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Post by The Concept on May 1, 2021 18:56:23 GMT
It was announced back on 13th April that Mark Ashton is leaving City to be CEO at Ipswich Town. I think there may be other staff following him.
It seems a fair few City fans haven't been happy with him as CEO for a while I'm sure he's had the distinction of having his name scrawled in red paint, before the word 'out', on a few bedsheets hung around BS3.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 19:06:21 GMT
It was announced back on 13th April that Mark Ashton is leaving City to be CEO at Ipswich Town. I think there may be other staff following him. It seems a fair few City fans weren't haven't been happy with him as CEO for a while I'm sure he's had the distinction of having his name scrawled in red paint, before the word 'out', on a few bedsheets hung around BS3.
Indeed, they aint happy over there
New manager, 10 games without a win, potential structural changes, fans in meltdown, losing millions every year
The love in that some people on this forum have with Landown is bigger than that of many City fans, its bizarre
Lansdown has secured legal charges over Ashton Gate regularly over the years too, which some people on here conveniently forget in their anti Wael rants
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 22:01:16 GMT
It was announced back on 13th April that Mark Ashton is leaving City to be CEO at Ipswich Town. I think there may be other staff following him. It seems a fair few City fans weren't haven't been happy with him as CEO for a while I'm sure he's had the distinction of having his name scrawled in red paint, before the word 'out', on a few bedsheets hung around BS3.
Indeed, they aint happy over there
New manager, 10 games without a win, potential structural changes, fans in meltdown, losing millions every year
The love in that some people on this forum have with Landown is bigger than that of many City fans, its bizarre
Lansdown has secured legal charges over Ashton Gate regularly over the years too, which some people on here conveniently forget in their anti Wael rants
Spot on.
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 2, 2021 6:50:57 GMT
It was announced back on 13th April that Mark Ashton is leaving City to be CEO at Ipswich Town. I think there may be other staff following him. It seems a fair few City fans weren't haven't been happy with him as CEO for a while I'm sure he's had the distinction of having his name scrawled in red paint, before the word 'out', on a few bedsheets hung around BS3.
Indeed, they aint happy over there
New manager, 10 games without a win, potential structural changes, fans in meltdown, losing millions every year
The love in that some people on this forum have with Landown is bigger than that of many City fans, its bizarre
Lansdown has secured legal charges over Ashton Gate regularly over the years too, which some people on here conveniently forget in their anti Wael rants
He has provided a prem ready stadium and has/is providing top class academy facility as well as spending millions on the club where Wael has promised but keeps failing , at the last hurdle
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Post by eppinggas on May 2, 2021 9:07:14 GMT
Indeed, they aint happy over there New manager, 10 games without a win, potential structural changes, fans in meltdown, losing millions every year
The love in that some people on this forum have with Landown is bigger than that of many City fans, its bizarre
Lansdown has secured legal charges over Ashton Gate regularly over the years too, which some people on here conveniently forget in their anti Wael rants
He has provided a prem ready stadium and has/is providing top class academy facility as well as spending millions on the club where Wael has promised but keeps failing , at the last hurdle Got to disagree with you there KP. Wael Al-Qadi fell at the first hurdle (UWE) and never recovered.
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Post by toteend3 on May 2, 2021 9:54:08 GMT
It was announced back on 13th April that Mark Ashton is leaving City to be CEO at Ipswich Town. I think there may be other staff following him. It seems a fair few City fans weren't haven't been happy with him as CEO for a while I'm sure he's had the distinction of having his name scrawled in red paint, before the word 'out', on a few bedsheets hung around BS3.
Indeed, they aint happy over there
New manager, 10 games without a win, potential structural changes, fans in meltdown, losing millions every year
The love in that some people on this forum have with Landown is bigger than that of many City fans, its bizarre
Lansdown has secured legal charges over Ashton Gate regularly over the years too, which some people on here conveniently forget in their anti Wael rants
Affirmative, even tho ladygarden has spent countless millions funding his legacy for ''Bristol Sport' it falls flat when it comes down to the football side of matters. Now i don't know many 's**teheads' but the ones that i have had some recent intercourse with, are all to a man, bitter and frustrated and their view is after all these years of 'huff and puff that, going forward, relegation is still the more likely outcome than promotion. So much so that the usual ridcule we would expect to get was barely a whisper about our relegation which says it all. Anyway, i had, up to a few weeks ago watched every game this season but after to many Bristol Rovers Nil score lines and some woeful team performances i decided to put my tenners towards renewing my season ticket. Obviously, provied we bring in a striker and our wee fans are able to support the Gas live, then with positive vocal support we could bounce back. Whereas the s**te fans, hard to believe i know are even more 'fickle' than ours, so if early results are poor they will come down hard on their team and they may well accomplish their worst fears and join us in League 1 the following season. We can but dream UTG
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 10:11:43 GMT
Indeed, they aint happy over there
New manager, 10 games without a win, potential structural changes, fans in meltdown, losing millions every year
The love in that some people on this forum have with Landown is bigger than that of many City fans, its bizarre
Lansdown has secured legal charges over Ashton Gate regularly over the years too, which some people on here conveniently forget in their anti Wael rants
He has provided a prem ready stadium and has/is providing top class academy facility as well as spending millions on the club where Wael has promised but keeps failing , at the last hurdle
KP, you have been arguing against the need for BRFC to invest in a Training Ground which will house the Academy.
Its not a very coherent argument you are putting forward as from the above it seems to me WAQ has taken the same approach and done the same other than come up with the stadium
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 2, 2021 13:15:33 GMT
He has provided a prem ready stadium and has/is providing top class academy facility as well as spending millions on the club where Wael has promised but keeps failing , at the last hurdle Got to disagree with you there KP. Wael Al-Qadi fell at the first hurdle (UWE) and never recovered. You are right mate. Once again, I can’t help but wonder why plans come to nought. I’ve a fair idea but, as always, I could be wrong To paraphrase The pink Floyd , hanging on in quiet desperation, it’s the English way
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 13:58:34 GMT
It was announced back on 13th April that Mark Ashton is leaving City to be CEO at Ipswich Town. I think there may be other staff following him. It seems a fair few City fans weren't haven't been happy with him as CEO for a while I'm sure he's had the distinction of having his name scrawled in red paint, before the word 'out', on a few bedsheets hung around BS3.
Indeed, they aint happy over there
New manager, 10 games without a win, potential structural changes, fans in meltdown, losing millions every year
The love in that some people on this forum have with Landown is bigger than that of many City fans, its bizarre
Lansdown has secured legal charges over Ashton Gate regularly over the years too, which some people on here conveniently forget in their anti Wael rants
Sorry, have missed Wael investing tens of millions in the club over a prolonged period, getting us challenging towards the top of the second tier regularly and having Stadium plan A fall out of bed so instantly moving on to plan B and getting a 'fit for purpose' stadium up and running. The other crucial difference is that we can see that Lansdown is in a position where losing £10m a year on 1982 is sustainable. If what Swiss has said about the performance of AJIB is correct, Wael is losing more with Rovers than he's earning, that's not sustainable. This is based on pre-pandemic losses. Does that not worry you at all?
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 2, 2021 14:38:02 GMT
He has provided a prem ready stadium and has/is providing top class academy facility as well as spending millions on the club where Wael has promised but keeps failing , at the last hurdle
KP, you have been arguing against the need for BRFC to invest in a Training Ground which will house the Academy.
Its not a very coherent argument you are putting forward as from the above it seems to me WAQ has taken the same approach and done the same other than come up with the stadium
Once again you are misrepresenting me. I have never said we don’t need one, never ever. What I have seen and heard, are unfulfilled promises As for us attaining academy status, I will believe it when I can see it.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 14:48:05 GMT
Indeed, they aint happy over there
New manager, 10 games without a win, potential structural changes, fans in meltdown, losing millions every year
The love in that some people on this forum have with Landown is bigger than that of many City fans, its bizarre
Lansdown has secured legal charges over Ashton Gate regularly over the years too, which some people on here conveniently forget in their anti Wael rants
Sorry, have missed Wael investing tens of millions in the club over a prolonged period, getting us challenging towards the top of the second tier regularly and having Stadium plan A fall out of bed so instantly moving on to plan B and getting a 'fit for purpose' stadium up and running. The other crucial difference is that we can see that Lansdown is in a position where losing £10m a year on 1982 is sustainable. If what Swiss has said about the performance of AJIB is correct, Wael is losing more with Rovers than he's earning, that's not sustainable. This is based on pre-pandemic losses. Does that not worry you at all? No it doesn't.
From what I could tell, AJIB performance has been OK. Operating profit last year was up something like 18% I believe, and all looked pretty rosey even with the temp measures due to Covid. There were no red flags in their annual report from what I could see when I looked.
Has anyone bothered to challenge Swiss' 'speculation' I wonder?
My previous post was not trying to directly compare Lansdwon v WAQ, merely point out the standard buisness practices
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 15:21:41 GMT
Sorry, have missed Wael investing tens of millions in the club over a prolonged period, getting us challenging towards the top of the second tier regularly and having Stadium plan A fall out of bed so instantly moving on to plan B and getting a 'fit for purpose' stadium up and running. The other crucial difference is that we can see that Lansdown is in a position where losing £10m a year on 1982 is sustainable. If what Swiss has said about the performance of AJIB is correct, Wael is losing more with Rovers than he's earning, that's not sustainable. This is based on pre-pandemic losses. Does that not worry you at all? No it doesn't.
From what I could tell, AJIB performance has been OK. Operating profit last year was up something like 18% I believe, and all looked pretty rosey even with the temp measures due to Covid. There were no red flags in their annual report from what I could see when I looked.
Has anyone bothered to challenge Swiss' 'speculation' I wonder?
My previous post was not trying to directly compare Lansdwon v WAQ, merely point out the standard buisness practices
Swiss has indicated something quite different for AJIB, I'm sure he'll be along to put some figures to it all presently, and what it could mean to Wael in terms of income. Well, I am making a direct comparison between one owner and the other, and pointing out to you why one is cut some slack and the other isn't. Let's start with the stadium situation. 1982's stadium plans fell out of bed due to interfering locals and something to do with village green status. How did Lansdown react? He instantly wheeled out Plan B, and put it straight into action and got their existing site sorted. Is it ideal? Nope, but will it do a job should they get promoted, and does it offer genuine opportunities for additional revenue streams? Yes, it certainly does. Meanwhile, in BS7 we have another hired tent. You continue to support failure and, at best, mediocrity, and that's exactly what you'll be served up. L2 here we come!
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 15:29:06 GMT
KP, you have been arguing against the need for BRFC to invest in a Training Ground which will house the Academy.
Its not a very coherent argument you are putting forward as from the above it seems to me WAQ has taken the same approach and done the same other than come up with the stadium
Once again you are misrepresenting me. I have never said we don’t need one, never ever. What I have seen and heard, are unfulfilled promises As for us attaining academy status, I will believe it when I can see it. Ok. You made it clear you thought providing a Training ground for BRFC was a distraction and that it was better to concentrate on the team, before priaisng Lansdown for providing a Training ground. My mistake, apologies.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 15:34:17 GMT
No it doesn't.
From what I could tell, AJIB performance has been OK. Operating profit last year was up something like 18% I believe, and all looked pretty rosey even with the temp measures due to Covid. There were no red flags in their annual report from what I could see when I looked.
Has anyone bothered to challenge Swiss' 'speculation' I wonder?
My previous post was not trying to directly compare Lansdwon v WAQ, merely point out the standard buisness practices
Swiss has indicated something quite different for AJIB, I'm sure he'll be along to put some figures to it all presently, and what it could mean to Wael in terms of income.Well, I am making a direct comparison between one owner and the other, and pointing out to you why one is cut some slack and the other isn't. Let's start with the stadium situation. 1982's stadium plans fell out of bed due to interfering locals and something to do with village green status. How did Lansdown react? He instantly wheeled out Plan B, and put it straight into action and got their existing site sorted. Is it ideal? Nope, but will it do a job should they get promoted, and does it offer genuine opportunities for additional revenue streams? Yes, it certainly does. Meanwhile, in BS7 we have another hired tent. You continue to support failure and, at best, mediocrity, and that's exactly what you'll be served up. L2 here we come!
You could check yourself. Just a thought
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Post by swissgas on May 2, 2021 15:37:19 GMT
Sorry, have missed Wael investing tens of millions in the club over a prolonged period, getting us challenging towards the top of the second tier regularly and having Stadium plan A fall out of bed so instantly moving on to plan B and getting a 'fit for purpose' stadium up and running. The other crucial difference is that we can see that Lansdown is in a position where losing £10m a year on 1982 is sustainable. If what Swiss has said about the performance of AJIB is correct, Wael is losing more with Rovers than he's earning, that's not sustainable. This is based on pre-pandemic losses. Does that not worry you at all? No it doesn't.
From what I could tell, AJIB performance has been OK. Operating profit last year was up something like 18% I believe, and all looked pretty rosey even with the temp measures due to Covid. There were no red flags in their annual report from what I could see when I looked.
Has anyone bothered to challenge Swiss' 'speculation' I wonder?
My previous post was not trying to directly compare Lansdwon v WAQ, merely point out the standard buisness practices
You didn’t look closely enough at the AJIB annual report then. On page 203 you would have found : Profit for the year 2020. JD. 11,536 703 Profit for the year 2019. JD. 16,203 239 Wael should have told you that the increase in profits relates to the first quarter of 2021 but I make it 14% not 18%. When Dwane Sports took over in 2016 the AJIB was making profits of JD 22 million and its share price was near JD 2.00. Now the profits have halved and the share price dropped to JD 1.13. The entire Al-Qadi family holding is about 26% so their income from this source is about JD 3 million which is much less than Rovers lose every year. What is the point of misrepresenting the situation ? Do you think it helps Wael or Rovers to do so ?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 15:42:42 GMT
Swiss has indicated something quite different for AJIB, I'm sure he'll be along to put some figures to it all presently, and what it could mean to Wael in terms of income.Well, I am making a direct comparison between one owner and the other, and pointing out to you why one is cut some slack and the other isn't. Let's start with the stadium situation. 1982's stadium plans fell out of bed due to interfering locals and something to do with village green status. How did Lansdown react? He instantly wheeled out Plan B, and put it straight into action and got their existing site sorted. Is it ideal? Nope, but will it do a job should they get promoted, and does it offer genuine opportunities for additional revenue streams? Yes, it certainly does. Meanwhile, in BS7 we have another hired tent. You continue to support failure and, at best, mediocrity, and that's exactly what you'll be served up. L2 here we come!
You could check yourself. Just a thought
It's OK, I trust Swiss to be honest and accurate. Whoops, there you go, he's already replied. As someone who enjoys facts and not opinions it's going to be interesting hearing how you are going to find numbers amongst that which we can look at together and agree give Wael sufficient nett income to cover Rovers' losses, let alone invest in the club to move it forwards.
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Post by swissgas on May 2, 2021 15:49:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 15:50:55 GMT
Get out of here with your accurate facts and figures, let's all just close our eyes and hope for the best.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 16:15:21 GMT
No it doesn't.
From what I could tell, AJIB performance has been OK. Operating profit last year was up something like 18% I believe, and all looked pretty rosey even with the temp measures due to Covid. There were no red flags in their annual report from what I could see when I looked.
Has anyone bothered to challenge Swiss' 'speculation' I wonder?
My previous post was not trying to directly compare Lansdwon v WAQ, merely point out the standard buisness practices
You didn’t look closely enough at the AJIB annual report then. On page 203 you would have found : Profit for the year 2020. JD. 11,536 703 Profit for the year 2019. JD. 16,203 239 Wael should have told you that the increase in profits relates to the first quarter of 2021 but I make it 14% not 18%. When Dwane Sports took over in 2016 the AJIB was making profits of JD 22 million and its share price was near JD 2.00. Now the profits have halved and the share price dropped to JD 1.13. The entire Al-Qadi family holding is about 26% so their income from this source is about JD 3 million which is much less than Rovers lose every year. What is the point of misrepresenting the situation ? Do you think it helps Wael or Rovers to do so ? Just to save anybody else the trouble, have just checked the value of the JD against the GBP, right now 1 Jordanian Dinar is worth 1.02079 GBP. That means that AJIB posted profits for 2020 of £11,776,551. Swiss says that the family hold a 26% stake, that means that between them all they earned a total of £3,061,903.27. I'm guessing that's pre-tax?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 16:18:42 GMT
Thats the one. God knows what Swiss is doing on a page 203, the one signed of by the auditors had 128 pages. Feel free to challenge that one till your heart is content. Stands up well in a global pandemic as far as I can see. And as far as Wael financing the clubs annual losses going foward, are you aware of his or the family investments?
But will let the usual suspects 'speculate' as they like to do
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