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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 19:33:40 GMT
Does everything have to be one or the other? #2 Barton stated on air. #3 I take to be self-evident. #4 is something on which we have heard testimony on here, which I believe to be truthful. #5 is my considered opinion, based on the synchrony between the words on Barton, Al Qadi (remember him?) and a former director with apparently reliable ears at the Memorial Ground. If you want proven facts, then I can recommend only the sciences. If you prefer wild speculation, thn I recommend social media. On here I can offer only my own considered views based on interpretation of the evidence and testimony available. What are yours? #2 Barton did not state that he is not employed by Wael. #5 I've heard a different version from somebody in Liverpool, who knows JB - I'm keeping an open mind, as I have no actual proof either way. I think it would be sensible to state that you are airing your own considered opinions when posting a dogmatic sounding list such as this, then there won't be any confusion. It's always interesting to read the opinions of others. I don't think 5 is true, not in a legal context any way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 19:44:51 GMT
I think it would be sensible to state that you are airing your own considered opinions when posting a dogmatic sounding list such as this, then there won't be any confusion. If it's 'dogmatic sounding' then it's obviously opinion, or 'dogma', though? Perhaps dogma isn't the concept you meant to suggest. I don't feel the need to preface everything I write with 'in my opinion'. Whose else do you expect me to write? I looked up IR35 online, but I haven't yet understood a damn thing. As for #5, no, I don't think the Barton Syndicate control Rovers legally. They're controlling what's put out publicly of late though, according to Rat Boy. I fear there is more control that that, too, but I don't understand it, and I hope to God I'm wrong.
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Post by Bath Gas on Oct 31, 2021 20:22:00 GMT
I think it would be sensible to state that you are airing your own considered opinions when posting a dogmatic sounding list such as this, then there won't be any confusion. If it's 'dogmatic sounding' then it's obviously opinion, or 'dogma', though? Perhaps dogma isn't the concept you meant to suggest. I don't feel the need to preface everything I write with 'in my opinion'. Whose else do you expect me to write? I looked up IR35 online, but I haven't yet understood a damn thing. As for #5, no, I don't think the Barton Syndicate control Rovers legally. They're controlling what's put out publicly of late though, according to Rat Boy. I fear there is more control that that, too, but I don't understand it, and I hope to God I'm wrong. I didn't suggest prefacing everything you write - I just find that a list, with no expanatory text, could easily be interpreted as fact. Apologies, you asked what my own views were - so here goes. Based on observations:- There does seem to be something strange about the current set-up at Rovers. Barton does seem to have an air of "untouchable" about him, particularly with regard to his comments about some members of the Board. I tend to favour the view that Wael is enamoured of his "celebrity" status, he may well be in awe of JB's playing experience, and is enthralled by JB, when he is talking the talk. On the plus side, I think that JB has moulded a team who want to play for him, and they are bonded as a group. You can see how much each win, (or hard fought draw), means to them - which is as it should be, and what we were used to seeing under DC/GC.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 20:30:05 GMT
Apologies, you asked what my own views were - so here goes. Based on observations: there does seem to be something strange about the current set-up at Rovers. Barton does seem to have an air of "untouchable" about him, particularly with regard to his comments about some members of the Board. I tend to favour the view that Wael is enamoured of his "celebrity" status, he may well be in awe of JB's playing experience, and is enthralled by JB, when he is talking the talk. Thanks for responding. There you start with where I am now, and then describe exactly the view I always had before. Certainly Al Qadi is a sucker for fame and names. Let's hope it's only that. But he's vanished, and I fear he's delegated, or worse. On the plus side, I think that JB has moulded a team who want to play for him, and they are bonded as a group. You can see how much each win, (or hard fought draw), means to them - which is as it should be, and what we were used to seeing under DC/GC. What you describe here, is what I'd want back, to be fair, and I'd agree with it. On the matchday thread I might. On this thread, however, I'm hampered by Joey Barton being unfit to manage Bristol Rovers.
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Post by lostinspace on Nov 1, 2021 12:40:06 GMT
As most of you will be aware Nuno is available, he could work for free after his payout from Tottenham, let's go for it ⚽🤭
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 1, 2021 13:22:39 GMT
As most of you will be aware Nuno is available, he could work for free after his payout from Tottenham, let's go for it ⚽🤭 Not a fan of his style of play and he does like to play two holding midfielders. So that’s Coutts and Whelan nailed on then. 😉 There will be better and more suitable options in December. Looks like BODs all over the country are getting worried now November’s here. Scunthorpe, Spurs and Barnsley have all got rid of managers today. UTG!
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Post by lostinspace on Nov 1, 2021 13:55:38 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Nov 1, 2021 13:58:13 GMT
Dear me! Baby brains and guns.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 1, 2021 14:11:52 GMT
Does everything have to be one or the other? #2 Barton stated on air. #3 I take to be self-evident. #4 is something on which we have heard testimony on here, which I believe to be truthful. #5 is my considered opinion, based on the synchrony between the words on Barton, Al Qadi (remember him?) and a former director with apparently reliable ears at the Memorial Ground. If you want proven facts, then I can recommend only the sciences. If you prefer wild speculation, thn I recommend social media. On here I can offer only my own considered views based on interpretation of the evidence and testimony available. What are yours? #2 Barton did not state that he is not employed by Wael. #5 I've heard a different version from somebody in Liverpool, who knows JB - I'm keeping an open mind, as I have no actual proof either way. I think it would be sensible to state that you are airing your own considered opinions when posting a dogmatic sounding list such as this, then there won't be any confusion. It's always interesting to read the opinions of others. Thanks for that as i had no idea of it as, as a self employed person, i thought i knew more than most. Very interesting to me, not dull at all
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 1, 2021 14:16:49 GMT
Does everything have to be one or the other? #2 Barton stated on air. #3 I take to be self-evident. #4 is something on which we have heard testimony on here, which I believe to be truthful. #5 is my considered opinion, based on the synchrony between the words on Barton, Al Qadi (remember him?) and a former director with apparently reliable ears at the Memorial Ground. If you want proven facts, then I can recommend only the sciences. If you prefer wild speculation, thn I recommend social media. On here I can offer only my own considered views based on interpretation of the evidence and testimony available. What are yours? #2 Barton did not state that he is not employed by Wael. #5 I've heard a different version from somebody in Liverpool, who knows JB - I'm keeping an open mind, as I have no actual proof either way. iro #5, do you think that they would like to control Rovers BG?
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Post by Bath Gas on Nov 1, 2021 15:38:55 GMT
#2 Barton did not state that he is not employed by Wael. #5 I've heard a different version from somebody in Liverpool, who knows JB - I'm keeping an open mind, as I have no actual proof either way. iro #5, do you think that they would like to control Rovers BG? I don't know who are the members of the so called "Liverpool Mafia", or is such a group exists, so it's difficult to form an opinion. I suppose JB's reference to things improving off the pitch could be referring to new investment in the club? I'd still go with the theory that Wael is enthralled by JB, hence the amount of power that he appears to wield.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 2, 2021 9:34:06 GMT
iro #5, do you think that they would like to control Rovers BG? I don't know who are the members of the so called "Liverpool Mafia", or is such a group exists, so it's difficult to form an opinion. I suppose JB's reference to things improving off the pitch could be referring to new investment in the club? I'd still go with the theory that Wael is enthralled by JB, hence the amount of power that he appears to wield. I think that's the least horrible explanation. I wonder if this thread will get to 100 pages before Barton has gone forth and multiplied?
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Post by bondigas on Nov 5, 2021 23:06:48 GMT
I see only this evening Michael Vaughan has been removed from the 5 Live Sport Tuffers and Vaughan Cricket Show this coming Monday until further notice. The reason, something that apparently Vaughan said 11 years ago within hearing walking onto the pitch at Trent Bridge directed at fellow team mates which he now vehemently denies and will probably have to go to court to clear his name. What does our weak wristed, insipid, indecisive lapdog football groupie owner do when faced with a much more worse horrendous problem, an assault by his manager on his wife who receives a kick in the head the size of a boiled egg having been thrown to the floor and a bloody nose all captured at the scene of the crime by Met Police body cameras when they arrive, he does nothing. Our owner now pathetically awaits the outcome of not one trial but two trials within the next 6 weeks before deciding the outcome of Barton's employment and how to remove those employed by Barton working for the club ! Barton has betrayed and shamed not only Rovers by simply being associated with club but also the game we all used to love and know, its time the club rid itself of the thug Barton and the club cleaned it's act up. The club is not limping into a black hole of destruction, its hurtling towards oblivion, the only people who care about its future are the lifelong fans.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2021 17:06:52 GMT
I see only this evening Michael Vaughan has been removed from the 5 Live Sport Tuffers and Vaughan Cricket Show this coming Monday until further notice. The reason, something that apparently Vaughan said 11 years ago within hearing walking onto the pitch at Trent Bridge directed at fellow team mates which he now vehemently denies and will probably have to go to court to clear his name. What does our weak wristed, insipid, indecisive lapdog football groupie owner do when faced with a much more worse horrendous problem, an assault by his manager on his wife who receives a kick in the head the size of a boiled egg having been thrown to the floor and a bloody nose all captured at the scene of the crime by Met Police body cameras when they arrive, he does nothing. Our owner now pathetically awaits the outcome of not one trial but two trials within the next 6 weeks before deciding the outcome of Barton's employment and how to remove those employed by Barton working for the club ! Barton has betrayed and shamed not only Rovers by simply being associated with club but also the game we all used to love and know, its time the club rid itself of the thug Barton and the club cleaned it's act up. The club is not limping into a black hole of destruction, its hurtling towards oblivion, the only people who care about its future are the lifelong fans. This is worth reading twice. Compelling.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 11, 2021 20:00:30 GMT
After 90 odd pages I still can't work out whether JAB is unfit or no to manage Bristol Rovers!?
.... but if you're a GasHead, you celebrate any goal or decent result that promotes the good of the club.
I'm sure some will see something different, but I see what I done myself actually at the event: a celebration of a goal for us. Not every proceeding manager has conducted themselves with as much heart on sleeves, but I do like watching reactions when we score..... and JAB didn't disappoint. Ere tis:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 20:05:00 GMT
After 90 odd pages I still can't work out whether JAB is unfit or no to manage Bristol Rovers!? .... but if you're a GasHead, you celebrate any goal or decent result that promotes the good of the club. I'm sure some will see something different, but I see what I done myself actually at the event: a celebration of a goal for us. Not every proceeding manager has conducted themselves with as much heart on sleeves, but I do like watching reactions when we score..... and JAB didn't disappoint. Ere tis: Turns my stomach to see that lout associated in any way with my club. Right now it's difficult to think how things are ever going to be quite right again. Cheers Wael. Just get out of my club, and take Barton with you.
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Post by Angas on Nov 11, 2021 21:27:58 GMT
What had we done there. Won the Premier League? Stupid man, he really is. I notice he didn't bother wearing a poppy this morning at the Remembrance Day service. All round clueless.
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Post by One F in Dunford on Nov 11, 2021 21:45:52 GMT
What had we done there. Won the Premier League? Stupid man, he really is. I notice he didn't bother wearing a poppy this morning at the Remembrance Day service. All round clueless. I’m not a Barton fan but it does this forum no good to knock him at every thing he does. i didn’t wear a poppy today when I stood silent at 11am. Does this make me clueless?
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 11, 2021 22:14:17 GMT
What had we done there. Won the Premier League? Stupid man, he really is. I notice he didn't bother wearing a poppy this morning at the Remembrance Day service. All round clueless. I’m not a Barton fan but it does this forum no good to knock him at every thing he does. i didn’t wear a poppy today when I stood silent at 11am. Does this make me clueless? No, it doesn't make you clueless. Just a bit odd. I don't understand making the effort to attend a minutes silence, but not wear a poppy in remembrance of the war dead. I actually hadn't bought one this year. I was a bit ashamed. I bought one at about 10am and stuck it on my Union Berlin shirt and attended the minutes silence at Epping war Memorial. Millions died from both sides. A huge percentage of them didn't want to go to war. Lest we forget.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 11, 2021 22:20:41 GMT
To me wearing a poppy is a freedom of choice. A freedom two of my great uncles died for and several of my family have fought for in the armed forces. I personally don't knock people who choose not to wear one. However that being said if you are going to be right in the public eye and you need to improve your reputation, in his position, I would have worn one.
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