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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 5:58:14 GMT
I don't know Darlo, but I think some of you do. Username @ gasgirl's display name is now Darlo, but there was alao something like Dave Hudd's Cousin and something else a few days ago. Darlo's not quite as I remember, but then Barton's Rovers seem to be affecting us all... severely.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Feb 25, 2021 7:05:16 GMT
Quite a few of the regular posters packing it in recently, It is sad to see. Quite a few feisty new posters joining and getting stuck into the remaining posters left on the guzzler, I'm keeping a low profile, I need to survive this man made catastrophe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 10:29:13 GMT
More of an issue for me epping, I don't think this is the same Darlo that we already have on here. If you can't have 2 user names then maybe we need a similar rule to prevent confusion with users having the same name but with different spacing / capitals etc? Oh yes it is! The photo on the left is me on my 76th birthday last September 2nd. I was born in 1944. I have a daughter and three grandchildren. Unfortunately, for me, I live in Darlington, Co. Durham. I am 6 feet tall and I weigh a healthy 13 stones. I went to St. Brendan's College, Clifton, Bristol, in the 1950s. I am the son of Irish immigrants. Oh yes. I decided on a radical use of ALL capitals for GAS in darloGas. Hope that's ok with you. When I return (hopefully) to live in Bristol, I'll contact you for advice, if I decide to change my user name to something Bristolian. Jeez! (If you see this Terry, give me a break) Blimey, relax. The point was that there appeared to be a bit of a difference between the writing style we are used to from you and your most recent posts, nothing more, nothing less. I thought that someone was using a similar name and that may lead to confusion. Sorry if that caused any offence or confusion, that honestly wasn't the intention.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 10:45:32 GMT
Glad to see the old darloGAS back, although his @ being gasgirl still rather puzzles me. Fair play for full disclosure. In that spirit, the picture of the Shoveler drake in my avatar is not really me. My green feathers are a little more vivid, and my bill a little more black and shiny, of course.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 25, 2021 12:00:12 GMT
How sad, I welcome Joey Barton, and hope with all my heart he keeps us up. Cannot believe just how sanctimonious and judgmental you sound. Think it's best I get back to gas chat, I am obviously not not virtuous enough for this place. Thank god - oh to be perfect !!! Utg Oh Ally. Judgmental, me? He inserted a lit cigar into someone's eye. He beat up a sixteen-year-old child. I dislike judgmental people as much as the next man, but I can be a little judgmental about the criminal violence and bullying of a moderate-functioning psychopath, and about his suitability to lead the football club I take my duckling to see, can't I? You can go back to Gaschat if you want to, of course, but opposing opinions are welcome here, Sir. I hope you don't mind me editing your spelling, grammar, and punctuation. I can be judgmental about this, too. Fancy running away from one persons opinion. Fancy running away from... an internet duck! I wouldn’t - it’s full of morons spouting ludicrous crap about Rovers. If you want a bit more balance and sense than Gaschat I can recommend OTIB You wag! Not at all - just the above post as well as being (I think) quite indicative of the general feeling on this forum (apologies if I’m incorrect on that, but most of the posts seem negative. Just summed up that horribly judgmental reactionary type of opinion, that I for one cannot tolerate. That's a bit intolerant. And judgmental. You're going to tire of me pretty quick. Please take my reply about Gaschat/OTIB with the humour that was intended and keep posting on here. Different opinions are welcome and we’re all Gasheads at the end of the day. I got it, @vlad , but it was a subtle one. I’m not adverse to humour, but cannot cope with so say gasheads who say they would rather not support the club with Barton in charge, good riddance, u don’t pick and choose, if you are a true supporter! You can cope. You are coping, just. But I cannot support the club being disgraced by a violent criminal psychopath. I was able to support the club through every other rubbish manager I disliked. I have drawn only two lines: boycotting the Football League Trophy while Rovers are expected to play higher division's under twenty-ones teams, and Joey (violent criminal psychopath) Barton. But good riddance to me, and everyone else not prepared to accept this? That's a bit rich, Sir. If hes as bad as he's made out to be how come the Guardian newspaper have done a big article on him? That's because it is news. Not all news is good. But you knew that really. Come on. If you want to continue giving money to, and supporting a Club that has appointed a convicted violent criminal as manager, that's down to you. It's a free country. Personally I've decided to call time on it until that manager and Wael go forth and multiply. I don't 'have' to support something I find so alien to my core values. So I think you'll find I can pick and chose. Because it's a free country. I'll be back (properly) when my Rovers is back. That's it. They are not exclusively YOURS bye . Don’t come back if we hit a running streak - remember your Principles, unbelievable utg Yeah, Uncle Eppers. Bristol Rovers are not your exclusive PROPERTY bye. Stop saying they're only YOURS bye. You have to SHARE bye. Oh Ally. If you think our Eppers is some kind of flip-flopping glory-hunter, then you REALLY haven't been paying ATTENTION bye. Low-hanging fruit, I know; sorry mate. There are usually two sides to everything... Yet you can only see one side? Barton is an easy target for the press... How the print media persecute violent criminals is appalling, right? What do we want? Violent thug rights! When do we want them? Now, or we'll smash your face in! Maybe if u had had his upbringing and experiences u would b no angel 2 . If my upbringing and experiences had been as good as Joey Barton's I would have had the decency to show a little gratitude for how well things had worked out for me, despite having assaulted so many people. Also, did you tap out 'u would b no angel 2' on a Nokia phone from the 1990s? Omg ... I’m txting not writing a bloody thesis ! For this, may we be truly grateful. Don’t tempt me into “ street talk “ .... mmmm at least I wouldn’t get a reply 😃 Utg Okay. I'll try to avoid doing so. Nice to have you back even if I can't back you up on this occasion, For the Toteend4 withdrawing our support is not an option. With more than 200 years collectively following the Gas. Over the years, we have not always liked the some of the players, managers and owners but our support of Bristol Rovers is unwavering. Interceptor, my dear friend. I have always supported Bristol Rovers throughout awful players, managers, and directors I have disliked. I can't think of one other manager that beings the name of Bristol Rovers into such disgrace that I would withdraw support. Our last four managers have all had a number of fans withholding their support during their respective tenures. This appointment is off the scale for dividing opinion and this time it's not so much the expression that ''managers come and go ' if JB is unable to halt the slump, then it will be more of a case of 'Scum and Go!' The sooner, the better. Then we can all be together at the Memorial Ground, once this poxy virus is in full retreat. Good health to you, old mate. You would think more “Wayne and Tracey “ - but that is the dichotomy , that is Joey Barton , don’t judge a book by its cover ! Utg What is it that you think 'dichotomy' means? Have we met before, Ally? Date Registered: Feb 6, 2021 at 6:44pm I love you, Emperor, but I do not always understand you. There are many who have come from his background who have not been violent and have achieved great things. Sorry but I don’t think that’s anything to use as a way of absolving him Spot on, that. I’m not trying to absolve him , I am not judging him , I think I said to the poster “ you may well have overcome those obstacles , and risen above them , try some humility . ( words to that effect ). I just personally feel while he is atrovers , he should be judged on what he does here . He has not murdered anyone he is not a rapist , he is not a wife beater , the list goes on . Just give him a chance , as he said in his interview , and boy hes got one hell of a job on his hands with this bunch ! Utg Sorry that I've given up on correcting the quotes, Ally; but there's just not enough time. I have not murdered anyone, I am not a rapist, nor a wife-beater, it's true. That you find these (in particular) beyond the pale is to your credit, and if any football manager was found to be these things, then I would be more against him than even Joey Barton. But while Joey Barton may not be quite this bad, he is a violent criminal who boasts about it, and an unacceptable face of Bristol Rovers Football Club. I cannot take my duckling to Rovers (or follow via streaming and merchandise) while he represents the club, and I will argue against his appointment. Barton also supports the anti Semitic, pro IRA and Britain hating Jeremy Corbyn... You were doing so well, Emperor, but this one is just silly. That's not really true of Jeremy Corbyn, and even if it was this would not be the worst thing Joey Barton's done ever. Let's be thoughtful about this. You're better than that. I have read the IRA comments and IMO he was stupid to get drawn into it. He states that he has sympathies with the IRA as that's who he would have backed if he had lived there but I have spoken to many people who live there, my extended family live there and most just wanted peace. It's amazing how ignorant people are with some claiming it to be a religious war. Thanks, axegas and @isaachunt . Sanity prevails. He's also a five-star fool. And you're better than this. Please can we disagree without the name calling? Oldie was wrong to call Bambi a fool. I was joking when I called Spencer a fool. Please stop calling each other fools. It is time this thread was shut down time 2 give it a rest all the anti Barton crowd u r pathetic Why on earth should an anti-Barton thread be shut down, or an anti-Barton crowd be give it a rest? There is plenty of room for the opposite opinion. Also, are we pathetic? Why? Frankly, this is the only thread I write on, so if you shut this thread down then, you shut me up. If that's what you want, then have the balls to say so, Alan. Anyway this is getting off topic so I won’t say too much more on it but my point is just that, supporting Corbyn shouldn’t be a reason why Barton shouldn’t manage BRFC, there are plenty of those anyway. Aren't there just? Absolutely right. The beauty of this forum is that different views are tolerated on here and people can discuss Barton’s relative merits and the general direction of the club like adults. Amen, that's spot on, and let's do exactly that. The Guzzler's changing, isn't it though? Sorry. Innit, blud? Please don’t ever leave. Your final comment, to end your post just made me laugh cough my drink onto the screen 😂😂
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 25, 2021 12:01:48 GMT
After a day of reflection I'm done with it. We will just have to wait until June when either the courts and the EFL decide if he is free to manage Rovers. Time for another sabbatical. Stay safe one and all. I am very sorry to read this mate. Stay safe, enjoy your family and have as good a time as possible. I look forward to your return Julian or Jools
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 25, 2021 12:10:28 GMT
I don't think anyone needs an excuse to walk away, and I certainly hope that every last one of us returns as soon as the violent criminal social media celebrity is removed from office. On the former point, here are our last five managers: 5. DC, promoted from within to his first league manager's job. 4. GC, promoted from within to his first league manager's job. 3. BG, recruited externally as a fantasy project, but a failure. 2. PT2, recruited externally but not given time, so unassessed. 1. JB, recruited externally but unfit to manage Rovers. We were better off recruiting assistants and coaches, grooming them into eventual first-team managers, who know the players, the supporters, and the point of being at Bristol Rovers. Better off in what way? A big chunk of that time was non league and 4th division! Which we came out of in back to back promotions and had the best forward momentum I’ve known since Don Megson, who has torn that up and has us a laughing stock, paying off 2 managers and losing 3 x the money we were
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 25, 2021 12:28:10 GMT
Darlo - It is bad language aimed at other users on the platform which I have an issue with. If you have a problem with me editing your language - report it. I'd be happy to sit back and let the other mods judge. Naughty words with asterisks, I'd agee. Not my proudest moment. Sometimes emotions run high.
Hardly an isolated, "emotions run high"... #Trumpian If you can show other examples of bad language, with or without asterisks, by me, I'd be intrigued. Anyway. The chances of the owner of our Club seeing your 'emotional' outburst, is very slim. You must admit, there is an irony to my post about "faux-intellectualism"... I am sure the other place has plants, who pass on info. I’m now thinking there could be one or even two here.
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Post by The Concept on Feb 25, 2021 12:36:43 GMT
Glad to see the old darloGAS back, although his @ being gasgirl still rather puzzles me. Fair play for full disclosure. In that spirit, the picture of the Shoveler drake in my avatar is not really me. My green feathers are a little more vivid, and my bill a little more black and shiny, of course. I had Shoveler Duck Curry once ... the food was lovely, but the bill was massive. ( ok, nicked from a Pelican or Toucan Curry, but you do have a rather large bill too).
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Post by MisterSitter on Feb 25, 2021 12:55:21 GMT
Better off in what way? A big chunk of that time was non league and 4th division! Which we came out of in back to back promotions and had the best forward momentum I’ve known since Don Megson, who has torn that up and has us a laughing stock, paying off 2 managers and losing 3 x the money we were Those 2 promotions were nice but kind of lose their edge when you take into account it was promotion from the lowest point we'd ever been. I see them more as righting wrongs than actual success.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 13:02:38 GMT
Which we came out of in back to back promotions and had the best forward momentum I’ve known since Don Megson, who has torn that up and has us a laughing stock, paying off 2 managers and losing 3 x the money we were Those 2 promotions were nice but kind of lose their edge when you take into account it was promotion from the lowest point we'd ever been. I see them more as righting wrongs than actual success. Not for me. Conference is full of ex league clubs who can’t get back out. The second promotion with largely the conference team was a massive achievement and we should know not to take that division for granted. 20 years ago we were first relegation from league 1. Most of that time we’ve been a poor league 2 side
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 25, 2021 13:05:10 GMT
Which we came out of in back to back promotions and had the best forward momentum I’ve known since Don Megson, who has torn that up and has us a laughing stock, paying off 2 managers and losing 3 x the money we were Those 2 promotions were nice but kind of lose their edge when you take into account it was promotion from the lowest point we'd ever been. I see them more as righting wrongs than actual success. I understand your view but, in that process we had seen the manager get rid of the deadwood and those mercenaries who were taking a wage and had no interest in the pride of the shirt. We had wholesale changes and, very much, had OUR Rovers back. I see it that , under WAQ, we have not seen evolution but have gone back to precisely what we were, prior to the relegation out of the EFL. I cannot see anything that has truly put us on course for better times and this fabled evolution. I see a club in very real crisis and with a board who would not even give any interviews with the new manager. As I see it, we are back to where we were, in the bad times but we have accumulated much more debt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 14:06:19 GMT
Those 2 promotions were nice but kind of lose their edge when you take into account it was promotion from the lowest point we'd ever been. I see them more as righting wrongs than actual success. I understand your view but, in that process we had seen the manager get rid of the deadwood and those mercenaries who were taking a wage and had no interest in the pride of the shirt. We had wholesale changes and, very much, had OUR Rovers back. I see it that , under WAQ, we have not seen evolution but have gone back to precisely what we were, prior to the relegation out of the EFL. I cannot see anything that has truly put us on course for better times and this fabled evolution. I see a club in very real crisis and with a board who would not even give any interviews with the new manager. As I see it, we are back to where we were, in the bad times but we have accumulated much more debt. Yeah it feels like we’re coasting at the moment. By coasting I mean taking no time for introspection after every bad decision, just pivot and do something different to what we were going to do last time. Eg we’ve gone from Garner to Barton via Tisdale between November and February. Just let that sink in for a moment. That in and of itself should scream “NOT GOT A f**kING CLUE” in big neon letters to anyone with an ounce of common sense let alone when you factor in 4 coaches belonging to 3 different managers and then what the board’s role is in all this. When you put it like that, it’s the categorical proof that Barton is still soft in the head in some way because why on earth would he take this job if he really has done due diligence on the squad and the owner and how the owner runs the club? By the time we are done with him the embarrassment and shame will have switched from Bristol Rovers to everyone wondering wtf has he done wrong to associate himself with this load of crap. In fact the beak may even find him guilty but let him go a free man as he has effectively been doing community work more degrading than sweeping streets just by sitting in the home dug out at the Mem for two months. This club is just a desperate mess in every way shape and form.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 14:12:26 GMT
Those 2 promotions were nice but kind of lose their edge when you take into account it was promotion from the lowest point we'd ever been. I see them more as righting wrongs than actual success. Not for me. Conference is full of ex league clubs who can’t get back out. The second promotion with largely the conference team was a massive achievement and we should know not to take that division for granted. 20 years ago we were first relegation from league 1. Most of that time we’ve been a poor league 2 side It’s rare for clubs to instantly bounce back from the conference, we could quite easily have turned into Wrexham and it was basically Clarkey who stopped that from happening. Doesn’t it make you wonder at how our recruitment worked back then? Okay we had an advantage as the club with pretty much the biggest budget in the conference but when you compare the squad that was shrewdly put together with a good mix of ability, heart and desire with the bunch of frauds assembled by Widdrington and Garner it’s like night and day. We proper “had it going on” back then. Great recruitment/scouting and a great manager, even a hapless owner couldn’t hold back Clarke’s momentum. We’ve still got a hapless owner now but our scouting has gone to the dogs and the owner wouldn’t know a good manager if it bit him on the arse.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 25, 2021 14:21:23 GMT
Those 2 promotions were nice but kind of lose their edge when you take into account it was promotion from the lowest point we'd ever been. I see them more as righting wrongs than actual success. I understand your view but, in that process we had seen the manager get rid of the deadwood and those mercenaries who were taking a wage and had no interest in the pride of the shirt. We had wholesale changes and, very much, had OUR Rovers back. I see it that , under WAQ, we have not seen evolution but have gone back to precisely what we were, prior to the relegation out of the EFL. I cannot see anything that has truly put us on course for better times and this fabled evolution. I see a club in very real crisis and with a board who would not even give any interviews with the new manager. As I see it, we are back to where we were, in the bad times but we have accumulated much more debt. Nice writing, Kp....I want to like and dislike it! Like the cynicism. Dislike that it might be true, or the elements of truth are high. My only point in this (and we're off direct topic of JB unfit to manage BR), is motives have been honourable, no matter what stage of desperation we've reached. And, what credible alternative do we have? ESB posted WAQ/MS/TW/JB out, but when politely asked whom in? No specific reply. Question left unanswered.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 16:18:30 GMT
I understand your view but, in that process we had seen the manager get rid of the deadwood and those mercenaries who were taking a wage and had no interest in the pride of the shirt. We had wholesale changes and, very much, had OUR Rovers back. I see it that , under WAQ, we have not seen evolution but have gone back to precisely what we were, prior to the relegation out of the EFL. I cannot see anything that has truly put us on course for better times and this fabled evolution. I see a club in very real crisis and with a board who would not even give any interviews with the new manager. As I see it, we are back to where we were, in the bad times but we have accumulated much more debt. Nice writing, Kp....I want to like and dislike it! Like the cynicism. Dislike that it might be true, or the elements of truth are high. My only point in this (and we're off direct topic of JB unfit to manage BR), is motives have been honourable, no matter what stage of desperation we've reached. And, what credible alternative do we have? ESB posted WAQ/MS/TW/JB out, but when politely asked whom in? No specific reply. Question left unanswered. To replace WAQ - good question, I’ve no idea To replace MS - his silence is deafening, maybe he’s not behind this farce after all? To replace TW - plenty of out of work conference south managers for a like for like, I’d prefer an experienced Lennie Lawrence type. Like Lennie Lawrence maybe To replace JB - see MS above - pay a competent CEO (maybe or maybe not MS) to find the right manager for the club. That’s their job. I can suggest one name if the criteria of JB getting a team to 6th at a point mid season is so important - Graham Coughlan. He achieved 4th. I see no qualities in JB that GC doesn’t have and plenty the other way round. And if anyone wants to criticise me for looking backwards. I’m a Gashead, it’s what I know best. If I was a paid director of the club I would do much better than that.
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Post by trymer on Feb 25, 2021 16:59:07 GMT
Those 2 promotions were nice but kind of lose their edge when you take into account it was promotion from the lowest point we'd ever been. I see them more as righting wrongs than actual success. I understand your view but, in that process we had seen the manager get rid of the deadwood and those mercenaries who were taking a wage and had no interest in the pride of the shirt. We had wholesale changes and, very much, had OUR Rovers back. I see it that , under WAQ, we have not seen evolution but have gone back to precisely what we were, prior to the relegation out of the EFL. I cannot see anything that has truly put us on course for better times and this fabled evolution. I see a club in very real crisis and with a board who would not even give any interviews with the new manager. As I see it, we are back to where we were, in the bad times but we have accumulated much more debt. Those 2 seasons saw an increase in attendances a great atmosphere around the club (and as you said momentum) the qadi arrived at the right moment to milk the applause and its been down hill pretty much since then (attendances included).
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Post by realmancgas on Feb 25, 2021 18:17:12 GMT
Would any of Wael, Widdrington and Starnes be even in the top 10 for each of their respective positions from all the league one clubs? Wael might scrape in there because of his deep pockets but he doesn’t have much footballing sense and couldn’t pick a manager to save his life. It’s just a complete Poundland set up who would struggle to find work at other league one clubs. Yet it seems perfectly good enough for Rovers. I don’t pos mt on here as the ITK who aren’t ITK and people unable to use Google do my head in but couldn’t leave this one lie....literally. 1. WAQ is clearly in top 10 wealth wise , competence is a personal choice 2. DC head hunted his old friend and manager Widdrington from an identical position at Coventry - who were in top 10 so yes he’s experienced too 10 3 Starnes career includes CEO of Yeovil and Plymouth, who he took from administration to being a top 6 L1 club So would any of these be top 10..... you can guess the answer. Their form of late may not be to our liking but let’s not undermine the quality of Widdrington and Starnes achievements in L1
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Post by JeffNZ on Feb 25, 2021 18:56:18 GMT
The original post was positioned as a question so a bit tough labelling it a lie RMG.
I don't think many on here claim to be "in the know" either, just lots of speculation, conjuncture and opinion. The sort of thing those who regularly engage on a forum would expect.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 20:41:32 GMT
Yeah fair shout, you’ve convinced me there. We’re really lucky to have these guys. Exceptional stuff and they’ve all really delivered. 18 million+ spent by WAQ in league one, 5 managers and counting and we’ve barely had a promotion challenge but have been worried about relegation a few times. Great value for money produced by the board there. Peterborough Sunderland and Hull must wish they could tap into the Bristol Rovers brains trust to figure out how we do it.
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