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Post by Northville Blue on Jun 6, 2014 21:56:07 GMT
One day there will be honesty.
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Post by LPGas on Jun 6, 2014 21:58:12 GMT
f**k me what a load of old women on here. So it will be the year after, so what? Blame Trash and knobhead photographer but they have done what they intended, and I expect they intend to do more. Ever thought that if you build something slower you don't have so many errors? I blame all your parents for turning you in to the "we want it" and "we want it now" generation. I have been waiting for 40 years
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Post by onedaytheuwe on Jun 6, 2014 22:11:08 GMT
Fine LP but dont start screaming when crowds drop to 3-4000 and fans get disillusioned. You can:t have it both ways in life. You make promises people judge you on your promises. Or are we saying if someone promises something we dont hold them to account ? To want now now is shallow I agree but so is not to be accountable for our statements. Both should be challenged ..
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Post by empirebaypete on Jun 6, 2014 22:15:10 GMT
Goodness knows how long I've been waiting for a new stadium too. The club have had loads of hurdles put in their way. Trash / Carstairs etc. With the English Heritage thing & the photographer recently it was obvious there would be delays. When they built a new stadium where I live they quoted so many weeks. Because of the weather and a builders f**k up it took nearly twice as long. If, if Rovers are still in the conference next season and they start the season at the Mem, don't for one minute think that the Conference won't let the Rovers change grounds part way through the season. It would get massive media coverage. The sponsor of the Conference would be getting extra advertising. I would imagine that if Rovers getting back into League two, a deal will be done whereby they get to move to a new ground mid season. The ground will go ahead.
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Post by thecyclist on Jun 6, 2014 22:21:40 GMT
Yet another shambles brought to Bristol Rovers supporters by the worst custodians of the club by a country mile.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 6, 2014 22:25:02 GMT
Not delayed by us!!! The delay was out of our hands. Let's all have a go at the board for something trash have caused. Still trying to start the work, just won't be ready for the start of 2015/16 now.
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Post by thecyclist on Jun 6, 2014 22:35:09 GMT
Not delayed by us!!! The delay was out of our hands. Let's all have a go at the board for something trash have caused. Still trying to start the work, just won't be ready for the start of 2015/16 now. Well if you are happy to swallow everything that you are fed then good on you. Just examine the recent history of this club and where it has landed, it is no co-incidence is it? Who is responsible?
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Post by Brockworth Gas on Jun 6, 2014 22:55:13 GMT
Liverpool have had a great season and will no doubt get planning for their 58000 capacity new Anfield .... Why don't we throw in the towel and support them instead? The bleating on this and all forums related to the Gas is tedious. Clearly we aren't in this for the glory so why not just chill out. It is quite frankly what it is.......
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Post by EXETER GAS on Jun 7, 2014 4:49:17 GMT
another delay dident see that one coming NOT
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Post by Peter Parker on Jun 7, 2014 6:47:31 GMT
Not delayed by us!!! The delay was out of our hands. Let's all have a go at the board for something trash have caused. Still trying to start the work, just won't be ready for the start of 2015/16 now. I think we all know and can appreciate it wont be ready for the start of 15/16; but how have we gone from finalising pre commencement stuff to aiming to start this year in the space of a day. As i said ealier communication and delivering a message is about confidence and beleiving in what you are saying even if the message is not always what people want to hear. Does anyone get any confidence from any messages at BRFC
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 7:18:50 GMT
Not delayed by us!!! The delay was out of our hands. Let's all have a go at the board for something trash have caused. Still trying to start the work, just won't be ready for the start of 2015/16 now. I thonk we all knee and can appreciate it wont be ready for the start of 15/16; but how have we gone from finalising pre commencement stuff to aiming to start this year in the space of a day. As i said ealier communication and delivering a message is about confidence and beleiving in what you are saying even if the message is not always what people want to hear. Doea anyone get any confidence from any messages at BRFC Exactly. Its not the delay as such, its the awful communication, the sense that there is another truth, somewhere. As Northville says, the truth will out, one day.
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 7, 2014 7:27:30 GMT
My only issues is the info is so vague. If there was no problem or risk to the project he would have just said we have a delay because .... we are likely to start...
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Post by dmacca65 on Jun 7, 2014 7:49:30 GMT
Lets face it we have had so many false dawns where new stadiums are concerned, I would be happy to get one before I am too old to care!
I have never had too much faith that the UWE would come to fruition, its all to good to be true.
What I would suggest though is that rather than channel more frustration at the board or any other person involved with the club, perhaps we should start coming together to play Radish, her trash counterparts and this Carstairs guy at their own game, between them they have caused the club inconvenience, increased our debt and may have put the preverbal spanner in the works, perhaps we should be looking at ways to disrupt their lives, if you dig deep enough there is always a skeleton to be found in the cupboard!
Maybe some are actively looking at this already?
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Post by alasitsgas on Jun 7, 2014 8:21:34 GMT
Having problems posting so if this doubles up apologies Now there is a surprise and nothing to do with Rovers is ever straight forward. Could I believe it will ever be built YES
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jun 7, 2014 8:32:52 GMT
I'm gonna stick up for Nick on this one. The timetable that most of us seem to be working to is based on the outcome of the JR. With Carstairs intervention still not definitively resolved, it is inevitable that further delay is caused. It does not seem as though the time is being wasted. Quite the opposite, the effort is being put into dealing with the pre-commencement conditions.etc.
40 years is a long wait, but a few more weeks is frustrating. My optimistic view is that we are in the dark before the dawn and things will get a lot better when digging starts and steelwork is constructed.
However, I do have a problem. I've been involved in managing large projects and they can become all consuming. Despite assurances, I am convinced that the stadium project and the legal wranglings have been and continue to be a major distraction to the on the field matters. If Nick Higgs can deliver the stadium, he'll be amongst the greats of this club, but IMO he should concentrate on the stadium build and appoint someone with experience to deal with all other club matters.
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Post by gas2 on Jun 7, 2014 8:38:48 GMT
the longer it goes on the longer the bod will get abuse from the fans so mr higgs and the rest its time to put up or shut up as far as the stadium is concerned ?
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Post by Northville Blue on Jun 7, 2014 8:42:34 GMT
All that is needed is honesty and openness and we can all move on and support what we have.
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Post by Lazza on Jun 7, 2014 8:58:26 GMT
Lazza It about being fair and listening to the challenges aimed at us fans too by the board. So I have tried to be supportive and reflective in what NH says. But to say one week " Work will start in late may" or " We are building a team ready to start in our new ground in 2015" And then to say a few days later " We AIM to start work this year" only AIM to me is a shocker.. But I agree fully with you and Ilfracombe . I just dont know what will happen now... My post wasn't really about the UWE non announcement though, that I understand. It was any comms that comes from the club in general, we just cannot believe much of what they say period. Too many half truths and worse come from them. When somebody tells me something is it wrong for me to actually think they are or should be telling the truth? If time proves I cannot trust someone one bit because of continuous deceit and half truths why would anyone put ANY stock in a damn thing they say? It defies all logic to do such and that was what I was saying.
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Post by Lazza on Jun 7, 2014 9:00:50 GMT
All that is needed is honesty and openness and we can all move on and support what we have. You make it sound so simple Kevin, well it is isn't it? What you said is what everything comes down to with "them". That is all that is required. One can but dream.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jun 7, 2014 9:02:21 GMT
I'm gonna stick up for Nick on this one. The timetable that most of us seem to be working to is based on the outcome of the JR. With Carstairs intervention still not definitively resolved, it is inevitable that further delay is caused. It does not seem as though the time is being wasted. Quite the opposite, the effort is being put into dealing with the pre-commencement conditions.etc. 40 years is a long wait, but a few more weeks is frustrating. My optimistic view is that we are in the dark before the dawn and things will get a lot better when digging starts and steelwork is constructed. However, I do have a problem. I've been involved in managing large projects and they can become all consuming. Despite assurances, I am convinced that the stadium project and the legal wranglings have been and continue to be a major distraction to the on the field matters. If Nick Higgs can deliver the stadium, he'll be amongst the greats of this club, but IMO he should concentrate on the stadium build and appoint someone with experience to deal with all other club matters. It will be staryed before the end of the year would sound a million times better than aim to start. I am sure it shouldnt take 6 months to finish thos caratairs thing
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