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Post by toteend3 on Mar 4, 2021 12:55:04 GMT
Its becoming increasingly more depressing every time i tune in, to get hit by Joey B unfit to manage Bristol Rovers. Made worst with all the other negatives such as as not supporting the club until Wael and JB are gone and that we are certs for relegation! Its getting to the stage that i come stright back out as the forum, without reading any recent quotes as the needle appears to be well and truely stuck, we are in danger of becoming a 'one trick pony' and it implies that we are all of the same opinion.
I can understand people being depressed after the Covid blighted year we have all had to endure. Nevertheless when i started contrbuting to this forum after being shown the Red Card by the Gasshat Forum it was like a breathe of fresh air.
The bottom line is Wael with all his faults is keeping the club going and with JB, Arrry Redknapp is of the opinion that he is 'management material' His appointment has raised the clubs profile and i truely believe he will keep us up. Hes very much in the public eye, he knows this is his last chance to redeem himself and at the same time finally bring long suffering Gasheads some real substained success.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 13:08:42 GMT
I’ll never understand why people expect forums to bend around their viewpoints. Basically “I want to read more of opinions like mine and less of opinions like yours”.
It doesn’t work like that, nor should it. To do so creates an echo chamber and do people really want wall to wall “B***** is da king!” threads anyway? There needs to be a place where those with doubts can express their opinions and debate them accordingly.
Maybe there are more naysayers here but at least the issue is debated in a much healthier and wholesome style that you would find on B***** Chat where people falling out of love with the club were alienated further by a certain section of the fanbase who actively wanted them to leave and take their views elsewhere. There is a zero tolerance policy over there these days for viewpoints that question the hiring of the manager, even questioning of the board is becoming frowned upon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 13:27:13 GMT
I’ll never understand why people expect forums to bend around their viewpoints. Basically “I want to read more of opinions like mine and less of opinions like yours”. It doesn’t work like that, nor should it. To do so creates an echo chamber and do people really want wall to wall “B***** is da king!” threads anyway? There needs to be a place where those with doubts can express their opinions and debate them accordingly. Maybe there are more naysayers here but at least the issue is debated in a much healthier and wholesome style that you would find on B***** Chat where people falling out of love with the club were alienated further by a certain section of the fanbase who actively wanted them to leave and take their views elsewhere. There is a zero tolerance policy over there these days for viewpoints that question the hiring of the manager, even questioning of the board is becoming frowned upon. True, Swissgas was banned from Gaschat for expressing an opinion that a moderator didn't agree with without breaking any rules and I noticed another poster was threatened with a ban for disagreeing with a moderator. B***** isn't the first manager I disapproved of but I keep following in the knowledge that he probably won't be here for very long.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 13:56:53 GMT
I’ll never understand why people expect forums to bend around their viewpoints. Basically “I want to read more of opinions like mine and less of opinions like yours”. It doesn’t work like that, nor should it. To do so creates an echo chamber and do people really want wall to wall “B***** is da king!” threads anyway? There needs to be a place where those with doubts can express their opinions and debate them accordingly. Maybe there are more naysayers here but at least the issue is debated in a much healthier and wholesome style that you would find on B***** Chat where people falling out of love with the club were alienated further by a certain section of the fanbase who actively wanted them to leave and take their views elsewhere. There is a zero tolerance policy over there these days for viewpoints that question the hiring of the manager, even questioning of the board is becoming frowned upon. True, Swissgas was banned from Gaschat for expressing an opinion that a moderator didn't agree with without breaking any rules and I noticed another poster was threatened with a ban for disagreeing with a moderator. B***** isn't the first manager I disapproved of but I keep following in the knowledge that he probably won't be here for very long. Yep, I was going to stop the other week, but I listened to the Wigan game and listened to the Burton game, still paying my iFollow subs. I feel completely disconnected from it and yet I still feel urged to get it off my chest how I feel the club should be moving forwards. It’s like a purgatory of sorts 😂
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Post by petecolley on Mar 4, 2021 13:59:00 GMT
Its becoming increasingly more depressing every time i tune in, to get hit by Joey B unfit to manage Bristol Rovers. Made worst with all the other negatives such as as not supporting the club until Wael and JB are gone and that we are certs for relegation! Its getting to the stage that i come stright back out as the forum, without reading any recent quotes as the needle appears to be well and truely stuck, we are in danger of becoming a 'one trick pony' and it implies that we are all of the same opinion. I can understand people being depressed after the Covid blighted year we have all had to endure. Nevertheless when i started contrbuting to this forum after being shown the Red Card by the Gasshat Forum it was like a breathe of fresh air. The bottom line is Wael with all his faults is keeping the club going and with JB, Arrry Redknapp is of the opinion that he is 'management material' His appointment has raised the clubs profile and i truely believe he will keep us up. Hes very much in the public eye, he knows this is his last chance to redeem himself and at the same time finally bring long suffering Gasheads some real substained success.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 13:59:02 GMT
Why has our profile been raised?
Because he's a loose cannon with a history of attacking people and has served a lengthy ban for placing well over 1000 bets that he knew he wasn't allowed to be involved with.
That's why.
It'll be raised some more if his latest charge actually makes it to a court hearing. And then it'll go through the roof if he gets a custodial sentence.
Great, just great.
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Post by petecolley on Mar 4, 2021 14:02:11 GMT
I seldom comment on this forum but visit it frequently, i find it a good source of information. However of late my visits are very brief, pissed off with so many posters obsessed with their own agenda and almost glorying in Rovers misfortunes. If the cap fits........
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Post by outwoodgas on Mar 4, 2021 14:09:01 GMT
Its becoming increasingly more depressing every time i tune in, to get hit by Joey B unfit to manage Bristol Rovers. Made worst with all the other negatives such as as not supporting the club until Wael and JB are gone and that we are certs for relegation! Its getting to the stage that i come stright back out as the forum, without reading any recent quotes as the needle appears to be well and truely stuck, we are in danger of becoming a 'one trick pony' and it implies that we are all of the same opinion. I can understand people being depressed after the Covid blighted year we have all had to endure. Nevertheless when i started contrbuting to this forum after being shown the Red Card by the Gasshat Forum it was like a breathe of fresh air. The bottom line is Wael with all his faults is keeping the club going and with JB, Arrry Redknapp is of the opinion that he is 'management material' His appointment has raised the clubs profile and i truely believe he will keep us up. Hes very much in the public eye, he knows this is his last chance to redeem himself and at the same time finally bring long suffering Gasheads some real substained success. Bravo for putting your head above the parapet! I have not visited the site either much recently, as its pretty clear where people stand. Maybe we should have separate threads for those who cannot abide B*****, those who love him, and those like me who are somewhere down the middle. Whilst I am tending towards being supportive of him, I have struggled to justify to myself exactly why and how, given his appalling record of misdemeanors and in particular the opposition of so many respected posters on here. I think it boils down to the fact that he cannot help who and what he is. Its inherent. His father without doubt was a thoroughly nasty piece of work. What sort of behavioral examples was Joey subjected to as a kid? What sort of parental standards would allow a 17-year-old boy to go out and drive an ice-axe into another boy’s head simply because he was black, as happened with B*****’s half-brother? I believe that however much Joey will try to improve himself, that nasty streak will always burst out and he will be in trouble again. I just hope that as he gets older and wiser those incidents become less and less. But then there is the other side to B*****. On the evidence of player interviews, team performances, and reporters closer to the club than any of us, it looks as if he has made an immediate and galvanizing impact at Rovers – not only tactical, but by inspiring the players through his character, experience, intelligence, and positivity. His charge sheet aside, he looks like the very sort of manager Rovers have been crying out for since Darrell left. I would really like to see B***** learn from our ‘family club’, respect our values, keep his nose clean, and enhance the careers of our players and thus improve Bristol Rovers. My gut instincts are that it will probably all end in tears, but I think on balance I am prepared to give him that chance. And if he does come out of it a better man for his Bristol Rovers experience is that not a good result?
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 4, 2021 14:29:37 GMT
Its becoming increasingly more depressing every time i tune in, to get hit by Joey B unfit to manage Bristol Rovers. Made worst with all the other negatives such as as not supporting the club until Wael and JB are gone and that we are certs for relegation! Its getting to the stage that i come stright back out as the forum, without reading any recent quotes as the needle appears to be well and truely stuck, we are in danger of becoming a 'one trick pony' and it implies that we are all of the same opinion. I can understand people being depressed after the Covid blighted year we have all had to endure. Nevertheless when i started contrbuting to this forum after being shown the Red Card by the Gasshat Forum it was like a breathe of fresh air. The bottom line is Wael with all his faults is keeping the club going and with JB, Arrry Redknapp is of the opinion that he is 'management material' His appointment has raised the clubs profile and i truely believe he will keep us up. Hes very much in the public eye, he knows this is his last chance to redeem himself and at the same time finally bring long suffering Gasheads some real substained success. Clint Hill certainly been top flight high achiever, like to think if he spends any months with that defence they will stop ball watching and getting caught wrong side of goal. If B***** is an excellent coach and manager (the way we kicked off the other day was inventive, and how he’s stuck to a plan to imbed it is spot on) I would find that so frustrating that a great manager is a stupid idiot liability at the same time. 6th month jail for repeated violence. 18th month ban for betting on matches (why are footballers banned from betting on games they and their mates involved in?) It’s not like its one or two things long ago before he grew up, he just can’t stop. He had the Stendhal hanging over him delayed by covid that could be more jail and football ban, yet still managed to end his Fleetwood spell with a big violent fight. You are allowed your freedom in this world, but when you pick up criminal record and bad reputation it has to impinge on that freedom, if you are not playing ball with everyone they can’t grant the same leeway as they would everyone else. Can they? He’s asking people to take him at risk, and he just keeps letting them down. To me its not moralising. If I was moralising I am a soft touch liberal, I would tend to say give people with criminal record and bad reputation a chance, give them some freedom and opportunity back. (Priti Patel would just tie him to a rack and see if castration sorts him out) To me its practical. You have to be greedy as owner or chairman to hire the best leadership options you can, which B***** clearly isn’t. Not in a practical sense. How does a club sack players who have bet on matches they are involved in, when they hire managers with 18 month ban from football who do that themselves? How do you discipline anyone employed by the club who will beat up 15 year old kids rather than laugh off a bit of teasing banter or walk away smiling, when your leader does this themselves? It’s not just Wael taking that risk, we have to think about everyone else the risk impacts, players, staff, club reputation etc. I’m just not convinced how it can practically play out was thought through. As typical for a poorly run club.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 4, 2021 16:52:43 GMT
I’ll never understand why people expect forums to bend around their viewpoints. Basically “I want to read more of opinions like mine and less of opinions like yours”. It doesn’t work like that, nor should it. To do so creates an echo chamber and do people really want wall to wall “B***** is da king!” threads anyway? There needs to be a place where those with doubts can express their opinions and debate them accordingly. Maybe there are more naysayers here but at least the issue is debated in a much healthier and wholesome style that you would find on B***** Chat where people falling out of love with the club were alienated further by a certain section of the fanbase who actively wanted them to leave and take their views elsewhere. There is a zero tolerance policy over there these days for viewpoints that question the hiring of the manager, even questioning of the board is becoming frowned upon. True, Swissgas was banned from Gaschat for expressing an opinion that a moderator didn't agree with without breaking any rules and I noticed another poster was threatened with a ban for disagreeing with a moderator. B***** isn't the first manager I disapproved of but I keep following in the knowledge that he probably won't be here for very long. That’s because that place has club people on it. We have a couple of newcomers on here, who were banned there
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 4, 2021 16:56:29 GMT
Why has our profile been raised? Because he's a loose cannon with a history of attacking people and has served a lengthy ban for placing well over 1000 bets that he knew he wasn't allowed to be involved with. That's why. It'll be raised some more if his latest charge actually makes it to a court hearing. And then it'll go through the roof if he gets a custodial sentence. Great, just great. That explains why rovers Facebook page is now full of non fans posting about placing bets that can’t lose
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 4, 2021 17:00:44 GMT
I seldom comment on this forum but visit it frequently, i find it a good source of information. However of late my visits are very brief, pissed off with so many posters obsessed with their own agenda and almost glorying in Rovers misfortunes. If the cap fits........ I don’t think any of us are close to glorifying in the awful mess. We are just at an extremely low point after squandering the superb forward momentum, that we had after the second promotion, being totally thrown away and it looks like no thought has gone into this squad in allowing the experienced and genuine L1 players to go and replacing them with development players, at best.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 4, 2021 17:13:38 GMT
I seldom comment on this forum but visit it frequently, i find it a good source of information. However of late my visits are very brief, pissed off with so many posters obsessed with their own agenda and almost glorying in Rovers misfortunes. If the cap fits........ I don’t think any of us are close to glorifying in the awful mess. We are just at an extremely low point after squandering the superb forward momentum, that we had after the second promotion, being totally thrown away and it looks like no thought has gone into this squad in allowing the experienced and genuine L1 players to go and replacing them with development players, at best. Brutal! Brutally honest...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:22:29 GMT
I wasn’t impressed with his comments about Burton and hasselbaink in the press. Saying they just hoof it and that’s why he failed at QPR. No better than ricketts or Robinson, just comes across as sour and disrespectful
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:28:02 GMT
I wasn’t impressed with his comments about Burton and hasselbaink in the press. Saying they just hoof it and that’s why he failed at QPR. No better than ricketts or Robinson, just comes across as sour and disrespectful The sort of stuff people would complain about if it was said about us by the likes of Ricketts.
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Post by trymer on Mar 4, 2021 17:50:56 GMT
Its becoming increasingly more depressing every time i tune in, to get hit by Joey B unfit to manage Bristol Rovers. Made worst with all the other negatives such as as not supporting the club until Wael and JB are gone and that we are certs for relegation! Its getting to the stage that i come stright back out as the forum, without reading any recent quotes as the needle appears to be well and truely stuck, we are in danger of becoming a 'one trick pony' and it implies that we are all of the same opinion. I can understand people being depressed after the Covid blighted year we have all had to endure. Nevertheless when i started contrbuting to this forum after being shown the Red Card by the Gasshat Forum it was like a breathe of fresh air. The bottom line is Wael with all his faults is keeping the club going and with JB, Arrry Redknapp is of the opinion that he is 'management material' His appointment has raised the clubs profile and i truely believe he will keep us up. Hes very much in the public eye, he knows this is his last chance to redeem himself and at the same time finally bring long suffering Gasheads some real substained success. Would be nice if Rovers stayed up and then JB,Harry Redknapp and a consortium of real businessman made the present owners an offer that they couldnt refuse to buy Rovers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 17:56:45 GMT
I seldom comment on this forum but visit it frequently, i find it a good source of information. However of late my visits are very brief, pissed off with so many posters obsessed with their own agenda and almost glorying in Rovers misfortunes. If the cap fits........ I don’t think any of us are close to glorifying in the awful mess. We are just at an extremely low point after squandering the superb forward momentum, that we had after the second promotion, being totally thrown away and it looks like no thought has gone into this squad in allowing the experienced and genuine L1 players to go and replacing them with development players, at best. I reckon it's worse than that KP. My reading is that Wael watched Arse kids Vs Liverpool kids draw 5-5 about 2 years back and thought that was the future and he could field a team of 'prospects' sell off enough Turncoats and Bodins to pay the bills and also pay for a stadium build, then when the stadium was finished stop selling and march straight on up the the to be competitive in the 2nd tier. And nobody around him had the balls to tell him he was talking rubbish.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 18:02:13 GMT
Why has our profile been raised? Because he's a loose cannon with a history of attacking people and has served a lengthy ban for placing well over 1000 bets that he knew he wasn't allowed to be involved with. That's why. It'll be raised some more if his latest charge actually makes it to a court hearing. And then it'll go through the roof if he gets a custodial sentence. Great, just great. That explains why rovers Facebook page is now full of non fans posting about placing bets that can’t lose Here you go KP. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39720232True to form for this bloke, and upholding Scouser tradition, of course it wasn't his fault that he knowingly broke gambling rules, over a 10 year period, he's the victim here because it was an addiction. And of course, rather than just say 'I've done wrong, let this punishment serve as notice to others, please do not do as I've done', his immediate reaction was to say that the ban was 'excessive' and to say that he planned to appeal. He claimed that although he bet on matches that he was involved in himself that was OK, seriously, here's exactly what he said, He also ''called on the FA to do more to tackle the culture of gambling in football''. This is typical of this guy. He's got no idea what he's rambling on about. Moans about the punishment in one breath then demands more is done about the problem in his very next breath. He's not the brightest, is he.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 18:14:12 GMT
Why has our profile been raised? Because he's a loose cannon with a history of attacking people and has served a lengthy ban for placing well over 1000 bets that he knew he wasn't allowed to be involved with. That's why. It'll be raised some more if his latest charge actually makes it to a court hearing. And then it'll go through the roof if he gets a custodial sentence. Great, just great. That explains why rovers Facebook page is now full of non fans posting about placing bets that can’t lose Ha ha, this is the new high profile social media presence people keep banging on about
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 18:17:30 GMT
I wasn’t impressed with his comments about Burton and hasselbaink in the press. Saying they just hoof it and that’s why he failed at QPR. No better than ricketts or Robinson, just comes across as sour and disrespectful The clock is ticking.......
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