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Post by Rex on May 10, 2020 15:33:32 GMT
Last question is a belter. Who is this? No clues at all in the picture I was thinking about saying which questions I got wrong, glad I didn't now
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Post by Rex on May 10, 2020 8:04:38 GMT
That would be interesting to see actually. I think our home crowd is pretty toxic. Without the added pressure of some bonehead hurling abuse from the crowd after the first pass of the game goes astray, it could well work in our favour. Our last away game at Southend suggests otherwise? Our away form under BG has been totally shocking, possibly the worse in the EFL? Our home AND away form under him has been shocking!
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Post by Rex on May 10, 2020 7:43:10 GMT
If all the games are played behind closed doors then it doesn't really matter if we play local teams or distant teams, they'll be still no fans or atmosphere at the Mem or any away grounds. Unless BG works some magic in the summer you do wonder how we'll fare with no fans given how bad we've been for 20 games under BG with fans! That would be interesting to see actually. I think our home crowd is pretty toxic. Without the added pressure of some bonehead hurling abuse from the crowd after the first pass of the game goes astray, it could well work in our favour.
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Post by Rex on May 10, 2020 7:33:30 GMT
12, relegation looms, unless we can get the quiz null and voided.
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Post by Rex on May 8, 2020 15:07:55 GMT
I've no problems with your alcohol consumption or non consumption, but to an outsider you seem to highlight every problem out of proportion or context. Much like, the loudest complainers of smokers are ex smokers. I've got no issues either way. I'm just saying for the amount of pubs that are open pre Covid and the amount of alcohol drunk, by the amount of people that consume, proportionately the social problems are small. Your posts appear to highlight alcohol in a very negative way. I'm offering some balance. Here's some balance; Alcohol plays a large part in development of Type 2 diabetes, that swallows up fully 10% of the entire NHS budget. Around 230 people a year die on UK roads and around 9000 are injured where a driver was found to be over the alcohol limit. Try explaining your 'balance' to someone who has lost a loved one because a drunk has got behind the wheel and killed them. Then we move on to domestic abuse; We've already covered the crazy 'free for all punch up' that City centres have become, that's largely Policed by the way by Officers on overtime rates of pay. You may be happy to pay for that, there are other things I would rather those officers were doing. I have more, lots more. So here's the thing. If you want to go and dig a hole, sit in it and quietly drink yourself to death, go ahead, but I don't want the selfish behaviour of others to increase the tax that I have to pay, to make me stepping out of my front door more dangerous, or to swallow up precious NHS resources that I may depend on in later life. Do you think we should ban alchohol?
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Post by Rex on May 8, 2020 13:09:45 GMT
Fair point Rex! I was just having a bit of a poke at a "Guardian reader" for a bit of banter... So on VE Day, here's another ramble. English people are generally quite proud of the country of their birth. Most nationalities are. I think the Leave campaign tapped into this. It particularly resonates with the older generation - as was born out in the demographic of the referendum result. 1. One could argue the older you are, the wiser you are. (Just kidding, no need to answer that). 2. The older generation identify much more with being English. The younger generation appear to be happy to identify with being European. The older generation are closer to WWII. Our parents and grandparents lived through it. What did you do when you played out as a kid? "Let's play war. England vs Germany". Alternatively cowboys and indians (Sorry cowboys vs indiginous native Americans). We also have (perhaps a rose-tinted) perception of the UK and it's former empire, when we really were a global super-power. It only takes Captain Tom talking, Darkest Hour, or even a Dame Vera Lynne documentary and I get all nostalgic and very very "English". Stiff upper lip and all that. Told you it was a bit of a ramble. Just trying to explain what it means to me to be English. On VE Day. Eisern Union and Up The Gas. OK, now you've fessed up I'll have a nibble... I was originally responding to the 'firm handshake and stiff upper lip at the Civil Service Club' comment by referring to the 'spirit of Empire' as being one of oppression of other nations via repressed civil servants who were brought up in boarding schools as preparation for 'service' across the Empire. The sort of culture that meant that a chap should keep his tunic on in the heat of the desert. See the film White Mischief as a point of reference maybe. Just one of the results being a lot of emotional retardation in the service of 'the country' Since then we've 'progressed', in gazillions of ways. This is why Dr Faustus gets all publicly gooey at the thought of hugging his family, I think The upsides of the old world view seem to me to be a spirit of adventure, a prioritisation of 'public service' (which is not a phrase which is common amongst da yoof, I think), and (among the best people from those times) aligning personal with public responsibility I see a lot of the latter still in daily life, especially at the moment, although funnily enough not so much of it on social media, and I don't think it's at all incompatible with modern life But then, I think the Mash Report has some laugh-out-loud moments every episode. And I identify primarily as British, rather than English. And I wouldn't dream of identifying myself as something like 'eppinggas' - that would just highlight the caravan in which I was currently staying, rather than identifying something meaningful about myself (says he who uses 'a more piratey game', thus undermining that line entirely - arrgghhh!!!!) Although she didn't feature in the film (though she did in other dramatizations) my mum's closest friend was a consultant on that film. She was Juanita Carberry (who one of my sisters is named after) the - later disowned- daughter of Lord Carberry. I knew her as 'Auntie' and she maintained to her dying day that Sir 'Jock' Broughton had confessed to her that he murdered the Earl of Errol. I know she wasn't impressed with the film, but it was a fascinating story and just goes to show your 'class' really means nothing when it comes down to human nature, most of that lot would have kept Jeremy Kyle employed for years! Bet you never knew I was so well connected
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Post by Rex on May 8, 2020 12:51:41 GMT
I think you may possibly have read too much into that one Fair point Rex! I was just having a bit of a poke at a "Guardian reader" for a bit of banter... So on VE Day, here's another ramble. English people are generally quite proud of the country of their birth. Most nationalities are. I think the Leave campaign tapped into this. It particularly resonates with the older generation - as was born out in the demographic of the referendum result. 1. One could argue the older you are, the wiser you are. (Just kidding, no need to answer that). 2 . The older generation identify much more with being English. The younger generation appear to be happy to identify with being European. The older generation are closer to WWII. Our parents and grandparents lived through it. What did you do when you played out as a kid? "Let's play war. England vs Germany". Alternatively cowboys and indians (Sorry cowboys vs indiginous native Americans). We also have (perhaps a rose-tinted) perception of the UK and it's former empire, when we really were a global super-power. It only takes Captain Tom talking, Darkest Hour, or even a Dame Vera Lynne documentary and I get all nostalgic and very very "English". Stiff upper lip and all that. Told you it was a bit of a ramble. Just trying to explain what it means to me to be English. On VE Day. Eisern Union and Up The Gas. I think our generation (I'm 55 ) seem to have the touch of Little Englander about them, I don't see anything wrong with being a bit patriotic, it's the 'I'm English and I don't care who it offends' brigade whose attitude I feel a bit puzzling. My dad would be 100 years old now and served throughout the war and my mum who is still going along at 90 not out was in the WAAF and navy, mum used to tell me patriotism was drummed into her as a youngster (Hardly surprising given she was a schoolgirl for much of the war) but they say travel broadens the mind, and maybe it was her experiences travelling in the forces that made her realise people throughout the world are pretty much the same. Dad was an old cynic who was very suspicious of over the top patriots (that bloke who used to be at all the England games used to annoy the f**k out of him) I'm very glad that my parents generation- against all the odds- saw off the Nazis, although I do find the current obsession of all thing military and the insistence of marking every anniversary of every battle with some kind of TV spectacular a little bewildering, I much preferred wearing a poppy once a year for a week, falling silent for a minute and then getting back to our current lives. Having said that, I absolutely love films like 'In Which We Serve' but I do recognise them for the propaganda that they are rather than some well researched historical re-enactment. Anyway, enjoy VE Day, I might even raise a glass meself
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Post by Rex on May 7, 2020 10:10:29 GMT
1.villa 2 a field 3. Eastville when crowds were there 4. Highbury 5 Millwall original den Never really did many away games. Maybe 30-40 at most Any particular field?
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Post by Rex on May 6, 2020 12:46:28 GMT
I didn't really want to get bogged down in a racism row, those I were referring to are yer actual proper bigots who are racist whether they like to admit it or not. I will give you the example of my friend who thinks 'Just because I don't like Pakis' doesn't make him a racist it's 'personal preference'. The type of person who without fail, every St Georges day, will post something on Facebook along the lines of being proud to be English and doesn't care who it offends, despite the fact that no one is or ever has been offended by this Fair enough, but again, it's not all one way traffic, people like Professor Kehinde Andrews are regularly given airtime and he certainly does a decent impersonation of an anti-white, anti-British racist. He's the type of person offended by a Union Flag, or St George's Cross, and he's given plenty of opportunity to spread his message of hate. Idiots like Thornburry aren't sure what they'll get dragged over the coals for saying, know they ought to say something, so just give it a go, and normally get it wrong. I'm afraid I don't know either of the people you mention, but I take your point. It's sad that social media lends itself to extreme views and gives the impression that the entire country has polarised views, when I suspect there is still a majority in the middle who don't care what colour you are, don't care what religion you are and don't care that your great great great great great grandfather once had something to do with the slave trade.
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Post by Rex on May 6, 2020 11:56:52 GMT
That is awful. I voted remain but have often been sceptical about the EU and I just couldn't see any benefit whatsoever of leaving when we did and whenever I asked 'Oldies question' nobody could give me a sensible answer. I did watch a programme a couple of months back (might have been the Ed Balls one) I wish I could remember the exact details, but it did show some very poor rural Italian farmers who were absolutely fed by EU policy. Unfortunately I think the leave campaign did get railroaded by shysters and some blatant racism, which is a crying shame because there was a serious debate to be had. Before anyone jumps on my case about the racism accusation btw, I certainly don't mean all leavers are racist, that is clearly nonsense, but it is undeniable many (all?) racists thought 'Nows our time!' Hey, nothing lasts forever, don't feel too bad, but the bottom line is that the EU is a protectionist racket, and there's no such thing as an 'EU grant', that's money from you and me. I'll never be able to think beyond the EU being a conglomeration of predominantly white western European countries that place sanctions on trade against the rest of the world, so where's the racism here exactly? And as was pointed out a couple of weeks ago, it was impossible not to notice in the EU Parliament that the area with most faces that were not white was where Farage was sitting. Nasty institution with no respect for nation states and a loathing for democracy. We are well out of it. Don't try to rewrite history, remember the likes of Thornbury going around the country trying to make people feel ashamed for wanting to show pride and patriotism. Let's see her talk in those terms about someone whose skin isn't white, you know what that would be, don't you. So it looks like 'Remain' had their share of racists on board as well. I didn't really want to get bogged down in a racism row, those I were referring to are yer actual proper bigots who are racist whether they like to admit it or not. I will give you the example of my friend who thinks 'Just because I don't like Pakis' doesn't make him a racist it's 'personal preference'. The type of person who without fail, every St Georges day, will post something on Facebook along the lines of being proud to be English and doesn't care who it offends, despite the fact that no one is or ever has been offended by this
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Post by Rex on May 6, 2020 11:25:33 GMT
Almost as funny as the youtube video...Bristol City 89/90 Division 3 Runners Up😆😆👏👏 If we're doing happy stuff which will annoy any Sheds that happen to stray onto here, this one can get an airing as well There used to be a video on YouTube that started with Jeff Stelling's 'There's been a goal at the Memorial Stadium' followed by Dickie Davies describing the goal on a bouncing gantry. The only one I can find now just has the Jeff Stelling announcement, I would love to see the full clip again, can anyone help?
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Post by Rex on May 6, 2020 11:19:05 GMT
Is that personal experience Bambi? If so can you elaborate ? I'm genuinely interested btw if you care to share. When you write this stuff the conversation normally drifts off to talking about fishing rights etc, then it gets bogged down in EU procedure and whether we can (could) actually affect direction of travel of EU policy, then we end up quoting people who support our point of view. Then you get accused of cherry picking soundbites. Oldie has on multiple occasions challenged all comers to name just 1 EU policy that has directly adversely affected them. I have one, it was a pointless piece of legislation, I took part in the consultation process, but the decision was already made, we were signing up to it. I'll happily go over it by PM, because the explanation is too long winded for even me to post on here and explain why it was pointless for the UK to sign up to it and why it's benefited nobody but has hampered trade, guess what, from outside of the EU. Did it leave me destitute, no, I'm fine, but it was mighty frustrating seeing a viable business that employed about 20 people in Bristol being rendered unviable for no good reason.That is awful. I voted remain but have often been sceptical about the EU and I just couldn't see any benefit whatsoever of leaving when we did and whenever I asked 'Oldies question' nobody could give me a sensible answer. I did watch a programme a couple of months back (might have been the Ed Balls one) I wish I could remember the exact details, but it did show some very poor rural Italian farmers who were absolutely f**ked by EU policy. Unfortunately I think the leave campaign did get railroaded by shysters and some blatant racism, which is a crying shame because there was a serious debate to be had. Before anyone jumps on my case about the racism accusation btw, I certainly don't mean all leavers are racist, that is clearly nonsense, but it is undeniable many (all?) racists thought 'Nows our time!'
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Post by Rex on May 6, 2020 10:07:55 GMT
You seem to intimate that there is something wrong with the "spirit of the Empire"? I think it is very much alive and well. There seems to be a problem with people being proud of the country of their birth, somehow it's become politically incorrect. It is perfectly possible to be proud of your country and it's rich history, and to also embrace and welcome other cultures. This is something that the "Remain" camp could never quite work out. Patriotic but NOT racist? Surely not? On St George's Day I was putting up the bunting wearing a Union Berlin shirt. I don't see any conflict there. I respect Germans, lovely people (well obviously apart from the sun lounger behaviour). I think this "spirit of the Empire" goes some way to explaining the Brexit referendum result. And why people voted for something that almost certainly would have had a negative financial effect in the short term. Tell that to people who had their livelihoods or businesses destroyed by EU policies that they never voted for and their MEP was powerless to change.
When you have nothing and the landscape around you looks bleak, you may as well vote for change. Is that personal experience Bambi? If so can you elaborate ? I'm genuinely interested btw if you care to share.
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Post by Rex on May 6, 2020 9:34:32 GMT
The spirit of the Empire is still alive and well, it seems. Well, alive at least You seem to intimate that there is something wrong with the "spirit of the Empire"? I think it is very much alive and well. There seems to be a problem with people being proud of the country of their birth, somehow it's become politically incorrect. It is perfectly possible to be proud of your country and it's rich history, and to also embrace and welcome other cultures. This is something that the "Remain" camp could never quite work out. Patriotic but NOT racist? Surely not? On St George's Day I was putting up the bunting wearing a Union Berlin shirt. I don't see any conflict there. I respect Germans, lovely people (well obviously apart from the sun lounger behaviour). I think this "spirit of the Empire" goes some way to explaining the Brexit referendum result. And why people voted for something that almost certainly would have had a negative financial effect in the short term. I think you may possibly have read too much into that one
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Post by Rex on May 5, 2020 12:22:27 GMT
We will have none of that namby pamby continental nonsense in the Civil Service club thank you. A firm handshake and a stiff upper lip will be the order of the day and asking what people 'did during the lockdown' will be frowned upon. The spirit of the Empire is still alive and well, it seems. Well, alive at leastI think I just may have watched 'In Which We Serve' a few too many times
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Post by Rex on May 5, 2020 11:04:38 GMT
Being able to hug my family and friends would mean more to me now than anything, but I'm a sentimental old sod. We will have none of that namby pamby continental nonsense in the Civil Service club thank you. A firm handshake and a stiff upper lip will be the order of the day and asking what people 'did during the lockdown' will be frowned upon.
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Post by Rex on May 3, 2020 17:46:03 GMT
3rd February 1990.
I refer you to the same source as the McDowell query.
Thank you
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Post by Rex on May 3, 2020 14:55:28 GMT
Does anyone know what the original date of the fixture was supposed to be?
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Post by Rex on May 3, 2020 7:02:21 GMT
I 'remember' John McDowell, the West Ham right back, signing for us as a player. However, Wikipedia says he joined as Assistant Manager in 1982 but not as a player.
Both me and Wikipedia often get things wrong, does anyone know which one of us is wrong this time?
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Post by Rex on Apr 30, 2020 11:50:13 GMT
Apparently it's Alex Rodman talking.
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