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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 11:06:02 GMT
You've now written to this ridiculous thread twenty-eight times. You wrote to the last match day thread... once. Here are your stats over the last fifty-one posts, for reference: Joey Barton is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers: 28 Joey Barton - officially named manager: 13 I must say (pro Barton thread): 4 Plus one post each on Gas versus Shrews matchday, where is Martyn Starnes, Wigan versus Gas matchday, Brexit Britain, EU success stories, and Brentford's stadium. Barton has certainly inspired you. There’s nothing to defend on the latest match thread. The very existence of the club is under threat should certain people on here get their way. So screwed up over Barton’s appointment you would happily see the club fail and the man who is personally bankrolling us gone. I’d say that’s a cause worth commenting on. Again, this thread is ridiculous. As we've mentioned previously, until the normal process of selling / disposing of a football club is carried out you don't know who may be willing to step in, how much they may have to invest, or how efficiently, or inefficiently they may run the club. As someone touched on a couple of days ago though, a change of owner isn't always a good thing, and there may be vultures circling.
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Post by steviegas on Mar 2, 2021 12:27:30 GMT
I never thought this thread would get to 18 pages. Like him or hate him he is now our manager so we need to see how he gets on. When the fans return and get on his back Joey may react but hopefully he can learn from his past incidents so lets support the man in the present time and hopefully we will still be in League 1 next season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 12:43:06 GMT
I never thought this thread would get to 18 pages. Like him or hate him he is now our manager so we need to see how he gets on. When the fans return and get on his back Joey may react but hopefully he can learn from his past incidents so lets support the the man in the present time and hopefully we will still be in League 1 next season. No.
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Post by towngas on Mar 2, 2021 12:57:24 GMT
There’s nothing to defend on the latest match thread. The very existence of the club is under threat should certain people on here get their way. So screwed up over Barton’s appointment you would happily see the club fail and the man who is personally bankrolling us gone. I’d say that’s a cause worth commenting on. Again, this thread is ridiculous. As we've mentioned previously, until the normal process of selling / disposing of a football club is carried out you don't know who may be willing to step in, how much they may have to invest, or how efficiently, or inefficiently they may run the club. As someone touched on a couple of days ago though, a change of owner isn't always a good thing, and there may be vultures circling. What is the normal process for this kind of transaction? Are you suggestion the AQ’s obtained Rovers in some shady, under the counter deal? Surely if an owner of a FC decides he wants to sell and puts the word out, then listens to any interested parties and decided if they have the clubs best interests at heart and then sells on that contractural basis. Prospective owner then has to pass the fit and proper persons test (Ho ho) Are you suggesting Wael wants to sell the Gas? News to me if he does, and if that’s a fact you and the other Barton haters should probably stop slagging Wael on a .daily basis in case he thinks ‘To hell with it, ungrateful b'stards’ and sells to the highest bidder who may just want the land for development and couldn’t give a flying about football. Theres an article about sport in Bristol in today’s Telegraph. Rovers get a brief mention, saying our profile has been heightened by Barton’s appointment. That’s about it. Glos cricket gets a mention then the vast bulk of the article is about Lansdown, Pearson, City, Bristol Bears, Bristol Sport, the basket ball arena etc etc. We warranted about two lines. No-one was self-digesting over Barton, in fact it was seen as a positive. Perhaps this Barton horror is confined to a few ultra-sensitive souls on an obscure, inconsequential on-line forum.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 13:08:00 GMT
As we've mentioned previously, until the normal process of selling / disposing of a football club is carried out you don't know who may be willing to step in, how much they may have to invest, or how efficiently, or inefficiently they may run the club. As someone touched on a couple of days ago though, a change of owner isn't always a good thing, and there may be vultures circling. What is the normal process for this kind of transaction? Are you suggestion the AQ’s obtained Rovers in some shady, under the counter deal?
Surely if an owner of a FC decides he wants to sell and puts the word out, then listens to any interested parties and decided if they have the clubs best interests at heart and then sells on that contractural basis. Prospective owner then has to pass the fit and proper persons test (Ho ho) Are you suggesting Wael wants to sell the Gas? News to me if he does, and if that’s a fact you and the other Barton haters should probably stop slagging Wael on a .daily basis in case he thinks ‘To hell with it, ungrateful b******s’ and sells to the highest bidder who may just want the land for development and couldn’t give a flying about football. Theres an article about sport in Bristol in today’s Telegraph. Rovers get a brief mention, saying our profile has been heightened by Barton’s appointment. That’s about it. Glos cricket gets a mention then the vast bulk of the article is about Lansdown, Pearson, City, Bristol Bears, Bristol Sport, the basket ball arena etc etc. We warranted about two lines. No-one was self-digesting over Barton, in fact it was seen as a positive. Perhaps this Barton horror is confined to a few ultra-sensitive souls on an obscure, inconsequential on-line forum. I stopped reading your post at the point highlighted in blue as I didn't even hint at such a thing. Neither have I ever done so as I don't believe it to be the case. You are beginning to sound a bit unhinged. That's twice in 2 days you've attempted to misrepresent something I've said. No point saying that it's just a question, the suggestion is there.
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Post by towngas on Mar 2, 2021 13:34:08 GMT
I’m surprised I have to explain this, but here goes. My comparison with the hysterical Barton Out movement to religious zealotry is not saying the movement has anything to do with religion. I am using religious zealotry as a simile to describe the hysteria over Barton. I could have said it was medieval witch hunting, again a simile. I would not be advocating Barton be put in a ducking stool and drowned, or burnt at the stake for that matter. Did that really need explaining? You seem to be arguing your position with equal vigour to that displayed by any of us opposed to the appointment. We've all become hysterical, apparently. I’m not being hysterical, I have no need to be. I am content with Barton as manager, I hope he will prove able to improve and keep us in this division then develop the squad with the aim of a much better time next season. Who knows we may even be able to actually go to the games. Not you and others on here obviously, because you’ve forsworn your support until the Evil Prince has gone. As for Barton’s personal life, I hope he’s learned his lesson. I want him to have the opportunity here to prove he is a changed character. If he offends again I will admit I was wrong. I think I have said this all along. I will continue to defend my view on this thread for as long as other people make what I consider to be ridiculous demands that Baron and Wael leave the club. In the meantime I would like to record my thanks to Mr. Al Quadi for keeping the club going in these uncertain times. I have done what I can to help by renewing my 3 ST’s at the start of the season. I won’t be asking for a refund. I would like to further thank him for writing off the club debts and for financing the development of the training ground. Nobody else has done it.
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Post by towngas on Mar 2, 2021 13:38:48 GMT
What is the normal process for this kind of transaction? Are you suggestion the AQ’s obtained Rovers in some shady, under the counter deal?
Surely if an owner of a FC decides he wants to sell and puts the word out, then listens to any interested parties and decided if they have the clubs best interests at heart and then sells on that contractural basis. Prospective owner then has to pass the fit and proper persons test (Ho ho) Are you suggesting Wael wants to sell the Gas? News to me if he does, and if that’s a fact you and the other Barton haters should probably stop slagging Wael on a .daily basis in case he thinks ‘To hell with it, ungrateful b******s’ and sells to the highest bidder who may just want the land for development and couldn’t give a flying about football. Theres an article about sport in Bristol in today’s Telegraph. Rovers get a brief mention, saying our profile has been heightened by Barton’s appointment. That’s about it. Glos cricket gets a mention then the vast bulk of the article is about Lansdown, Pearson, City, Bristol Bears, Bristol Sport, the basket ball arena etc etc. We warranted about two lines. No-one was self-digesting over Barton, in fact it was seen as a positive. Perhaps this Barton horror is confined to a few ultra-sensitive souls on an obscure, inconsequential on-line forum. I stopped reading your post at the point highlighted in blue as I didn't even hint at such a thing. Neither have I ever done so as I don't believe it to be the case. You are beginning to sound a bit unhinged. That's twice in 2 days you've attempted to misrepresent something I've said. No point saying that it's just a question, the suggestion is there. A question mark normally denotes a question, but never mind. You continue to take offence at imaginary slights if you want. It makes a rather difficult barrier to reasonable debate though, don’t you think? I rather suspect you DID read the remainder of my post, but decided not to comment as you had nothing to say.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 14:21:07 GMT
I stopped reading your post at the point highlighted in blue as I didn't even hint at such a thing. Neither have I ever done so as I don't believe it to be the case. You are beginning to sound a bit unhinged. That's twice in 2 days you've attempted to misrepresent something I've said. No point saying that it's just a question, the suggestion is there. A question mark normally denotes a question, but never mind. You continue to take offence at imaginary slights if you want. It makes a rather difficult barrier to reasonable debate though, don’t you think? I rather suspect you DID read the remainder of my post, but decided not to comment as you had nothing to say. Not offended, and even if I were that would be my problem to deal with. It's what appears to be a wilful attempt at mischaracterising a position that caused me to lose the will to read the rest of it. Will maybe take a look later.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 14:27:46 GMT
You seem to be arguing your position with equal vigour to that displayed by any of us opposed to the appointment. We've all become hysterical, apparently. I’m not being hysterical, I have no need to be. I am content with Barton as manager, I hope he will prove able to improve and keep us in this division then develop the squad with the aim of a much better time next season. Who knows we may even be able to actually go to the games. Not you and others on here obviously, because you’ve forsworn your support until the Evil Prince has gone. As for Barton’s personal life, I hope he’s learned his lesson. I want him to have the opportunity here to prove he is a changed character. If he offends again I will admit I was wrong. I think I have said this all along. I will continue to defend my view on this thread for as long as other people make what I consider to be ridiculous demands that Baron and Wael leave the club. In the meantime I would like to record my thanks to Mr. Al Quadi for keeping the club going in these uncertain times. I have done what I can to help by renewing my 3 ST’s at the start of the season. I won’t be asking for a refund. I would like to further thank him for writing off the club debts and for financing the development of the training ground. Nobody else has done it. And there you go again. Other people's points of view are now 'ridiculous'. I'm not sure what it is that's hard to understand about the club's finances. It matters not one jot whether it's called debt, share capital or Magic Pixie Moon Dust, call it what you will, nothing has changed, if everything goes belly up, or if Wael decides it's time to do something different with his time/ money, he's first in line to be repaid, the charge on the stadium assures that. When the money he's put in exceeds the realisable value of the assets then you'll have a point, until then, you don't.
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Post by swissgas on Mar 2, 2021 15:03:27 GMT
As we've mentioned previously, until the normal process of selling / disposing of a football club is carried out you don't know who may be willing to step in, how much they may have to invest, or how efficiently, or inefficiently they may run the club. As someone touched on a couple of days ago though, a change of owner isn't always a good thing, and there may be vultures circling. What is the normal process for this kind of transaction? Are you suggestion the AQ’s obtained Rovers in some shady, under the counter deal? Surely if an owner of a FC decides he wants to sell and puts the word out, then listens to any interested parties and decided if they have the clubs best interests at heart and then sells on that contractural basis. Prospective owner then has to pass the fit and proper persons test (Ho ho) Are you suggesting Wael wants to sell the Gas? News to me if he does, and if that’s a fact you and the other Barton haters should probably stop slagging Wael on a .daily basis in case he thinks ‘To hell with it, ungrateful b******s’ and sells to the highest bidder who may just want the land for development and couldn’t give a flying about football. Theres an article about sport in Bristol in today’s Telegraph. Rovers get a brief mention, saying our profile has been heightened by Barton’s appointment. That’s about it. Glos cricket gets a mention then the vast bulk of the article is about Lansdown, Pearson, City, Bristol Bears, Bristol Sport, the basket ball arena etc etc. We warranted about two lines. No-one was self-digesting over Barton, in fact it was seen as a positive. Perhaps this Barton horror is confined to a few ultra-sensitive souls on an obscure, inconsequential on-line forum. Why would Wael think " to hell with it, ungrateful b******s’ and sell to the highest bidder who may just want the land for development" if his only critics were "a few ultra-sensitive souls on an obscure, inconsequential on-line forum" and otherwise everything was going to plan ?
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Post by towngas on Mar 2, 2021 17:54:17 GMT
What is the normal process for this kind of transaction? Are you suggestion the AQ’s obtained Rovers in some shady, under the counter deal? Surely if an owner of a FC decides he wants to sell and puts the word out, then listens to any interested parties and decided if they have the clubs best interests at heart and then sells on that contractural basis. Prospective owner then has to pass the fit and proper persons test (Ho ho) Are you suggesting Wael wants to sell the Gas? News to me if he does, and if that’s a fact you and the other Barton haters should probably stop slagging Wael on a .daily basis in case he thinks ‘To hell with it, ungrateful b******s’ and sells to the highest bidder who may just want the land for development and couldn’t give a flying about football. Theres an article about sport in Bristol in today’s Telegraph. Rovers get a brief mention, saying our profile has been heightened by Barton’s appointment. That’s about it. Glos cricket gets a mention then the vast bulk of the article is about Lansdown, Pearson, City, Bristol Bears, Bristol Sport, the basket ball arena etc etc. We warranted about two lines. No-one was self-digesting over Barton, in fact it was seen as a positive. Perhaps this Barton horror is confined to a few ultra-sensitive souls on an obscure, inconsequential on-line forum. Why would Wael think " to hell with it, ungrateful b******s’ and sell to the highest bidder who may just want the land for development" if his only critics were "a few ultra-sensitive souls on an obscure, inconsequential on-line forum" and otherwise everything was going to plan ? Only he can answer that. Let’s hope he doesn’t read this forum.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 2, 2021 18:02:02 GMT
... and (ironically) lashing of patronisation. Genuine question towngas , are you involved with the club in any professional or official capacity? I query why patriotism should be ironic. As as for your question, no, I have never had any involvement officially or otherwise with Rovers. I have followed the club since I was at junior school.in the early 60's. I buy my ST's for myself, wife and youngest son and we usually have a pasty/ hot drink & Sweets at the ground. Thats as far as my financial support goes. My son and I do as many away trips as possible. I look at the cost of running a lower league FC and am flabbergasted. I am in awe of the people who bankroll our club from their own pockets. WAQ is spending a fortune on us and he isn't even a Bristolian, let alone English or British. That people snipe, criticise and abuse him on these forums I find quite staggering. I wonder how many many of them would risk their money in a similar way if they had it! I know I wouldn't. I sense you don’t wish for compromise on this Townie, seek a truce, just continue the war. And for that reason I want to respond with “people like you are going to destroy our club! With your he’s our chairman, he’s our CEO, he is our manager and we should support him” supporting bad leadership for too long till it’s too late. but then you posted this “I have followed the club since I was at junior school.in the early 60's. I buy my ST's for myself, wife and youngest son and we usually have a pasty/ hot drink & Sweets at the ground. Thats as far as my financial support goes. My son and I do as many away trips as possible.” we have to realise when the s**t are laughing at us, they are laughing at all of us, not one side or other. From your quote, families of committed gasheads, all our lives. Since we were an egg. Gas eggs. We actually want the same thing. We actually worried about the same thing, rovers trashed, laughing stock, out of league out of business. Bristol Rovers who are they? Exactly. we have to find someway of cohabiting despite differences in supporting the club to success.
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Post by towngas on Mar 2, 2021 18:19:44 GMT
I’m not being hysterical, I have no need to be. I am content with Barton as manager, I hope he will prove able to improve and keep us in this division then develop the squad with the aim of a much better time next season. Who knows we may even be able to actually go to the games. Not you and others on here obviously, because you’ve forsworn your support until the Evil Prince has gone. As for Barton’s personal life, I hope he’s learned his lesson. I want him to have the opportunity here to prove he is a changed character. If he offends again I will admit I was wrong. I think I have said this all along. I will continue to defend my view on this thread for as long as other people make what I consider to be ridiculous demands that Baron and Wael leave the club. In the meantime I would like to record my thanks to Mr. Al Quadi for keeping the club going in these uncertain times. I have done what I can to help by renewing my 3 ST’s at the start of the season. I won’t be asking for a refund. I would like to further thank him for writing off the club debts and for financing the development of the training ground. Nobody else has done it. And there you go again. Other people's points of view are now 'ridiculous'. I'm not sure what it is that's hard to understand about the club's finances. It matters not one jot whether it's called debt, share capital or Magic Pixie Moon Dust, call it what you will, nothing has changed, if everything goes belly up, or if Wael decides it's time to do something different with his time/ money, he's first in line to be repaid, the charge on the stadium assures that. When the money he's put in exceeds the realisable value of the assets then you'll have a point, until then, you don't. I have a right to an opinion, my opinion is that it is ridiculous for people to want Wael and Barton gone from the club. Free speech means that other people can say it’s ridiculous for me and others to want Barton as manager and applaud Wael for employing him. If it goes wrong and Barton commits further offences whilst our manager I will admit I was wrong to trust him. The club finances are a matter of fact. If Wael wants his money back he will either sell the club as a going concern with conditions or sell the club and allow the new owner to finish the club and develop the land. However it’s the same with most other clubs. If Lansdown decided he’s had enough of City he could do exactly the same. if that French guy decides he’s had enough of Sunderland he could do the same. If the Glazers decide to dispose of United they could do the same. If the Yanks who own Liverpool decide they’ve had enough they could do the same. If the Arab Sheik who owns Man City decides he’s had enough he could do the same. Abramovich at Chelsea. The Arabs who own Everton, but I’m sure you get the picture.
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Post by towngas on Mar 2, 2021 18:34:48 GMT
I query why patriotism should be ironic. As as for your question, no, I have never had any involvement officially or otherwise with Rovers. I have followed the club since I was at junior school.in the early 60's. I buy my ST's for myself, wife and youngest son and we usually have a pasty/ hot drink & Sweets at the ground. Thats as far as my financial support goes. My son and I do as many away trips as possible. I look at the cost of running a lower league FC and am flabbergasted. I am in awe of the people who bankroll our club from their own pockets. WAQ is spending a fortune on us and he isn't even a Bristolian, let alone English or British. That people snipe, criticise and abuse him on these forums I find quite staggering. I wonder how many many of them would risk their money in a similar way if they had it! I know I wouldn't. I sense you don’t wish for compromise on this Townie, seek a truce, just continue the war. And for that reason I want to respond with “people like you are going to destroy our club! With your he’s our chairman, he’s our CEO, he is our manager and we should support him” supporting bad leadership for too long till it’s too late. but then you posted this “I have followed the club since I was at junior school.in the early 60's. I buy my ST's for myself, wife and youngest son and we usually have a pasty/ hot drink & Sweets at the ground. Thats as far as my financial support goes. My son and I do as many away trips as possible.” we have to realise when the s*** are laughing at us, they are laughing at all of us, not one side or other. From your quote, families of committed gasheads, all our lives. Since we were an egg. Gas eggs. We actually want the same thing. We actually worried about the same thing, rovers trashed, laughing stock, out of league out of business. Bristol Rovers who are they? Exactly. we have to find someway of cohabiting despite differences in supporting the club to success. This is all about opinions and freedom of speech. I think your position is ridiculous, as you do mine,. I am always ready to be persuaded but none of you have said anything to convince me. I don’t what you expect from the owner, he’s keeping the club going building the Quarters etc. As for the Teds, I couldn’t care less what they think or say. Most of them are plastics anyway. I remember them getting less than 4k in 1982, where we’re all the true Reds then? as for co-existing, no problem for me. I shall continue to support the club, I will renew our ST’s in the next couple of months and will be in our seats as soon as allowed. There won’t be any need for co-existence at the stadium because you and all the Barton Outs won’t be there. I wonder how many empty seats and vacant terrace places there will be? I wonder if a few of you will start to return if we’re doing well?
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Post by TaiwanGas on Mar 2, 2021 18:47:12 GMT
You seem to be arguing your position with equal vigour to that displayed by any of us opposed to the appointment. We've all become hysterical, apparently. I’m not being hysterical, I have no need to be. I am content with Barton as manager, I hope he will prove able to improve and keep us in this division then develop the squad with the aim of a much better time next season. Who knows we may even be able to actually go to the games. Not you and others on here obviously, because you’ve forsworn your support until the Evil Prince has gone. As for Barton’s personal life, I hope he’s learned his lesson. I want him to have the opportunity here to prove he is a changed character. If he offends again I will admit I was wrong. I think I have said this all along. I will continue to defend my view on this thread for as long as other people make what I consider to be ridiculous demands that Baron and Wael leave the club. In the meantime I would like to record my thanks to Mr. Al Quadi for keeping the club going in these uncertain times. I have done what I can to help by renewing my 3 ST’s at the start of the season. I won’t be asking for a refund. I would like to further thank him for writing off the club debts and for financing the development of the training ground. Nobody else has done it. Townie, I applaude your commitment. A quick question if I may "If he offends again I will admit I was wrong'' are you giving Barton a free pass for his June trial?, or does he need to offend yet again before or after June 2021?.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 18:54:24 GMT
And there you go again. Other people's points of view are now 'ridiculous'. I'm not sure what it is that's hard to understand about the club's finances. It matters not one jot whether it's called debt, share capital or Magic Pixie Moon Dust, call it what you will, nothing has changed, if everything goes belly up, or if Wael decides it's time to do something different with his time/ money, he's first in line to be repaid, the charge on the stadium assures that. When the money he's put in exceeds the realisable value of the assets then you'll have a point, until then, you don't. I have a right to an opinion, my opinion is that it is ridiculous for people to want Wael and Barton gone from the club. Free speech means that other people can say it’s ridiculous for me and others to want Barton as manager and applaud Wael for employing him. If it goes wrong and Barton commits further offences whilst our manager I will admit I was wrong to trust him. The club finances are a matter of fact. If Wael wants his money back he will either sell the club as a going concern with conditions or sell the club and allow the new owner to finish the club and develop the land. However it’s the same with most other clubs. If Lansdown decided he’s had enough of City he could do exactly the same. if that French guy decides he’s had enough of Sunderland he could do the same. If the Glazers decide to dispose of United they could do the same. If the Yanks who own Liverpool decide they’ve had enough they could do the same. If the Arab Sheik who owns Man City decides he’s had enough he could do the same. Abramovich at Chelsea. The Arabs who own Everton, but I’m sure you get the picture. Just 2 things. It's normally nice to try to refrain from direct insults in conversation. Secondly, I don't know what the situation is at Sunderland or Everton, and am pretty sure that the Glaziers have earned well from Utd and that the business will have a higher value today than when they took over, all of the others on your list have owners who have invested far more than the value of the club. Until Wael does the same he has zero exposure, so there's not much to be grateful for, and even when we reach that point he jolly well deserves to be held to account for the way in which he's burned through the equity on our stadium. Now of course, there are methods by which he could write those losses off and leave the club genuinely debt free, if he did that I would move over to your side of the fence and thank him, but right now I'll stick where I am.
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Post by towngas on Mar 2, 2021 21:12:04 GMT
I’m not being hysterical, I have no need to be. I am content with Barton as manager, I hope he will prove able to improve and keep us in this division then develop the squad with the aim of a much better time next season. Who knows we may even be able to actually go to the games. Not you and others on here obviously, because you’ve forsworn your support until the Evil Prince has gone. As for Barton’s personal life, I hope he’s learned his lesson. I want him to have the opportunity here to prove he is a changed character. If he offends again I will admit I was wrong. I think I have said this all along. I will continue to defend my view on this thread for as long as other people make what I consider to be ridiculous demands that Baron and Wael leave the club. In the meantime I would like to record my thanks to Mr. Al Quadi for keeping the club going in these uncertain times. I have done what I can to help by renewing my 3 ST’s at the start of the season. I won’t be asking for a refund. I would like to further thank him for writing off the club debts and for financing the development of the training ground. Nobody else has done it. Townie, I applaude your commitment. A quick question if I may "If he offends again I will admit I was wrong'' are you giving Barton a free pass for his June trial?, or does he need to offend yet again before or after June 2021?. Barton has done nothing wrong whilst with us. If he does I will condemn him. I thought I’d made that clear.
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Post by towngas on Mar 2, 2021 21:14:20 GMT
I have a right to an opinion, my opinion is that it is ridiculous for people to want Wael and Barton gone from the club. Free speech means that other people can say it’s ridiculous for me and others to want Barton as manager and applaud Wael for employing him. If it goes wrong and Barton commits further offences whilst our manager I will admit I was wrong to trust him. The club finances are a matter of fact. If Wael wants his money back he will either sell the club as a going concern with conditions or sell the club and allow the new owner to finish the club and develop the land. However it’s the same with most other clubs. If Lansdown decided he’s had enough of City he could do exactly the same. if that French guy decides he’s had enough of Sunderland he could do the same. If the Glazers decide to dispose of United they could do the same. If the Yanks who own Liverpool decide they’ve had enough they could do the same. If the Arab Sheik who owns Man City decides he’s had enough he could do the same. Abramovich at Chelsea. The Arabs who own Everton, but I’m sure you get the picture. Just 2 things. It's normally nice to try to refrain from direct insults in conversation. Secondly, I don't know what the situation is at Sunderland or Everton, and am pretty sure that the Glaziers have earned well from Utd and that the business will have a higher value today than when they took over, all of the others on your list have owners who have invested far more than the value of the club. Until Wael does the same he has zero exposure, so there's not much to be grateful for, and even when we reach that point he jolly well deserves to be held to account for the way in which he's burned through the equity on our stadium. Now of course, there are methods by which he could write those losses off and leave the club genuinely debt free, if he did that I would move over to your side of the fence and thank him, but right now I'll stick where I am. Just 1 thing. How have I insulted you or anyone else for that matter?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 21:29:48 GMT
I had a direct message today from a fine long-term member of this forum, whom I won't name, who is (I hope just for now) done with Bristol Rovers and Gas Guzzler alike. Kegan Towngas Degg might care more about City's 1982 attendances than that lifelong gasheads have walked away from Bristol Rovers Football Club over this embarrassing and amoral appointment, but that's not what I care about the most. These people just love a social media celebrity bringing his profile and fame to Bristol Rovers, even if both were achieved purely by violence and arrogance. This is sad, but I've met such supine people before; I don't care.
What I really care about is serious people on here, who ought to know better (and I believe without evidence that they do) condoning or sidelining Barton's character, as if it's judgemental or prejudice not to promote an unrepentant violent criminal as leader of a football team followed by children.
Joey Barton should not be ostracised. He should not be outcast or unemployed. Like all ex-cons, he should be supported to find gainful employment in the sort of job which does not require DBS checks or good character. It's in the public interest, after all.
I would even support his rehabilitation in the factory, warehousing, driving, and trade jobs others feed and house their children by working, although some of these really do require good character, so it's a sacrifice to some degree. But he cannot be the face of Bristol Rovers Football Club. Not if we retain any sort of moral courage.
Barton won't be here in two years time. Who else won't? Shame on you, Bristol Rovers Football Club.
EDIT: I just looked at tonight's result and matchday thread, and I realised. I don't care. It doesn't matter any more. That message I received all makes sense now. I get it, Sir.
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kentgas
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Post by kentgas on Mar 2, 2021 21:48:18 GMT
If you don’t care, why do you keep posting on here?
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