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Post by towngas on Mar 5, 2021 12:50:27 GMT
He’s banging on about referees again this morning. Anyone would think the referee had headed the winner into the net or something He should leave that out. The result is a matter of fact. We all know he ref was a complete and utter pancake maker, we don't need JB to bang endlessly on about it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 12:56:13 GMT
You’re looking at the symptom and not the cause- if you want to be angry about Rovers not reaching potential then you have to ask yourself why we are on our third manager of the season and why we have tumbled from 3rd to a relegation fight in just over a calendar year. The answer to that question is the biggest contributor to the club being held back from realising it’s potential, not the fans. Non attending Gasheads in GC time played a part in our current position imo. Trying to ruin it for JB is destructive. Getting rid of Lennie was stupid,but supported by many Gasheads. Some of the posts and threads on this forum since JB got the job are destructive and sanctimonious enough to be the last woke priest standing. Yep,of course WAQ and various board members have made mistakes and they make the decisions ,but that can be prompted by eg non attenders ,not at the Mem because the football is'nt how Gary Lineker told them it should be. These are reasons why - as thread title asked - it will be difficult for JB to become a Rovers legend. I think the self destruct button was reset when the Chairman at Fleetwood had enough of fall outs and dressing room fighting, so faced with a court case in June which would have stripped him of his manager he took action. We now have to wait and see when the fuse detonates or if a judge takes action first. What I do feel is that Joey B***** won't be with us long enough to become a Gas Legend but for the sake of the fans I hope he gets the team to score a few more goals and stop giving a few away and keeps the club in the third tier. Getting rid of a winning combination in Lennie and Trolls at their first downturn of results was idiotic but so was the Chairman of that time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 12:57:49 GMT
You’re looking at the symptom and not the cause- if you want to be angry about Rovers not reaching potential then you have to ask yourself why we are on our third manager of the season and why we have tumbled from 3rd to a relegation fight in just over a calendar year. The answer to that question is the biggest contributor to the club being held back from realising it’s potential, not the fans. Non attending Gasheads in GC time played a part in our current position imo. Trying to ruin it for JB is destructive. Getting rid of Lennie was stupid,but supported by many Gasheads. Some of the posts and threads on this forum since JB got the job are destructive and sanctimonious enough to be the last woke priest standing. Yep,of course WAQ and various board members have made mistakes and they make the decisions ,but that can be prompted by eg non attenders ,not at the Mem because the football is'nt how Gary Lineker told them it should be. These are reasons why - as thread title asked - it will be difficult for JB to become a Rovers legend. With respect Bas one feels that some of the reasons why it was always difficult for David Pipe to become a Rovers legend will apply to B***** too. And I don’t think it’s cancel culture at all. I’m sure most don’t mind B***** earning a living, we should all believe in rehabilitation, but should people with persistent offences, including a serious current charge, still be allowed the “privilege” of a well remunerated role in the public eye as the figure head of a football club? I’m not sure that’s a “yes” from me precisely because of the controversy. We all have a place we’re willing to go in terms of success, some no doubt would grit their teeth even if s sex offender was put in the dug out. For me, I can’t stand the way society opposes violence against women whilst condoning violence against men and this is proof positive because we all know that a man known to give his wife a slap would have been overlooked no matter how many times he got fleetwood into the play offs or what a reformed character he was. Because it was other men there is a quickness to rationalise “oh he must have deserved it!” It didn’t look like the geezer on the beach deserved it and that’s just for starters. So for me, give him a job as kit man, or the driver of the bus, but there should be no room for the sort of violence B***** is guilty of in the dug out and it’s interesting how many of the fans who wanted B***** sacked from Fleetwood and called him a thug when he was arrested after the game at Fleetwood are now calling people ”snowflakes” for not wanting him. Out of interest what was your reaction when you heard about B***** vs Stendel Bas? Were you thinking that the people wanting him sacked we’re just from the “cancel culture” extreme left wing?
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Post by toteend3 on Mar 5, 2021 13:00:47 GMT
You’re looking at the symptom and not the cause- if you want to be angry about Rovers not reaching potential then you have to ask yourself why we are on our third manager of the season and why we have tumbled from 3rd to a relegation fight in just over a calendar year. The answer to that question is the biggest contributor to the club being held back from realising it’s potential, not the fans. Non attending Gasheads in GC time played a part in our current position imo. Trying to ruin it for JB is destructive. Getting rid of Lennie was stupid,but supported by many Gasheads. Some of the posts and threads on this forum since JB got the job are destructive and sanctimonious enough to be the last woke priest standing. Yep,of course WAQ and various board members have made mistakes and they make the decisions ,but that can be prompted by eg non attenders ,not at the Mem because the football is'nt how Gary Lineker told them it should be. These are reasons why - as thread title asked - it will be difficult for JB to become a Rovers legend. True its a tough ask, however avoiding the drop would be a good start!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 13:02:42 GMT
You’re looking at the symptom and not the cause- if you want to be angry about Rovers not reaching potential then you have to ask yourself why we are on our third manager of the season and why we have tumbled from 3rd to a relegation fight in just over a calendar year. The answer to that question is the biggest contributor to the club being held back from realising it’s potential, not the fans. Non attending Gasheads in GC time played a part in our current position imo. Trying to ruin it for JB is destructive. Getting rid of Lennie was stupid,but supported by many Gasheads. Some of the posts and threads on this forum since JB got the job are destructive and sanctimonious enough to be the last woke priest standing. Yep,of course WAQ and various board members have made mistakes and they make the decisions ,but that can be prompted by eg non attenders ,not at the Mem because the football is'nt how Gary Lineker told them it should be. These are reasons why - as thread title asked - it will be difficult for JB to become a Rovers legend. It’s not the posts on this forum which are destructive Basel. To counter it, B***** is getting more online support than I’ve ever seen a rovers manager have. Previous managers have been battered on here but it doesn’t seem acceptable for this one. Every time Garner blamed a ref he was hammered. The clock is ticking. The interviews are getting weirder, blame is being chucked anywhere else. Another couple of defeats and it will hit the fan
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 13:03:34 GMT
He’s banging on about referees again this morning. Anyone would think the referee had headed the winner into the net or something He should leave that out. The result is a matter of fact. We all know he ref was a complete and utter pancake maker, we don't need JB to bang endlessly on about it. Do you think that the comments of JB telling the officials "To get their F****ing heads out of their arses" as reported live by the Bristol Post reporter, might have had an influence on the officials seeing as they are only human after all?
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Mar 5, 2021 13:33:37 GMT
Non attending Gasheads in GC time played a part in our current position imo. Trying to ruin it for JB is destructive. Getting rid of Lennie was stupid,but supported by many Gasheads. Some of the posts and threads on this forum since JB got the job are destructive and sanctimonious enough to be the last woke priest standing. Yep,of course WAQ and various board members have made mistakes and they make the decisions ,but that can be prompted by eg non attenders ,not at the Mem because the football is'nt how Gary Lineker told them it should be. These are reasons why - as thread title asked - it will be difficult for JB to become a Rovers legend. Mate, he could win the Prem, League & FA cups and you'd have the awoke Warriors condemning him and refusing to go to any of the games. Which they would do, but wearing false beards and moustaches in case anyone recognised them. With all the flag-huggers given 'em Nazi salutes
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Post by kentgas on Mar 5, 2021 13:37:49 GMT
Genuine question - I get the reference to Millwall, 1982 and maybe West Ham, but why are Liverpool and Villa in the gutter with no moral standing? Villa have a nasty element in their support base. Liverpool pretend to be victims, always have, but got us banned from European competition, and if you think their behaviour has changed one bit just Google assaults, violence etc involving their fans. We did this on here a while back, it was typified by them attacking the Man City coach, and some on here defending it. They aren't a nice lot up there. Here we go, the usual suspects will crawl out of the woodwork now and say that it's just a few 'wrong 'uns', no it's not, that club has had the problem for generations and should be excluded from all competitions. Attended match days would instantly become safer events for everybody. Surprised at that comment about Villa. Sure they may have a nasty element but worse than other clubs? Could think of many with a far worse reputation tbh. Loved our games against them 50 years or so ago!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 13:42:06 GMT
He should leave that out. The result is a matter of fact. We all know he ref was a complete and utter pancake maker, we don't need JB to bang endlessly on about it. Do you think that the comments of JB telling the officials "To get their F****ing heads out of their arses" as reported live by the Bristol Post reporter, might have had an influence on the officials seeing as they are only human after all? That can’t be right. I thought B***** was intelligent, articulate and engaging?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 13:52:19 GMT
Do you think that the comments of JB telling the officials "To get their F****ing heads out of their arses" as reported live by the Bristol Post reporter, might have had an influence on the officials seeing as they are only human after all? That can’t be right. I thought B***** was intelligent, articulate and engaging? Apparently that is only visible when there is no red mist.
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 5, 2021 14:21:32 GMT
That can’t be right. I thought B***** was intelligent, articulate and engaging? Apparently that is only visible when there is no red mist. That explains it - agent B***** has infiltrated us
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Post by Rex on Mar 5, 2021 18:45:44 GMT
Good grief. So now B***** is the victim, just as he says every time he gets caught. This is what he said after being banned for placing bets on football matches over a 10 year period, it wasn't his fault because he was addicted to gambling, he then doubled down on excusing himself by blaming the FA for not doing more to challenge the culture of gambling. That was after he complained that an 18 month ban for gambling was too severe. At times this bloke sounds a bit idiotic I'm afraid. Ref us being a 'Family club'. That ship has sailed with B*****'s appointment. We are now in the gutter with clubs like Liverpool, Millwall, 1982, Villa, West Ham, you know, those clubs with no moral standing whatsoever. Even West Ham fans complained so much about B***** that David Gold changed his mind about signing him, so that sorta shows you where we are in the pantheon of football morality.Not really, it just means some West Ham fans complained, much in the same way some Rovers fans are now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 18:59:40 GMT
Even West Ham fans complained so much about B***** that David Gold changed his mind about signing him, so that sorta shows you where we are in the pantheon of football morality. Not really, it just means some West Ham fans complained, much in the same way some Rovers fans are now. Given their shocking reputation, and it's still going on now, or at least it was right up until the end of attended matches, with their yobs rioting at home games continually, if people are still prepared to identify with that disgrace of a football club but object to B*****, that sets a marker for just how low we've sunk by appointing him. So many videos on YouTube it's hard to chose one, but have decided to go with this beauty. No away supporters, that doesn't matter, we'll fight each other.
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Post by basel on Mar 5, 2021 19:21:28 GMT
Non attending Gasheads in GC time played a part in our current position imo. Trying to ruin it for JB is destructive. Getting rid of Lennie was stupid,but supported by many Gasheads. Some of the posts and threads on this forum since JB got the job are destructive and sanctimonious enough to be the last woke priest standing. Yep,of course WAQ and various board members have made mistakes and they make the decisions ,but that can be prompted by eg non attenders ,not at the Mem because the football is'nt how Gary Lineker told them it should be. These are reasons why - as thread title asked - it will be difficult for JB to become a Rovers legend. I think the self destruct button was reset when the Chairman at Fleetwood had enough of fall outs and dressing room fighting, so faced with a court case in June which would have stripped him of his manager he took action. We now have to wait and see when the fuse detonates or if a judge takes action first. What I do feel is that Joey B***** won't be with us long enough to become a Gas Legend but for the sake of the fans I hope he gets the team to score a few more goals and stop giving a few away and keeps the club in the third tier. Getting rid of a winning combination in Lennie and Trolls at their first downturn of results was idiotic but so was the Chairman of that time. There is an element of "self destruct" about Rovers.
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Post by basel on Mar 5, 2021 19:45:30 GMT
Football clubs have a structure and it needs to be respected,except in extreme circumstance.
Rovers.
El Presidente WAQ is the Boss.
He and the Board discuss our route,the "Boss" has the final say.
The powers that be select a Manager.
Players do as the Manager says to the best of their ability
Gasheads support the Rovers in vocally home and away.But merchandise.Help out in the community etc.
I don't think hiring Joey B***** is an extreme move that warrants the destructive 'atmosphere' that's going on.Okay,I know JB has plenty of support too.
We ought to win,lose and draw together.It makes sense.
I found the point of view of those that could'nt accept the GC era unfathomable.'Bugger success,I want pretty football'!I questioned whether I wanted to bother anymore.Why support a club that has such a self destruct capability.
It's been discussed how bad will it be if Rovers go down.
I think it could be even worse if it looks as if JB could succeed at Rovers - by challenging for promotion to the 2nd tier - but somehow,anti JB Gasheads pressure ,prompts the Board to get rid of him,or at least plays a part in his departure.
That might see some Gasheads give up on the club.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 20:17:48 GMT
Football clubs have a structure and it needs to be respected,except in extreme circumstance. Rovers. El Presidente WAQ is the Boss. He and the Board discuss our route,the "Boss" has the final say. The powers that be select a Manager. Players do as the Manager says to the best of their ability Gasheads support the Rovers in vocally home and away.But merchandise.Help out in the community etc. I don't think hiring Joey B***** is an extreme move that warrants the destructive 'atmosphere' that's going on.Okay,I know JB has plenty of support too. We ought to win,lose and draw together.It makes sense. I found the point of view of those that could'nt accept the GC era unfathomable.'Bugger success,I want pretty football'!I questioned whether I wanted to bother anymore.Why support a club that has such a self destruct capability. It's been discussed how bad will it be if Rovers go down. I think it could be even worse if it looks as if JB could succeed at Rovers - by challenging for promotion to the 2nd tier - but somehow,anti JB Gasheads pressure ,prompts the Board to get rid of him,or at least plays a part in his departure. That might see some Gasheads give up on the club. I’m not sure people will be actively against B***** in the long term. I can only speak for myself - I found it hard the first game not looking at the team sheet an hour before kick off and staying away from keeping an eye on the score, but by the Burton game I barely remembered we were playing. I’ll be busy tomorrow but at some point in the afternoon I’ll look at the score and while my stomach will tighten a bit if we’ve lost it will be soon forgotten. By august I probably won’t know half the players and my kids won’t even remember BRFC. I won’t buy any more merchandise and if B***** is sacked/jailed/glasses widdrington at the end of the season it might actually be quiet difficult going back. I feel I’ve seen the worst in the board, Wael and a lot of supporters in this episode and I don’t really feel connected or bothered about the club
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Post by basel on Mar 5, 2021 20:31:46 GMT
Football clubs have a structure and it needs to be respected,except in extreme circumstance. Rovers. El Presidente WAQ is the Boss. He and the Board discuss our route,the "Boss" has the final say. The powers that be select a Manager. Players do as the Manager says to the best of their ability Gasheads support the Rovers in vocally home and away.But merchandise.Help out in the community etc. I don't think hiring Joey B***** is an extreme move that warrants the destructive 'atmosphere' that's going on.Okay,I know JB has plenty of support too. We ought to win,lose and draw together.It makes sense. I found the point of view of those that could'nt accept the GC era unfathomable.'Bugger success,I want pretty football'!I questioned whether I wanted to bother anymore.Why support a club that has such a self destruct capability. It's been discussed how bad will it be if Rovers go down. I think it could be even worse if it looks as if JB could succeed at Rovers - by challenging for promotion to the 2nd tier - but somehow,anti JB Gasheads pressure ,prompts the Board to get rid of him,or at least plays a part in his departure. That might see some Gasheads give up on the club. I’m not sure people will be actively against B***** in the long term. I can only speak for myself - I found it hard the first game not looking at the team sheet an hour before kick off and staying away from keeping an eye on the score, but by the Burton game I barely remembered we were playing. I’ll be busy tomorrow but at some point in the afternoon I’ll look at the score and while my stomach will tighten a bit if we’ve lost it will be soon forgotten. By august I probably won’t know half the players and my kids won’t even remember BRFC. I won’t buy any more merchandise and if B***** is sacked/jailed/glasses widdrington at the end of the season it might actually be quiet difficult going back. I feel I’ve seen the worst in the board, Wael and a lot of supporters in this episode and I don’t really feel connected or bothered about the club With respect Vlad,you are still here (good) ,writing about Rovers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 20:44:26 GMT
I’m not sure people will be actively against B***** in the long term. I can only speak for myself - I found it hard the first game not looking at the team sheet an hour before kick off and staying away from keeping an eye on the score, but by the Burton game I barely remembered we were playing. I’ll be busy tomorrow but at some point in the afternoon I’ll look at the score and while my stomach will tighten a bit if we’ve lost it will be soon forgotten. By august I probably won’t know half the players and my kids won’t even remember BRFC. I won’t buy any more merchandise and if B***** is sacked/jailed/glasses widdrington at the end of the season it might actually be quiet difficult going back. I feel I’ve seen the worst in the board, Wael and a lot of supporters in this episode and I don’t really feel connected or bothered about the club With respect Vlad,you are still here (good) ,writing about Rovers. Ha, ha that crossed my mind as I was writing. I can’t explain that
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 21:26:27 GMT
Even West Ham fans complained so much about B***** that David Gold changed his mind about signing him, so that sorta shows you where we are in the pantheon of football morality. Not really, it just means some West Ham fans complained, much in the same way some Rovers fans are now. A number significant enough that the club listened
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 21:36:22 GMT
Not really, it just means some West Ham fans complained, much in the same way some Rovers fans are now. A number significant enough that the club listened Have you ever noticed that when you get great service the company always want feedback and act on it, but if a company is crap and needs to improve they’re not interested in feedback at all?
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