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Post by womble on Mar 5, 2021 15:24:13 GMT
Oh, I think SL could tell you his gross and nett worth at any time of the day or night. People don't become virtually double -billionaires by accident. Bet he would need to check. But the point remains, he wouldn't exactly miss the 30 or 40 million extra it would cost to buy promotion into the PL. It’s interesting because he knows the model required, it’s in use at the rugby club. A competent CEO, a top class coach and appropriate facilities. Oddly, the football team are only just getting top class training facilities (despite this being pointed out as a need as far back as Danny Wilson) and a series of underwhelming managerial appointments. A number of city supporters are of the opinion that this is because Lansdown has little knowledge of rugby, but still wants a considerable input into the football side. This leads to appointments who might be regarded as more ‘malleable’.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 15:46:29 GMT
Bet he would need to check. But the point remains, he wouldn't exactly miss the 30 or 40 million extra it would cost to buy promotion into the PL. It’s interesting because he knows the model required, it’s in use at the rugby club. A competent CEO, a top class coach and appropriate facilities. Oddly, the football team are only just getting top class training facilities (despite this being pointed out as a need as far back as Danny Wilson) and a series of underwhelming managerial appointments. A number of city supporters are of the opinion that this is because Lansdown has little knowledge of rugby, but still wants a considerable input into the football side. This leads to appointments who might be regarded as more ‘malleable’. Some excellent points there. Overlay that onto what's happening at Rovers, pathetic facilities, revolving door management appointments for both team and business, and Wael at the head of it all with, as far as I can make out, no particular expertise in anything.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 16:08:33 GMT
It will be easier to get planning permission to build a new stadium on the Cenotaph on the City Centre than to get multiple use planning on the training ground site. That site and the old hospital site was a planning hot potato for the previous owners and the housing development only got the go ahead after it being referred to the secretary of state who granted permission but would only allow the exact footprint of the old hospital to be built on. Doesn't have to be a huge building, and the knowledge that the rest of the land is saved from concrete, plus the nature reserve, should work in your favour. Plus if the facilities are community based (I think you've mentioned that option before). Any update on the Ed Ware Homes plan for housing in the fields opposite The Quarters? I had forgotten about the Ed Ware viability study. Having moved from that area 6 years ago I'm out of touch with developments during that time. The community based idea could swing it and would certainly get the locals on board.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 16:11:12 GMT
Oh, I think SL could tell you his gross and nett worth at any time of the day or night. People don't become virtually double -billionaires by accident. Bet he would need to check. But the point remains, he wouldn't exactly miss the 30 or 40 million extra it would cost to buy promotion into the PL. I think the point that Steve Lansdown was making in his reply is that he knew what his worth was at the time but it didn't match the figures quoted in the Times Rich list.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 16:23:48 GMT
Bet he would need to check. But the point remains, he wouldn't exactly miss the 30 or 40 million extra it would cost to buy promotion into the PL. I think the point that Steve Lansdown was making in his reply is that he knew what his worth was at the time but it didn't match the figures quoted in the Times Rich list. Mate, when the FTSE moves 1 point his wealth changes by more than my total nett worth!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 16:29:28 GMT
I think the point that Steve Lansdown was making in his reply is that he knew what his worth was at the time but it didn't match the figures quoted in the Times Rich list. Mate, when the FTSE moves 1 point his wealth changes by more than my total nett worth! As does mine.
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 5, 2021 16:56:45 GMT
When I spoke to him about his rich list position his reply was, "I would like to know where it all is then." I can only assume that those who like to have digs at Steve Lansdown do not know him personally. He is one of the nicest successful people that I have ever known and just before he left for Gurnsey I saw hime playing skittles at Patchway Labour Club with his mates just like he had always done. A couple of seasons ago a Gashead asked me if I could let him have SL's contact details as his cricket club was struggling. I asked several weeks later if he had any luck and he told me that he had asked SL to finance the club so that they could survive until the end of the season. SL as an ex player of that club financed the next ten years. that's a rare nice read on here
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 5, 2021 17:11:55 GMT
SL is not there now. Not for a few years That is correct However Lansdown stake in the firm is still around 7%. In 2020 he received £18.6 million in dividends after Hargreaves Lansdown's profits increased by 24% to £378.3 million in the 12 months leading up to June 30, 2020 So still a few pennies to fund City82..... He is loving his rugger now though.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 5, 2021 17:31:29 GMT
Oh, I think SL could tell you his gross and nett worth at any time of the day or night. People don't become virtually double -billionaires by accident. When I spoke to him about his rich list position his reply was, "I would like to know where it all is then." I can only assume that those who like to have digs at Steve Lansdown do not know him personally. He is one of the nicest successful people that I have ever known and just before he left for Gurnsey I saw hime playing skittles at Patchway Labour Club with his mates just like he had always done. A couple of seasons ago a Gashead asked me if I could let him have SL's contact details as his cricket club was struggling. I asked several weeks later if he had any luck and he told me that he had asked SL to finance the club so that they could survive until the end of the season. SL as an ex player of that club financed the next ten years. We really missed a trick with SL as following his first trip to what was then Hull City's new stadium we set up a Rovers/City company to pursue a new joint stadium. If we hadn't have been so stupid we could have also benefitted form his billions in a productive way. I think it’s obvious I do not know him as you would as I have met him twice and did not talk of business nor would I know where to start, he struck me as a very honest and decent man and he was very open about being a rovers fan and , in no way, did he try to side step that. one thing he did say, that has always struck me as true and that this was the rovers have made some very poor business decisions both in the past and continue to do so. The people around him seemed very normal fan types and not hard nosed businessmen. I believe we turned Harry Dolman and SL down but I didn’t want the chat to seem like I was some kind of reporter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 17:52:22 GMT
Oh, I think SL could tell you his gross and nett worth at any time of the day or night. People don't become virtually double -billionaires by accident. When I spoke to him about his rich list position his reply was, "I would like to know where it all is then." I can only assume that those who like to have digs at Steve Lansdown do not know him personally. He is one of the nicest successful people that I have ever known and just before he left for Gurnsey I saw him playing skittles at Patchway Labour Club with his mates just like he had always done. A couple of seasons ago a Gashead asked me if I could let him have SL's contact details as his cricket club was struggling. I asked several weeks later if he had any luck and he told me that he had asked SL to finance the club so that they could survive until the end of the season. SL as an ex player of that club financed the next ten years. This is one of the nice things about SL. Talk to people who know him and there are lots of stories like this where he's got involved and helped, but he never advertises the fact. This is one of the reasons I get irritated when people moan on and on about him utilising tax allowances and following rules. If you don't approve of the existing tax legislation you need to complain to your MP, Lansdown does nothing wrong whatsoever.
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Post by towngas on Mar 5, 2021 20:06:13 GMT
Oh, I think SL could tell you his gross and nett worth at any time of the day or night. People don't become virtually double -billionaires by accident. Bet he would need to check. But the point remains, he wouldn't exactly miss the 30 or 40 million extra it would cost to buy promotion into the PL. I agree he could easily afford to buy promotion to the PL. it's an enduring mystery to me as to why he hasn't done it. It seems that every time John L and that Ashton bloke cock it up SL has to step in and sort it out. This time he appointed Pearson after the fiasco of Dean Holden. Why he didn't just appoint him in the summer is beyond me. I suppose he wanted Jon to show his worth but it's often the case the son is a shadow of the successful father. SL had to work and graft for his billions, sunshine has had it all handed to him on a silver salver and has never suffered from need.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 20:31:51 GMT
Bet he would need to check. But the point remains, he wouldn't exactly miss the 30 or 40 million extra it would cost to buy promotion into the PL. I agree he could easily afford to buy promotion to the PL. it's an enduring mystery to me as to why he hasn't done it. It seems that every time John L and that Ashton bloke cock it up SL has to step in and sort it out. This time he appointed Pearson after the fiasco of Dean Holden. Why he didn't just appoint him in the summer is beyond me. I suppose he wanted Jon to show his worth but it's often the case the son is a shadow of the successful father. SL had to work and graft for his billions, sunshine has had it all handed to him on a silver salver and has never suffered from need. Not hinting at something here, are you?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 21:15:00 GMT
My anti-Barton thread's turned into a bit of a Lansdowne love-in. God knows I'd swap an Al Qadi for a Lansdowne myself, any day if the week. There's no point in denying this.
I do think he signed a striker he didn't want, in order to supress DC's Rovers' play-off potential though, so he's no saint.
Buy what moral high ground do we retain? None. We have despicable Joey Barton as our figurehead.
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Post by The Concept on Mar 5, 2021 22:22:27 GMT
Doesn't have to be a huge building, and the knowledge that the rest of the land is saved from concrete, plus the nature reserve, should work in your favour. Plus if the facilities are community based (I think you've mentioned that option before). Any update on the Ed Ware Homes plan for housing in the fields opposite The Quarters? I had forgotten about the Ed Ware viability study. Having moved from that area 6 years ago I'm out of touch with developments during that time. The community based idea could swing it and would certainly get the locals on board. Found this, from Dec 2018, plans for 2,200 homes off Hortham Lane opposite The Quarters, called 'Woodhouse Down': www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/local-news/places-homes-could-built-south-2284075And if you google 'Ed Ware Homes housing development plan, Hortham, Bristol', it brings back a 119 page pdf document for 'Pegasus Group'.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 22:48:10 GMT
My anti-Barton thread's turned into a bit of a Lansdowne love-in. God knows I'd swap an Al Qadi for a Lansdowne myself, any day if the week. There's no point in denying this. I do think he signed a striker he didn't want, in order to supress DC's Rovers' play-off potential though, so he's no saint. Buy what moral high ground do we retain? None. We have despicable Joey Barton as our figurehead. Tell you what, you tail wagging waddler, if 1982 were threatening promotion and our owner sabotaged their season by tempting their main goal scorer away 1 minute before the Jan transfer window shut I would laugh my c$ck off, and would continue to do so for months, if not years. Is he a Saint? Nope, far from it, many years ago he should have contacted those who lost out in 1982, and plenty of employees and small local businesses were badly affected by what happened. He could have made a gesture to those that he could have found, just something symbolic, but as far as I'm aware he never has. This is one of the things in an odd way I've always been quite happy about because we've always been able to point and say 'Look, we hold the moral high ground'. Wael, to his eternal shame has blown that apart by employing a violent lout as the public face of our club. I hope that the weasels who read this forum and scuttle off, like little insects in the dark, to report back to the club what's being said are getting the idea of the harm that's been done here and have the courage to explain it to our owner.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Mar 6, 2021 5:50:36 GMT
Any indication that the council will permit a change of use on the site given the number of previous efforts, by previous owners, to develop the site were turned down? Also, is there still a chance of building the few houses that Dwane Sports applied for but never sent in all the details so the planning was refused? It was possible using permitted development rules to convert the remains of the existing agricultural buildings to residential. This had already received consent back in around 2016, before Rovers acquired the site. Since then the barn has been turned into a gym and the remaining structures levelled, so I’m not sure whether a new planning application, for what would in effect be new builds, would be favourably received. It has been stated that the club would like to build accommodation for a caretaker. As that seems like a necessity to have community use of a recreation/sport site, that might get permission even though the site is green belt. You would hope that the club had made informal approaches to South Glos about whether that was likely to be acceptable. I just knew we had not seen the last of the infamous Grotto.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 15:36:22 GMT
Here we go, a brief, but not complete, list of career 'highlights' from the new public face of our club. Congratulations to everybody who has no understanding whatsoever of our values and has brought this character into my club, I don't expect you to care because your judgement in these things is obviously dire. This says far more about you as people than it does about Bristol Rovers Football Club and what we stand for. You should all hang your heads in shame. www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/joey-bartons-top-30-mad-1285925
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Post by towngas on Mar 6, 2021 19:31:17 GMT
My anti-Barton thread's turned into a bit of a Lansdowne love-in. God knows I'd swap an Al Qadi for a Lansdowne myself, any day if the week. There's no point in denying this. I do think he signed a striker he didn't want, in order to supress DC's Rovers' play-off potential though, so he's no saint. Buy what moral high ground do we retain? None. We have despicable Joey Barton as our figurehead. I don't think Pearson is a particulaly nice person. Where was the faux outrage when we signed Adam Smith, what with his treatment of a woman on that pre-season tour. Is it only an outrage if the offence is committed by someone high-profile?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 6, 2021 19:36:27 GMT
My anti-Barton thread's turned into a bit of a Lansdowne love-in. God knows I'd swap an Al Qadi for a Lansdowne myself, any day if the week. There's no point in denying this. I do think he signed a striker he didn't want, in order to supress DC's Rovers' play-off potential though, so he's no saint. Buy what moral high ground do we retain? None. We have despicable Joey Barton as our figurehead. I don't think Pearson is a particulaly nice person. Where was the faux outrage when we signed Adam Smith, what with his treatment of a woman on that pre-season tour. Is it only an outrage if the offence is committed by someone high-profile? Um, and Ronnie Mauge? No one batted eyelid. Rollin hit and run seemed acceptable too..
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Post by syg on Mar 6, 2021 19:49:20 GMT
Here we go, a brief, but not complete, list of career 'highlights' from the new public face of our club. Congratulations to everybody who has no understanding whatsoever of our values and has brought this character into my club, I don't expect you to care because your judgement in these things is obviously dire. This says far more about you as people than it does about Bristol Rovers Football Club and what we stand for. You should all hang your heads in shame. www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/joey-bartons-top-30-mad-1285925Why dont you **** off to Ashton Gate, your anti Barton rhetoric is painful and embarrassing. You clearly are unable to let it rest and with several other individuals you are wrecking what was a sensible place to have some resonable rovees debate.
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