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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 3, 2015 9:54:25 GMT
Should I have felt offended when Michael Jackson went white then ? No racism is a one way street. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 3, 2015 9:21:03 GMT
I'd guess it would be the home team that would have the objection as they don't seem to get anything out of the deal. I suppose so. Cambridge agreed, as did Hartlepool previously and there are plenty of examples elsewhere in the league. I also assume there is a fee involved, so all would not be lost to the home club. It would definitely make sense if the away allocation was sold out. Something we were quite used to last season. Don't know how much of the rumoured £1500 Cambridge got but even if they got the whole lot that only represents 100 fans at £15 (I'm guessing actually it was more £15 a ticket). So not many fans before the home club start to lose out. Your second point makes complete sense if there was a limited away allocation, it seems a lot of time you get given say 800 you sell those and the home club whistles up some more ad they are obviously selling well. The third factor is if we do it then we'd have to reciprocate and lose out on away fans. Having said that it was a great night on Friday |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 2, 2015 18:21:10 GMT
I wasn't at the game or the beam back, but impressive numbers of gasheads were at both. 562 at the Abbey Stadium is remarkable for a Friday night game and 700 or so at the Mem suggests a new revenue stream for the club moving forward: www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/article/a-thank-you-to-all-that-attended-2780115.aspxSo it does beg a few questions: Which future game or games would you want as "beambacks"? Does the team lose out by having less support in the stands? Or does the club benefit more by having the extra income from tickets and bar sales? What restrictions are there on future events of this kind? (Licence etc.) I'd guess it would be the home team that would have the objection as they don't seem to get anything out of the deal. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 2, 2015 14:27:43 GMT
Not sure. According to Cambridge United they wanted to move the game back to 2pm on the Saturday but Rovers asked if they'd have it on Friday night instead. Slightly strange - was it a case of spotting an opportunity? I'd like to know what the rules are on 'beamback' because I have seen it done on a Saturday afternoons so presumably you can get special permission of some kind but I'm assuming there must be some kind of catch or clubs would do it all the time. If the commentary was in Albanian it wasn't officially done |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 2, 2015 10:05:01 GMT
I don't think you've seen through anything. You've just seen what you want to see and decided that you're right. Did you really post this at 3.36pm yesterday? I'm sure the beer was well and truly flowing by then! Who knows but I was in a very long queue for the toilets about then, where's a train when you need it |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 1, 2015 12:51:17 GMT
As you've started it, exctly what cost our they picking up? I'm sure they aren't just making things? Sorry, you've lost me. Well that isn't hard is it |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 1, 2015 11:12:34 GMT
I agree, a very simple yet extremely informative website. What I also like is the commitment to adhering to their well documented 'fans values'. They have been forced not to apply those values by those with the power money. An example of this is the forced imposition of the minimum £10 entrance fee when the usual cost is £9. In a wonderful example of "putting your money where your mouth is", this is their response: FC United’s usual price is £9. If the minimum adult price of £10 is applied, FC United will be issuing a £1 voucher to all adult ticket holders that they can spend on food and drink or merchandise at the ground. This offer will be extended to away supporters. FC United will pick up this cost and this will not affect the division of gate receipts with Chesterfield FC. Link HereHow superbly refreshing in a game so perversely dominated by money. Along pops CountyGroundGas to point out that the evil profiteers at FCUM will still make money on the markup between cost price and retail price on the food and drink... As you've started it, exctly what cost our they picking up? I'm sure they aren't just making things? |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 31, 2015 15:36:40 GMT
So they didn't realise this eventuality could have occurred? Whatever your views are on 3pm Saturday kick offs the FA have never hidden the fact that ties will be moved to suit broadcasters. It's a bit rich to enter a competition and then complain about the rules. Sorry it may offend some but they as a club have actually done nothing that has effected the outcome and will happily cash the cheque that they receive. Said weeks ago they might refuse to cooperate when there was no money involved but when money was involved they'd play ball. No amount of hot air or votes at an AGM after the event changes that. I agree with you about they knew the rules beofre entering the competition but I don't think you can claim they've changed their stance because of the money, they are a cash rich club and don't need it and are already considering how that money can be used within their community programme and not for their football club. They've even found a way around having to charge more for the game than they want to by issuing a voucher to fans both home and away to use to buy refreshments with. I think they've done as much as they can to remain within their principles based on what they are able to do, they've clearly made their views known, good for them, lets not try and sully what they have done by claiming they've been turned by the money as that is clearly not the case. In every business there is one pot of money how you spend it is up to those in charge, those on charge have decided to spend it on the community issue. Did they have a vote on that? I bet not same old hot air but some people like this hot air because they brought the publicity. Sorry if I've seen through it |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 30, 2015 19:40:22 GMT
Cracking effort all 18 boxes full
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 30, 2015 17:20:19 GMT
Personally couldn't care whether EB wants to put the record straight or whether you believe it or not. You usually believe whatever you want regardless of the facts anyway. Well, you care enough to have a little dig don't you. Someone a little less gracious could accuse you of hypocrisy, you start by saying that you don't care if the person stood acussed wants to put the record straight, then criticise me for forming opinions without consideration of all of the facts. As we stand, so many people have waded in and backed up what Irish said that I'm more than happy to concede the point and stand corrected. Yawn |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 30, 2015 16:00:39 GMT
So yep talking about the fans but just carrying on and taking the money. Amazing what football fans will believe and accept. Perhaps before entering the FA Cup they should have looked at the rules and the rights of the broadcasters to Change kick offs. If you don't like the rules don't enter. Except that it doesn't work like that because it is ultimately fans making the decisions on a democratic basis rather than having a solution/decision imposed on them by a board of directors over which they have no practical influence. So if the FC United fans chose to object to this then they could in a number of different ways. As this situation hasn't come up before for them I imagine it will probably result in the members of the club debating and voting on a policy regarding the clubs attitude to televised games at the next AGM because that is how they work. As a general rule one of the big factors in FC United's founding was the objection to TV companys moving games to unsociable times and the move away from 3PM Saturday Kick Off Times. This isn't about the money - it's about how far you are prepared to go to uphold a principle. It's not a case of all or nothing on this or about acting alone and I think there is a growing frustration generally (what's happened to Rovers is ridiculous and I can't imagine we're really getting very much money for that in any case); I imagine FC United see themselves as being around for a while and that this is likely to come up again so this is just an opening salvo that will allow them to figure out where their fans are at on this issue. Plus there is also Chesterfield to consider in this as well. I think you could reasonably argue that the FA Cup is a competition that is owned by its members (ie the clubs and regional associations) and therefore within reason it should take their perspectives and needs into consideration. In theory at least the FA Cup is not a commercial competition unlike the Football League, Premier League and League Cup so it's not just a case of 'you pays your money you takes your choice'; in the case of the FA Cup the members in theory have a say in the competitions procedures. They are stakeholders in it, not just competition entrants. So they didn't realise this eventuality could have occurred? Whatever your views are on 3pm Saturday kick offs the FA have never hidden the fact that ties will be moved to suit broadcasters. It's a bit rich to enter a competition and then complain about the rules. Sorry it may offend some but they as a club have actually done nothing that has effected the outcome and will happily cash the cheque that they receive. Said weeks ago they might refuse to cooperate when there was no money involved but when money was involved they'd play ball. No amount of hot air or votes at an AGM after the event changes that. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 30, 2015 15:52:38 GMT
Don't agree with many things you say angas but you are absolutely correct with that. In fact eclectic blue very arrogantly came on and told us all that the forum must close because it no longer served it's original purpose. Quite a laugh at the time No memory or this whatsoever. Maybe if Eclectic is still around he can put the record straight? Personally couldn't care whether EB wants to put the record straight or whether you believe it or not. You usually believe whatever you want regardless of the facts anyway. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 30, 2015 14:27:44 GMT
Eclectic Blue, for one. Often. Don't agree with many things you say angas but you are absolutely correct with that. In fact eclectic blue very arrogantly came on and told us all that the forum must close because it no longer served it's original purpose. Quite a laugh at the time |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 30, 2015 11:48:00 GMT
Sounds like your saying that FCManchester want to make the point to their fans that it isn't their idea but actually we're very happy taking the £65k. Did say the other week when they refused to participate in something the beeb wanted that they wouldn't refuse when £65k was on the table. Much the same as every other club in the country who spout hot air about bring there for the fans and then choose whatever option makes the most money. No I don't think that's true. They formally wrote to the FA requesting their desire to not have the game moved and lobbied them to that effect - they also proposed alternative times. They are also debating giving the money away at a board meeting I believe or at least not investing into the 1st team and facilities but into their community programme. But I don't think they were prepared to go as far as to risk being chucked out of the competition which is what they were risking. So yep talking about the fans but just carrying on and taking the money. Amazing what football fans will believe and accept. Perhaps before entering the FA Cup they should have looked at the rules and the rights of the broadcasters to Change kick offs. If you don't like the rules don't enter. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 30, 2015 9:52:01 GMT
I often read good stuff and have the odd laugh on here and the same on gaschat. Some of us post on both - it's not an exclusive club. I don't know why we have two forums (fora for you pedants) anyway since the Evil Ones shut down the OF. It's like arguing about the People's Front of Judea and the Judean People's Front. I suppose it serves a purpose for those who hate one forum or the other. You can always quit and join the other. And maybe do the opposite a few months later. It's so that we don't have people like ggmi / joebananas on here. Long mat GasChat survive. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 30, 2015 9:50:38 GMT
I think BTSport would have backed down. Be an interesting one wouldn't it. I just don't think FC United quite had the stomach for that particular fight at this stage - FA Cup 1st Round game is still a pretty big deal for them and probably not worth jeopardising relations over. I imagine they'll have a proper strategy in place for the next time this happens though. Sounds like your saying that FCManchester want to make the point to their fans that it isn't their idea but actually we're very happy taking the £65k. Did say the other week when they refused to participate in something the beeb wanted that they wouldn't refuse when £65k was on the table. Much the same as every other club in the country who spout hot air about bring there for the fans and then choose whatever option makes the most money. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 29, 2015 10:30:45 GMT
Whenever I've been given comps, its been in a home area. Some grounds its the directors box or nearby, and reasonably comfortable, and some put you right amongst the home fans. I've never been given away end comps, unfortunately. Although its been a very long time since I've asked for or been offered a comp. Ellis hasn't done anything wrong here. He fell victim to a (very basic) prank on Twitter, and the reaction has been well over the top. I'm still waiting to learn more about his attitude from fellow forumers though. Should be fascinating. In the good old days Ray Kendall would get all the players unused comp tickets at away games and then have a little wander round giving them to any Rovers fans he saw. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 27, 2015 14:14:41 GMT
It's even in the Evening Post, must be a quiet day in the press room. Disagree, it's obviously been a busy day in the press room as they frantically read forums hoping to find a story. It's a quiet day in the press room when they have to rely on their *cough* journalistic skills to dig up a news story |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 24, 2015 11:14:37 GMT
So why did they suggest they were banned from posting on the old OF if that wasn't the case? That's not quite the same as being banned from the club now, is it? Don't confuse toppergas |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 23, 2015 18:08:59 GMT
I didn't either. Can you confirm that is correct? Amazing the board do some many bad things that they should rightly get stick for & Toppergas is the second person in the last few days to make things up to criticise them about. Amazing |
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