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Post by emperorsuperbus on Feb 25, 2021 23:01:25 GMT
I understand your view but, in that process we had seen the manager get rid of the deadwood and those mercenaries who were taking a wage and had no interest in the pride of the shirt. We had wholesale changes and, very much, had OUR Rovers back. I see it that , under WAQ, we have not seen evolution but have gone back to precisely what we were, prior to the relegation out of the EFL. I cannot see anything that has truly put us on course for better times and this fabled evolution. I see a club in very real crisis and with a board who would not even give any interviews with the new manager. As I see it, we are back to where we were, in the bad times but we have accumulated much more debt. Nice writing, Kp....I want to like and dislike it! Like the cynicism. Dislike that it might be true, or the elements of truth are high. My only point in this (and we're off direct topic of JB unfit to manage BR), is motives have been honourable, no matter what stage of desperation we've reached. And, what credible alternative do we have? ESB posted WAQ/MS/TW/JB out, but when politely asked whom in? No specific reply. Question left unanswered. no I did answer it. but is that the one with a lot of forced questions? Even so I answered. Not that I demand you go back and see that I did and have to apologise. I’m happy to answer again. there’s a lot of owners out there better than ours. I’d be happy with Milan Mandric, Ryan Reynolds. We don’t know who the next will be, but odds on it’s easily better because they can assemble a better team to manage us on and off field. And support that team better. More bang for buck and VFM (I am thinking how Accrington Stanley and Liverpool have recruited well to punch above outlay). But also to support employees better. It was obvious long before window opened we were short up front, Tis was right to grumble when the window closed. Ben Garner could be here now with us in a healthy position in table if they sat experienced guy on bench with him (like rookie trolls Lenny) because unlike Barton, Ben does have the glowing testimonials for coaching best out of young players. But also because if new owners hold a value set to be manager or lead in any capacity at this club you will benefit from have the leadership values Barton doesn’t have, we will be a better club. Because there is much more going on here than disgruntled fans, there’s long ongoing reasons for disgruntled fans. When managers are recruited we never have the impression there was a shortlist of applicants, it’s almost like it’s set up for us by agents, which means the interview process could be lacking. For example, if we are on bad run, confidence flooding away, can you turn it round, yes of course, how? |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 26, 2021 12:23:01 GMT
I understand your view but, in that process we had seen the manager get rid of the deadwood and those mercenaries who were taking a wage and had no interest in the pride of the shirt. We had wholesale changes and, very much, had OUR Rovers back. I see it that , under WAQ, we have not seen evolution but have gone back to precisely what we were, prior to the relegation out of the EFL. I cannot see anything that has truly put us on course for better times and this fabled evolution. I see a club in very real crisis and with a board who would not even give any interviews with the new manager. As I see it, we are back to where we were, in the bad times but we have accumulated much more debt. Nice writing, Kp....I want to like and dislike it! Like the cynicism. Dislike that it might be true, or the elements of truth are high. My only point in this (and we're off direct topic of JB unfit to manage BR), is motives have been honourable, no matter what stage of desperation we've reached. And, what credible alternative do we have? ESB posted WAQ/MS/TW/JB out, but when politely asked whom in? No specific reply. Question left unanswered. Firstly, Thank you. I just write what I see and feel. If being totally honest then I have not got past the family / Dwane for not investing in the team, after our second promotion. We have had some tents put up, a lick of paint in the bar and the training ground but we have also torn apart a fairly solid squad and now have a truly diverse bunch of players, who it seems are not good enough or lack experience to compete at this level. This has all the hallmarks of the squad that Campbell got relegated with and maybe even worse. If we are lucky then the other teams, around us, will also continue to lose. I hate having to watch out for other teams scores. I may not like having the manager we have but I think it would have been hard work to get anyone, who is genuinely decent, into the building. As for sincerity ? I was never a fan and was warning others not to post the silly stuff about wealth, on other social media platforms. My biggest worry is that we slide down and out, again and then our owner calls it a day. At least with NH , there were other and significant shareholders so it would have needed agreement. We are now at the beck and call of one man. I hope he doesn’t let us down. IF we stay up then we will need the type of change that occurred under DC. We just can’t go on with the squad we have. Have a decent weekend my friend. All the best to all |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 26, 2021 14:43:04 GMT
Well guys and girls it all starts and ends with Wael.
And while we can all muse over changes, the key to it all is the fella pulling the purse strings. What are you gonna do? Yep, credit for names mentioned. Are they really
Wael appears to outside to appoint directors based on merit, TG has brought much revenue/sponsorship and corporate funds into the club....TW before this season appeared to source some decent players JCH amongst others, and he seems happy with his work. For instance, Mark Little aside, everyone of GC signing made valuable contribution. TW oversaw this..
MS whether you like him or not is a CEO and I can see a need for the role. Someone has to be chief of stay to day backroom staff and it makes sense to have someone from a financial background.
JB is just the current fella taking responsibility for playing and coaching staff.... there'll be another along in a couple of years max, probably alot earlier. Since this forum was created and before, there hasn't been a single manager at some point has divided the fan base with opinions..
End of the day, there's not much here to see.
Higgs unforgivably sleptwalked us out the league with promises of watertight b0ll0cks and treated fans with contempt ...Wael has bought into a very saleable product and made us better today than when he first walked in with backroom professionalism and more revenue generating ideas and training facilities.
It might not be perfect or ideal, there have been mistakes along the way, but I think we're better off than in 2014...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 15:47:13 GMT
Well guys and girls it all starts and ends with Wael. And while we can all muse over changes, the key to it all is the fella pulling the purse strings. What are you gonna do? Yep, credit for names mentioned. Are they really Wael appears to outside to appoint directors based on merit, TG has brought much revenue/sponsorship and corporate funds into the club....TW before this season appeared to source some decent players JCH amongst others, and he seems happy with his work. For instance, Mark Little aside, everyone of GC signing made valuable contribution. TW oversaw this.. MS whether you like him or not is a CEO and I can see a need for the role. Someone has to be chief of stay to day backroom staff and it makes sense to have someone from a financial background. JB is just the current fella taking responsibility for playing and coaching staff.... there'll be another along in a couple of years max, probably alot earlier. Since this forum was created and before, there hasn't been a single manager at some point has divided the fan base with opinions.. End of the day, there's not much here to see. Higgs unforgivably sleptwalked us out the league with promises of watertight b0ll0cks and treated fans with contempt ...Wael has bought into a very saleable product and made us better today than when he first walked in with backroom professionalism and more revenue generating ideas and training facilities. It might not be perfect or ideal, there have been mistakes along the way, but I think we're better off than in 2014... Possibly giving Wael too much credit there. Because he has written off the debts people have blithely written off the fact that he was the one who ran the debt up in the first place being a truly incompetent owner. Widdrington for his part might have put some lipstick on the pig by getting some money in for JCH but all other players signed under his watch that have left the club are now playing in the league below. Many Rovers fans have also argued we were lucky to be in 3rd under Coughlan and would have got found out in the second half of the season. So that’s a lot of money spent by president and DOF *not* to be in the hunt for promotion at the business end. In fact, it’s a total waste. Imagine what John Coleman at Accrington could do with the money that Rovers wasted. All that money spent standing still in league one. The only positive attribute Wael seems to bring to the table is that he’s got deep pockets, he doesn’t seem to have displayed any acumen for any other part of running a football club. It leaves me feeling very uneasy that we are at the mercy of a single owner and his whim’s, especially one who seems easily seduced by novelty and celebrity. I’ve wondered very early on if his declarations of being a Gashead and decision to own a football club wasn’t driven by some sort of vanity project to give him some status in the game and the signing of Barton and his promotion as well as the instagram stuff has done nothing to dis-abuse me of that idea |
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Post by trymer on Feb 26, 2021 16:16:01 GMT
Well guys and girls it all starts and ends with Wael. And while we can all muse over changes, the key to it all is the fella pulling the purse strings. What are you gonna do? Yep, credit for names mentioned. Are they really Wael appears to outside to appoint directors based on merit, TG has brought much revenue/sponsorship and corporate funds into the club....TW before this season appeared to source some decent players JCH amongst others, and he seems happy with his work. For instance, Mark Little aside, everyone of GC signing made valuable contribution. TW oversaw this.. MS whether you like him or not is a CEO and I can see a need for the role. Someone has to be chief of stay to day backroom staff and it makes sense to have someone from a financial background. JB is just the current fella taking responsibility for playing and coaching staff.... there'll be another along in a couple of years max, probably alot earlier. Since this forum was created and before, there hasn't been a single manager at some point has divided the fan base with opinions.. End of the day, there's not much here to see. Higgs unforgivably sleptwalked us out the league with promises of watertight b0ll0cks and treated fans with contempt ...Wael has bought into a very saleable product and made us better today than when he first walked in with backroom professionalism and more revenue generating ideas and training facilities. It might not be perfect or ideal, there have been mistakes along the way, but I think we're better off than in 2014... Possibly giving Wael too much credit there. Because he has written off the debts people have blithely written off the fact that he was the one who ran the debt up in the first place being a truly incompetent owner. Widdrington for his part might have put some lipstick on the pig by getting some money in for JCH but all other players signed under his watch that have left the club are now playing in the league below. Many Rovers fans have also argued we were lucky to be in 3rd under Coughlan and would have got found out in the second half of the season. So that’s a lot of money spent by president and DOF *not* to be in the hunt for promotion at the business end. In fact, it’s a total waste. Imagine what John Coleman at Accrington could do with the money that Rovers wasted. All that money spent standing still in league one. The only positive attribute Wael seems to bring to the table is that he’s got deep pockets, he doesn’t seem to have displayed any acumen for any other part of running a football club. It leaves me feeling very uneasy that we are at the mercy of a single owner and his whim’s, especially one who seems easily seduced by novelty and celebrity. I’ve wondered very early on if his declarations of being a Gashead and decision to own a football club wasn’t driven by some sort of vanity project to give him some status in the game and the signing of Barton and his promotion as well as the instagram stuff has done nothing to dis-abuse me of that idea Exactly and if this lot want to recoup their money where will a future buyer be found ? |
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Post by swissgas on Feb 26, 2021 17:30:30 GMT
Well guys and girls it all starts and ends with Wael. I agree with the highlighted bit  Knowing that figures bore people I don't want to dwell on them but in 2014 Rovers were losing 566 000 pa, the club owners were owed 4.1 million and the bank 1 million. Today Rovers are probably losing about 4 million pa and the Dwane Sports loan must be back up to around the 10 million mark. If you want to believe that our current football team, a dilapidated stadium and a modest half finished training ground are signs of success then that's fine. But the figures don't lie and in financial terms Wael, Martyn and Tom have done a poor job and we are much worse off than we were in 2014. Many fans still believe Wael is on the right track and will continue finding the cash to fund Rovers indefinitely. I remember the Bristol Post (without giving any specific detail) once came up with a figure of 400 million for the Al-Qadi family's wealth and on one occasion Gashead 81 suggested the amount of 100 million for what he thought Wael might be worth. So if that is the case, and Wael is prepared to commit all his assets to Rovers, we can look forward to another 25 years of existence at the present rate. But my question is this. If Wael is worth that much why has he not acquired some land and built Rovers a stadium in the past five years. Why is he allowing the cash to drain out year after year while the fans have to endure third world facilities and a very poor standard of football ? It seems a very strange thing to do if you have such resources at your disposal ? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 17:48:34 GMT
Knowing that figures bore people I don't want to dwell on them but... 'but...' oh, that's very funny! |
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Post by swissgas on Feb 26, 2021 17:55:43 GMT
Knowing that figures bore people I don't want to dwell on them but... 'but...' oh, that's very funny! A full financial analysis is available on my private subscriber service ducky  |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 26, 2021 19:47:22 GMT
Well guys and girls it all starts and ends with Wael. And while we can all muse over changes, the key to it all is the fella pulling the purse strings. What are you gonna do? Yep, credit for names mentioned. Are they really Wael appears to outside to appoint directors based on merit, TG has brought much revenue/sponsorship and corporate funds into the club....TW before this season appeared to source some decent players JCH amongst others, and he seems happy with his work. For instance, Mark Little aside, everyone of GC signing made valuable contribution. TW oversaw this.. MS whether you like him or not is a CEO and I can see a need for the role. Someone has to be chief of stay to day backroom staff and it makes sense to have someone from a financial background. JB is just the current fella taking responsibility for playing and coaching staff.... there'll be another along in a couple of years max, probably alot earlier. Since this forum was created and before, there hasn't been a single manager at some point has divided the fan base with opinions.. End of the day, there's not much here to see. Higgs unforgivably sleptwalked us out the league with promises of watertight b0ll0cks and treated fans with contempt ...Wael has bought into a very saleable product and made us better today than when he first walked in with backroom professionalism and more revenue generating ideas and training facilities. It might not be perfect or ideal, there have been mistakes along the way, but I think we're better off than in 2014... Possibly giving Wael too much credit there. Because he has written off the debts people have blithely written off the fact that he was the one who ran the debt up in the first place being a truly incompetent owner. Widdrington for his part might have put some lipstick on the pig by getting some money in for JCH but all other players signed under his watch that have left the club are now playing in the league below. Many Rovers fans have also argued we were lucky to be in 3rd under Coughlan and would have got found out in the second half of the season. So that’s a lot of money spent by president and DOF *not* to be in the hunt for promotion at the business end. In fact, it’s a total waste. Imagine what John Coleman at Accrington could do with the money that Rovers wasted. All that money spent standing still in league one. The only positive attribute Wael seems to bring to the table is that he’s got deep pockets, he doesn’t seem to have displayed any acumen for any other part of running a football club. It leaves me feeling very uneasy that we are at the mercy of a single owner and his whim’s, especially one who seems easily seduced by novelty and celebrity. I’ve wondered very early on if his declarations of being a Gashead and decision to own a football club wasn’t driven by some sort of vanity project to give him some status in the game and the signing of Barton and his promotion as well as the instagram stuff has done nothing to dis-abuse me of that idea In total agreement. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 26, 2021 19:52:22 GMT
Well guys and girls it all starts and ends with Wael. I agree with the highlighted bit Knowing that figures bore people I don't want to dwell on them but in 2014 Rovers were losing 566 000 pa, the club owners were owed 4.1 million and the bank 1 million. Today Rovers are probably losing about 4 million pa and the Dwane Sports loan must be back up to around the 10 million mark. If you want to believe that our current football team, a dilapidated stadium and a modest half finished training ground are signs of success then that's fine. But the figures don't lie and in financial terms Wael, Martyn and Tom have done a poor job and we are much worse off than we were in 2014. Many fans still believe Wael is on the right track and will continue finding the cash to fund Rovers indefinitely. I remember the Bristol Post (without giving any specific detail) once came up with a figure of 400 million for the Al-Qadi family's wealth and on one occasion Gashead 81 suggested the amount of 100 million for what he thought Wael might be worth. So if that is the case, and Wael is prepared to commit all his assets to Rovers, we can look forward to another 25 years of existence at the present rate. But my question is this. If Wael is worth that much why has he not acquired some land and built Rovers a stadium in the past five years. Why is he allowing the cash to drain out year after year while the fans have to endure third world facilities and a very poor standard of football ? It seems a very strange thing to do if you have such resources at your disposal ? Careful swissgas people don’t like the truth |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 27, 2021 9:06:58 GMT
Well guys and girls it all starts and ends with Wael. I agree with the highlighted bit Knowing that figures bore people I don't want to dwell on them but in 2014 Rovers were losing 566 000 pa, the club owners were owed 4.1 million and the bank 1 million. Today Rovers are probably losing about 4 million pa and the Dwane Sports loan must be back up to around the 10 million mark. If you want to believe that our current football team, a dilapidated stadium and a modest half finished training ground are signs of success then that's fine. But the figures don't lie and in financial terms Wael, Martyn and Tom have done a poor job and we are much worse off than we were in 2014. Many fans still believe Wael is on the right track and will continue finding the cash to fund Rovers indefinitely. I remember the Bristol Post (without giving any specific detail) once came up with a figure of 400 million for the Al-Qadi family's wealth and on one occasion Gashead 81 suggested the amount of 100 million for what he thought Wael might be worth. So if that is the case, and Wael is prepared to commit all his assets to Rovers, we can look forward to another 25 years of existence at the present rate. But my question is this. If Wael is worth that much why has he not acquired some land and built Rovers a stadium in the past five years. Why is he allowing the cash to drain out year after year while the fans have to endure third world facilities and a very poor standard of football ? It seems a very strange thing to do if you have such resources at your disposal ? Fair enough, Swiss....I bow down to your better knowledge. Is there such a thing as "football inflation" - and I don't mean Stefan Payne or Gary Kenneth - what I mean is debt, finances, transfer fees, wages etc has gotten disproportionately high in last 10 years and increased to the size of implosion for some clubs? As for the strange thing to do if you have funds, I would agree. Maybe Wael is estranged geographically and being poorly advised? I have no idea I'm trying to throw it out there.. I thought investment bankers were good at spending other people's money, not their own? |
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 27, 2021 10:19:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 10:40:49 GMT
I started from a place of loving the sound of Al Qadi caution, politeness, dignity, moderation, and communication.
When the Al Qadis took over the club, after DC's Rovers had been promoted back into the football league and were in the process of building a campaign for promotion to our home division; that season ended with many of us feeling the most positive and excited we had been towards Bristol Rovers for a long time, ever in the case of younger or newer supporters.
Attendances over 10,000 have always mattered to me too, and the Al Qadis, later Wael Al Qadi, did make some minor improvements to communications, commerce, and the ground's interior.
DC resigning from Walsall during our latest twice-yearly management recruitment cycle, worsened by Harry Degg's fake news about his return to Bristol, gave me hope that we might be spared the social media celebrity and criminal psychopathy of Joey Barton.
I don't know that DC returning would have worked out very well, but I don't think the club's treatment of the last manager (and possibly his predecessors too) will have given them a queue of fine managers holding application forms. If I were a promising league manager, Rovers wouldn't be a club I'd trust as an employer.
It would, however, have brought us together somewhat, rather than tearing us apart.
Watching Rovers trying to bore their way out of the football league under Ray Graydon never made me feel like this. Nick Higgs turning Rovers into a laughing stock twice-yearly sacking managers until relegation until floating an appeal against this relegation while litigating against a supermarket giant who no longer wanted to buy the Memorial Ground... still I never turned my back.
Only Al Qadi showing that the cautious, polite, dignified, and moderate impression I had admired was nothing more than a mask, in fact being a vainglorious stargazer so blinded by the cult of celebrity he considers a boastful convicted thug awaiting further trial for knocking a tooth from another football manager an acceptable leader of Bristol Rovers Football Club, only this has disgusted me enough to give it all up for now.
The Emporer was incorrect to say that Barton's support of Corbyn was a relevant complaint against his appointment. But he did stumble on a point. Barton has something in common with Corbyn, Trump, Morgan, Farage, Sarkar, and so many other social media celebrities. They are famous, not for being any good, not for being decent or trustworthy, not for competence, not for wisdom, but only for being 'big', and for a vacuous vitriol they have marketed effectively to solicit the clicks and internet traffic of a credulous audience who read neither books nor even newspapers, but only their own echo-chambers of online news feeds.
I certainly don't think the United States should ever elect a Trump figure again, nor should the Labour party ever elect a Corbyn figure again. Bristol Rovers should never appoint a Barton figure again, and Al Qadi should hang his head in shame for having done so.
I hope their time is passing. Decency and dignity can rise again.
It's such a shame I'm writing this on a Bristol Rovers forum. Many of you think I'm a idiot for taking this position, according to your insults above. Good riddance, you may say. But the feeling is not mutual. I don't want rid of you at all. I cannot support Joey Barton's Rovers, but I don't criticise you for doing so. I look forward to the day we have a board and most importantly a manager, whether successful or failing, whom we can all support without holding our nose.
I don't want to see Rovers relegated, but I do want to see Joey Barton's Rovers lose as many games as possible so that he goes. If that means the fall of Al Qadi too, then so be it.
If Rovers win today, then I hope active supporters enjoy it, but if Rovers losing means we can all support Rovers together without compromising any of our fundamental principles, then that's fine by me.
So come on the Shrews, and come on the October takeover.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Feb 27, 2021 10:51:54 GMT
I started from a place of loving the sound of Al Qadi caution, politeness, dignity, moderation, and communication. When the Al Qadis took over the club, after DC's Rovers had been promoted back into the football league and were in the process of building a campaign for promotion to our home division; that season ended with many of us feeling the most positive and excited we had been towards Bristol Rovers for a long time, ever in the case of younger or newer supporters. Attendances over 10,000 have always mattered to me too, and the Al Qadis, later Wael Al Qadi, did make some minor improvements to communications, commerce, and the ground's interior. DC resigning from Walsall during our latest twice-yearly management recruitment cycle, worsened by Harry Degg's fake news about his return to Bristol, gave me hope that we might be spared the social media celebrity and criminal psychopathy of Joey Barton. I don't know that DC returning would have worked out very well, but I don't think the club's treatment of the last manager (and possibly his predecessors too) will have given them a queue of fine managers holding application forms. If I were a promising league manager, Rovers wouldn't be a club I'd trust as an employer. It would, however, have brought us together somewhat, rather than tearing us apart. Watching Rovers trying to bore their way out of the football league under Ray Graydon never made me feel like this. Nick Higgs turning Rovers into a laughing stock twice-yearly sacking managers until relegation until floating an appeal against this relegation while litigating against a supermarket giant who no longer wanted to buy the Memorial Ground... still I never turned my back. Only Al Qadi showing that the cautious, polite, dignified, and moderate impression I had admired was nothing more than a mask, in fact being a vainglorious stargazer so blinded by the cult of celebrity he considers a boastful convicted thug awaiting further trial for knocking a tooth from another football manager an acceptable leader of Bristol Rovers Football Club, only this has disgusted me enough to give it all up for now. The Emporer was incorrect to say that Barton's support of Corbyn was a relevant complaint against his appointment. But he did stumble on a point. Barton has something in common with Corbyn, Trump, Morgan, Farage, Sarkar, and so many other social media celebrities. They are famous, not for being any good, not for being decent or trustworthy, not for competence, not for wisdom, but only for being 'big', and for a vacuous vitriol they have marketed effectively to solicit the clicks and internet traffic of a credulous audience who read neither books nor even newspapers, but only their own echo-chambers of online news feeds. I certainly don't think the United States should ever elect a Trump figure again, nor should the Labour party ever elect a Corbyn figure again. Bristol Rovers should never appoint a Barton figure again, and Al Qadi should hang his head in shame for having done so. I hope their time is passing. Decency and dignity can rise again. It's such a shame I'm writing this on a Bristol Rovers forum. Many of you think I'm a idiot for taking this position, according to your insults above. Good riddance, you may say. But the feeling is not mutual. I don't want rid of you at all. I cannot support Joey Barton's Rovers, but I don't criticise you for doing so. I look forward to the day we have a board and most importantly a manager, whether successful or failing, whom we can all support without holding our nose. I don't want to see Rovers relegated, but I do want to see Joey Barton's Rovers lose as many games as possible so that he goes. If that means the fall of Al Qadi too, then so be it. If Rovers win today, then I hope active supporters enjoy it, but if Rovers losing means we can all support Rovers together without compromising any of our fundamental principles, then that's fine by me. So come on the Shrews, and come on the October takeover. You are no idiot Shoveler, not even a dafty duck!. You are not alone with these thoughts. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Feb 27, 2021 11:34:15 GMT
Knowing that figures bore people I don't want to dwell on them but ........(1)But my question is this. (2) If Wael is worth that much why has he not acquired some land and built Rovers a stadium in the past five years. Why is he allowing the cash to drain out year after year while the fans have to endure third world facilities and a very poor standard of football ? It seems a very strange thing to do if you have such resources at your disposal ? Swiss I must admit I did smile when I saw what you wrote at (1). I am sure people understand how you feel about the finances by now and your points are well made. But I feel repetition will nullify your points. We should see next month how it is going with the release of the next set of accounts. I am sure people will then appreciate your analysis. With regard to (2) how do we know he hasn't tried and been frustrated. I don't know either but we do know he has been approached by at least one syndicate and been involved on at least one site. We also know that the amount of available appropriate green space is limited. Perhaps what we need is for WAQ to be available, people seem to think he spends all his time in Jordan (I don't know for definite) and perhaps for interested people to come up with some options to get to other boards members if that's the case. Regards |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 11:44:06 GMT
You are no idiot Shoveler, not even a dafty duck!. You are not alone with these thoughts. When you have one of the administrators of this Bristol Rovers forum, considering the enthusiasm running the thing must require, opening today's matchday thread with simply '£10 saved', you know that the club have made a terrible mistake. When I told the elder duck (who lives on the Frome not the Lee) that the new manager was Joey Barton, he could not believe it. The duckling just can't understand why a football club is allowed to employ such convicts. Three generations, cruelly separated by this awful pandemic, all united in disgust towards Al Qadi's fake smile absent decency, and his latest recruit's criminal violence. For shame, Mr Al Qadi. Your reputation is in tatters. The most expert on here have long doubted your competence. Now many of the rest of us know your vanity and your shame. When you sack Barton, for if there's one thing we know about you is that you can sack your own appointments without scruple, you will have a long road to regain any kind of respect from the three of us, and I assume many others. I'll say it before your apologists do: it's your club, and you can do as you will. |
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Post by lostinspace on Feb 27, 2021 11:56:23 GMT
You are no idiot Shoveler, not even a dafty duck!. You are not alone with these thoughts. When you have one of the administrators of this Bristol Rovers forum, considering the enthusiasm running the thing must require, opening today's matchday thread with simply '£10 saved', you know that the club have made a terrible mistake. When I told the elder duck (who lives on the Frome not the Lee) that the new manager was Joey Barton, he could not believe it. The duckling just can't understand why a football club is allowed to employ such convicts. Three generations, cruelly separated by this awful pandemic, all united in disgust towards Al Qadi's fake smile absent decency, and his latest recruit's criminal violence. For shame, Mr Al Qadi. Your reputation is in tatters. The most expert on here have long doubted your competence. Now many of the rest of us know your vanity and your shame. When you sack Barton, for if there's one thing we know about you is that you can sack your own appointments without scruple, you will have a long road to regain any kind of respect from the three of us, and I assume many others. I'll say it before your apologists do: it's your club, and you can do as you will. and as your last sentence will imply, that is exactly what he is doing,,,,,,, great shame ,just cannot understand where he is going with this appointment ,,,, as for what he has "ploughed into " the new training ground set up did imply goodwill and a lot of££ ,this latest "transaction" has blown away an awful lot of faith that was trusted to him by us supporters ;;;;; and .... as an aside, 24 of your relatives have been spotted lurking around the Cheddar Reservoir of late |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 12:08:06 GMT
I started from a place of loving the sound of Al Qadi caution, politeness, dignity, moderation, and communication. When the Al Qadis took over the club, after DC's Rovers had been promoted back into the football league and were in the process of building a campaign for promotion to our home division; that season ended with many of us feeling the most positive and excited we had been towards Bristol Rovers for a long time, ever in the case of younger or newer supporters. Attendances over 10,000 have always mattered to me too, and the Al Qadis, later Wael Al Qadi, did make some minor improvements to communications, commerce, and the ground's interior. DC resigning from Walsall during our latest twice-yearly management recruitment cycle, worsened by Harry Degg's fake news about his return to Bristol, gave me hope that we might be spared the social media celebrity and criminal psychopathy of Joey Barton. I don't know that DC returning would have worked out very well, but I don't think the club's treatment of the last manager (and possibly his predecessors too) will have given them a queue of fine managers holding application forms. If I were a promising league manager, Rovers wouldn't be a club I'd trust as an employer. It would, however, have brought us together somewhat, rather than tearing us apart. Watching Rovers trying to bore their way out of the football league under Ray Graydon never made me feel like this. Nick Higgs turning Rovers into a laughing stock twice-yearly sacking managers until relegation until floating an appeal against this relegation while litigating against a supermarket giant who no longer wanted to buy the Memorial Ground... still I never turned my back. Only Al Qadi showing that the cautious, polite, dignified, and moderate impression I had admired was nothing more than a mask, in fact being a vainglorious stargazer so blinded by the cult of celebrity he considers a boastful convicted thug awaiting further trial for knocking a tooth from another football manager an acceptable leader of Bristol Rovers Football Club, only this has disgusted me enough to give it all up for now. The Emporer was incorrect to say that Barton's support of Corbyn was a relevant complaint against his appointment. But he did stumble on a point. Barton has something in common with Corbyn, Trump, Morgan, Farage, Sarkar, and so many other social media celebrities. They are famous, not for being any good, not for being decent or trustworthy, not for competence, not for wisdom, but only for being 'big', and for a vacuous vitriol they have marketed effectively to solicit the clicks and internet traffic of a credulous audience who read neither books nor even newspapers, but only their own echo-chambers of online news feeds. I certainly don't think the United States should ever elect a Trump figure again, nor should the Labour party ever elect a Corbyn figure again. Bristol Rovers should never appoint a Barton figure again, and Al Qadi should hang his head in shame for having done so. I hope their time is passing. Decency and dignity can rise again. It's such a shame I'm writing this on a Bristol Rovers forum. Many of you think I'm a idiot for taking this position, according to your insults above. Good riddance, you may say. But the feeling is not mutual. I don't want rid of you at all. I cannot support Joey Barton's Rovers, but I don't criticise you for doing so. I look forward to the day we have a board and most importantly a manager, whether successful or failing, whom we can all support without holding our nose. I don't want to see Rovers relegated, but I do want to see Joey Barton's Rovers lose as many games as possible so that he goes. If that means the fall of Al Qadi too, then so be it. If Rovers win today, then I hope active supporters enjoy it, but if Rovers losing means we can all support Rovers together without compromising any of our fundamental principles, then that's fine by me. So come on the Shrews, and come on the October takeover. This deserves to be kept on the current page that people may be reading. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 12:16:53 GMT
So, apart from a the physical stadium, (which is now tied up as security) and which has never really felt like 'home' or a place that's special in the same was as Eastville and Twerton were, and the design of the shirts, what exactly is left of the Bristol Rovers that Wael walked in to 5 years ago?
He's even managed to take away our dignity.
That's quite some achievement Wael. Remember to mention that you've employed Barton and exactly who he is to Ozil, or Will Smith, or maybe Tom Hanks or anybody else that you meet in an airport who is famous.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 27, 2021 12:29:03 GMT
So, apart from a the physical stadium, (which is now tied up as security) and which has never really felt like 'home' or a place that's special in the same was as Eastville and Twerton were, and the design of the shirts, what exactly is left of the Bristol Rovers that Wael walked in to 5 years ago? He's even managed to take away our dignity. That's quite some achievement Wael. Remember to mention that you've employed Barton and exactly who he is to Ozil, or Will Smith, or maybe Tom Hanks or anybody else that you meet in an airport who is famous. Satan's grotto? |
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