crater
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Post by crater on Apr 10, 2021 16:47:00 GMT
Have to win the next 2 home games... even 4 points isn't enough
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 10, 2021 16:54:22 GMT
Um....oh dear.
A the opportunities to play to strength, out the window.
I think most would take the draw, as opposed to a loss....but with another Baldwin mistake immediately culpable, we missed the opportunities to play to our strengths.
I totally disagree with JAB Walker dropping for useless Ayunga, looked ponderous and struggled to cope with the physical side (as did Brandon). Why is no one questioning this post match?
Also, what was the idea of sub Hare on for Westy?
I thought poor sub choice from JAB, it appeared to not shore up their attacks, and what's the point in brilliant crossing that Hare can offer if there's not a decent end on it because of Northampton physical presence? I didn't see any threat from their left that needed shoring up...
Having said all that, I thought Westbrooke contributions were great, as was Harries.
Leahy m o m for me.... led the line, was great in defence and headed (eh, didn't know he could head!?) his own chance, took it well from a brilliant Westbrooke delivery...
Well done Jaaks coming out and claiming a few set pieces... including an interesting punch behind him!
Actually, I thought we defended well. I know, not brilliant, but well. We coped in pen area to block shots, get half clearance headers, break up their play and force players out wide. One crazy off moment led to the goal....but they missed, a complete miss shot, but we done ok at the back.
Well done Northampton....every challenge went down like a sack of sh*t.... gamesmanship helped them as did the ref (how many times was Hanlan manhandled but didn't roll round like a compound fracture of fibia?) whom bought everything they done.... what a load of Cobblers!
But did anyone expect anything less?
Another nail...5 to go.
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phil74
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Post by phil74 on Apr 10, 2021 16:59:13 GMT
I wonder what the reason is for not playing Oztumer & Westbrooke together? Is Oz still not fit for a full 90 mins? With Nicholson out for the season, Oz seems to me our most creative ballplayer. I'd rather we started with him and only 1 striker than the current set-up.
On paper, that would give us 5 in midfield without the ball; and much better options with it to thread a pass through to Hanlan (or whoever plays as the "lone" striker). We could use McCormick to run off and create space, allowing Oz or Westbrooke to play more simple balls through to the striker. Our current default mode of pumping long balls into channels is misleading: we accumulate shots without often testing the opposition keeper 1 on 1.
I'm thinking something broadly like this: (4-5-1) switching to more conventional 4-4-2 when chasing a game.
HANLAN or DALY or AYUNGA
WESTBROOKE OZTUMER McCORMICK (these 3 interchangable)
UPSON MARTINEZ (breaking up play in front of a back four)
LEAHY HARRIES BALDWIN WILLIAMS
All theoretical of course!
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darloGAS
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Post by darloGAS on Apr 10, 2021 17:22:00 GMT
When your leading goal scorer is the left-back... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#UTG
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 17:36:07 GMT
When your leading goal scorer is the left-back... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#UTGDave, if you're still here (good), who did I reply to on the 1884 thread? Confused of BS3. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 17:53:50 GMT
What concerned me about changing to 5-3-2 is that we were in control of the game with the previous system. We weren't leading against the run of play. Now, Northampton are suddenly all over us and we have limited creative options in midfield. Yes. Not just pointing out the mistakes Joey makes that costs us points, but pointing out the mistakes Joey makes to cost us points days before he makes them. Unlike BBC commentator, I think we did enough today for win, if it wasn’t for Barton’s mistakes. 5 back 2 up is not the way to get hold of ball, control closing stages for win, it’s the way to surrender ball to opponents to come at you and hurt you. You analyse how top managers see out this situation, they are not pulling bodies out midfield but adding bodies to midfield. Joey is revealing himself to be rank bad manager. Joey doesn't make mistakes. |
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Post by lostinspace on Apr 10, 2021 19:20:57 GMT
EFL HAS ANNOUNCED that next Saturdays games will be kicking off at a time yet to be confirmed, but will not be at 3:00 pm
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darloGAS
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Post by darloGAS on Apr 10, 2021 20:45:50 GMT
When your leading goal scorer is the left-back... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#UTGDave, if you're still here (good), who did I reply to on the 1884 thread? Confused of BS3. Me. Grant, that was last year. Swiss cheese, taking the pi$$ out of me (well my age).  On the sorry subject of goal scorers. When you've been weaned on a regular diet of these players, watching Hanlan and Ayunga is agonising. #UTGAttachments:
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Post by richmace on Apr 10, 2021 20:56:31 GMT
This season is so frustrating.
Once again we looked comfortable and looked like winning all day long. One lack of concentration and we concede a penalty.
Then we hit the bar and it bounces off their keeper and out to safety.
Another two points dropped. I'm starting to lose count of the points dropped since the turn of the year. We should be safe by now.
Putting the disappointment aside, I think we would all have taken four points over the last two games. The trouble is that we are going to need that kind of points ratio from the remaining five games.
All we can do is hope that Sunderland win on Tuesday night and we beat Lincoln on Saturday. We have to take it a game at a time and ride the rollercoaster.
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 11, 2021 6:47:53 GMT
2 points dropped definitely, but there are positives to take.
I would have taken that at the start. Especially given our recent record against the bottom 6.
It's our first point away under Barton.
Northampton were very crap, conned the ref for the whole game, apart from the pen.
We're still in with a shout, all the teams we still have to play struggled yesterday apart from Blackpool, some with nothing to play for. We can pick up 7 points from our home games.
Unfortunately though, this was one of our winnable games, so it feels like a defeat.
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Post by outwoodgas on Apr 11, 2021 7:23:20 GMT
Eureka! The pre-season strategy of signing up four left backs and not bothering about goal-scoring strikers has just hit me! The plan all along was for our left backs to be our most potent goal-scoring force and its worked! To think us fools have been bleating all season about not getting in an experienced striker. What do we know.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Apr 11, 2021 7:27:24 GMT
<that would give us 5 in midfield without the ball; and much better options with it to thread a pass through to Hanlan (or whoever plays as the "lone" striker). We could use McCormick to run off and create space, allowing Oz or Westbrooke to play more simple balls through to the striker.>
That would be admitting that Garner got it right in the first place but needed more time to perfect it.
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 11, 2021 9:24:53 GMT
I've just watched the highlights - their defending for our goal was abysmal. And it was our 2nd decent chance from a corner
I thought we had problems defending set pieces
Upson's effort which hit the bar was a good 'un
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 11, 2021 10:23:36 GMT
He would say that, wouldn't he?
Northampton manager thinks ref was poor for not giving them a second penalty!?
He gave them everything else when they went down like a sniper headshot...
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 11, 2021 11:04:53 GMT
We have nothing to complain about , on the pitch really. We could all see the great footballing architect had got it wrong and subsequently we have been 5hiT all season. To expect us to put a run of wins together is unrealistic and, for those who think Barton is going to get it right is silly. His set up and use of subs aka game management, is very poor.
I have reconciled to us going down but I am genuinely concerned that Barton will not do any better there.
Barton moans about refs in this league, he will have lots of them to rant at, next season.
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darloGAS
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Post by darloGAS on Apr 11, 2021 11:50:20 GMT
Dave, if you're still here (good), who did I reply to on the 1884 thread? Confused of BS3. Me. Grant, that was last year. Swiss cheese, taking the pi$$ out of me (well my age). On the sorry subject of goal scorers. When you've been weaned on a regular diet of these players, watching Hanlan and Ayunga is agonising. #UTG11 Apr 1959 Bristol Rovers 3 Liverpool 0 Peter Hooper(2), Dai Ward. #UTG |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 12:10:38 GMT
Me. Grant, that was last year. Swiss cheese, taking the pi$$ out of me (well my age). On the sorry subject of goal scorers. When you've been weaned on a regular diet of these players, watching Hanlan and Ayunga is agonising. #UTG11 Apr 1959 Bristol Rovers 3 Liverpool 0 Peter Hooper(2), Dai Ward. #UTGWith very few exceptions until now (maybe when Uncle Ray was here), we have a line of strikers who have scored regularly, been sold and replaced. Rinse and repeat. Then Clarke-Harris wasn't replaced and err...oops. |
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Post by axegas on Apr 11, 2021 13:53:35 GMT
Eureka! The pre-season strategy of signing up four left backs and not bothering about goal-scoring strikers has just hit me! The plan all along was for our left backs to be our most potent goal-scoring force and its worked! To think us fools have been bleating all season about not getting in an experienced striker. What do we know. The sad thing is we’ll probably lose more with the money that we got for JCH in the summer through relegation that followed, than if we had kept him and let him run down his contract. Seemed such a good thing to do at the time, but the reality is if you sell your single source of goals, you’ve got to reinvest and hedge your bets in strikers that have scored in league football before. Hanlan replaced Nichols role in the team, but we didn’t bring in anyone to replace JCH and that’s why we’ll be going down. |
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darloGAS
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Post by darloGAS on Apr 11, 2021 14:08:57 GMT
11 Apr 1959 Bristol Rovers 3 Liverpool 0 Peter Hooper(2), Dai Ward. #UTGWith very few exceptions until now (maybe when Uncle Ray was here), we have a line of strikers who have scored regularly, been sold and replaced. Rinse and repeat. Then Clarke-Harris wasn't replaced and err...oops. Beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Apr 12, 2021 19:38:25 GMT
We have nothing to complain about , on the pitch really. We could all see the great footballing architect had got it wrong and subsequently we have been 5hiT all season. To expect us to put a run of wins together is unrealistic and, for those who think Barton is going to get it right is silly. His set up and use of subs aka game management, is very poor. I have reconciled to us going down but I am genuinely concerned that Barton will not do any better there. Barton moans about refs in this league, he will have lots of them to rant at, next season. the longer someone is there, and their game management is always poor, the more evidence you have. Problem is, some gasheads so against Barton from the start, any sort of criticism of Joey from them heared with idea of bias. Theres enough evidence his game management, as a tactician, as a reactor, he is poor. I agree after the diabolical mess Joey made at Fleetwood, the longer he is here, having some say in transfers, man management etc, the worse it might get rather than better. Worse than that, is it just insane optimism of football fan that thinks Hanlan and Ayunga get basement goals next season? We have to begin to think now, no. i can’t believe posters, I think O2 guilty of this, who thinks this squads not too far away (whilst criticising Garner for building it) that performances not too far away. It’s been relegation form and results for months now. If we go down, a Swindon or Northampton might stay up at our expense. I didn’t hear Joey afterwards, I turned attention to cricket. How did he blame the physio’s? Surely a decent leader can’t state not their fault all time, puts own hand up now and then to protect his players? |
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