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Post by warehamgas on Mar 19, 2023 21:28:42 GMT
Where's the "public humiliation " on said players Swiss,? He just told us they both have to buck up. Fine. The field of play needs to be spot on on for next season,commonsense. Publicly threatening to give somebody the sack is humiliation in my book Bas.And the comment about having to find a new coach if the pitch isn’t sorted out is something I’d expect to hear from a petulant teenager not the manager of a professional football club. Of course it is, and to pretend otherwise is ridiculous. As to threats over finding a new coach….that’s a bit of an empty threat, JB is going nowhere because I’m not sure any other club would be as accommodating as Wael has been to him. He’s been very fortunate and I bet he knows it. UTG!
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Mar 20, 2023 8:39:10 GMT
If this is true I wonder whether the legendary greater transparency and communication will click into gear and we’ll get a statement from the club. In the past twelve months there’s been silence over the loss of our Head of Finance and Head of Facilities so if the Head of Football Operations has also now gone then it looks as though heads are rolling down Filton Avenue just as fast as the team are rolling down the League 1 table. They’ll soon be calling us Bastille Rovers. Don’t forget our assistant manager, Kevin Bond either. It took an age before that was reported and the rumours had already spread before we were told. As has been said, it’s my way or the highway as far as JB is concerned. I have no major problem with that so along as the JB way leads to positive results. 1 home goal in 7 home games doesn’t sound too positive to me. Pressure building in home games. UTG! Don't forget his first assistant, Clint Hill, flatmate and teammate at QPR, who also left pretty sharpish after witnessing Barton's "alleged" assault on his wife. I've lost count of the number of staff who have suddenly up and left, and players thrown under the bus. It'll just be him and his colonel left at this rate. But there are signs of unrest among his hardcore followers and that his victim narrative is wearing thin. After the latest defeat he literally marched towards the Thatchers end, hands in the air giving a mighty applause to the hundred or so fans who hadn't quite made it out. I hope this is a sign that they are beginning to wake up and smell the coffee. Barton out now!
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Post by Peter Parker on Mar 20, 2023 9:32:22 GMT
Don’t forget our assistant manager, Kevin Bond either. It took an age before that was reported and the rumours had already spread before we were told. As has been said, it’s my way or the highway as far as JB is concerned. I have no major problem with that so along as the JB way leads to positive results. 1 home goal in 7 home games doesn’t sound too positive to me. Pressure building in home games. UTG! Don't forget his first assistant, Clint Hill, flatmate and teammate at QPR, who also left pretty sharpish after witnessing Barton's "alleged" assault on his wife. I've lost count of the number of staff who have suddenly up and left, and players thrown under the bus. It'll just be him and his colonel left at this rate. But there are signs of unrest among his hardcore followers and that his victim narrative is wearing thin. After the latest defeat he literally marched towards the Thatchers end, hands in the air giving a mighty applause to the hundred or so fans who hadn't quite made it out. I hope this is a sign that they are beginning to wake up and smell the coffee. Barton out now! I am not sure why Clint Hill left, but I don't believe Clint Hill has any direct connection to the alleged incident in question. The other party may or may not be employed by the club
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Post by bluetornados on Mar 20, 2023 11:24:18 GMT
Clint Hill - 44 years old - 670 Career Games - Coaching Career..
On 21st May 2018, he was appointed as joint First Team Coach at Fleetwood Town alongside former Rochdale manager Steve Eyre.
Hill left Fleetwood in January 2021 when then manager Joey Barton was relieved of his duties.
On 22nd February, he followed Barton and Andy Mangan to join Bristol Rovers.
On 14th August 2021, following a 2–0 home defeat to Stevenage, it was announced that Hill had left the club due to personal family reasons.
In October 2021, Hill was appointed assistant manager at League Two club Hartlepool United.
Hill left the club a month later following the departure of manager Dave Challinor.
The following day Hill followed Challinor to Stockport County in the role of assistant manager.
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Post by Bath Gas on Mar 20, 2023 12:38:46 GMT
Don’t forget our assistant manager, Kevin Bond either. It took an age before that was reported and the rumours had already spread before we were told. As has been said, it’s my way or the highway as far as JB is concerned. I have no major problem with that so along as the JB way leads to positive results. 1 home goal in 7 home games doesn’t sound too positive to me. Pressure building in home games. UTG! Don't forget his first assistant, Clint Hill, flatmate and teammate at QPR, who also left pretty sharpish after witnessing Barton's "alleged" assault on his wife. I've lost count of the number of staff who have suddenly up and left, and players thrown under the bus. It'll just be him and his colonel left at this rate. But there are signs of unrest among his hardcore followers and that his victim narrative is wearing thin. After the latest defeat he literally marched towards the Thatchers end, hands in the air giving a mighty applause to the hundred or so fans who hadn't quite made it out. I hope this is a sign that they are beginning to wake up and smell the coffee. Barton out now! I'm not aware of any proof that Clint Hill was present to witness anything - presumably you have some, as you're stating it on a public forum?
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 8, 2023 23:23:35 GMT
Shouldn't we add 'still' to the title of the thread?
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Post by Bath Gas on Apr 9, 2023 0:40:38 GMT
Shouldn't we add 'still' to the title of the thread? To make it look even more stupid than it currently does?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 9, 2023 9:10:20 GMT
......... just an ongoing observation, the 3 "punch" yay yay yayyyy at the end of the match towards Thatcher's End suggest thousands think JAB is very fit to be manager. As you were..........
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Post by holmesgas1 on Apr 9, 2023 13:10:23 GMT
Shouldn't we add 'still' to the title of the thread? Why? He’s got us promotion after clearing up the mess of two previous manager, and securing League 1 for next season. The club seems a lot stronger than 2 years ago. But there again I judge a person on now, and don’t continually hold against them previous misdemeanours, if they seem to have learned.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 9, 2023 18:52:09 GMT
Shouldn't we add 'still' to the title of the thread? Why? He’s got us promotion after clearing up the mess of two previous manager, and securing League 1 for next season. The club seems a lot stronger than 2 years ago. But there again I judge a person on now, and don’t continually hold against them previous misdemeanours, if they seem to have learned. I guess some people (including me) don't feel he has 'learned'. As evidence I would point to his post-match ramblings where he will still never ever ever accept any personal blame for a defeat. You learn from your mistakes. If you don't think you've ever made a mistake, you will never learn. So I don't think he is a radically different person from the person who joined BRFC 2 years ago. That is just my opinion. Free country and all that.
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Post by bluetornados on Apr 9, 2023 18:59:48 GMT
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Post by holmesgas1 on Apr 9, 2023 19:17:54 GMT
Why? He’s got us promotion after clearing up the mess of two previous manager, and securing League 1 for next season. The club seems a lot stronger than 2 years ago. But there again I judge a person on now, and don’t continually hold against them previous misdemeanours, if they seem to have learned. I guess some people (including me) don't feel he has 'learned'. As evidence I would point to his post-match ramblings where he will still never ever ever accept any personal blame for a defeat. You learn from your mistakes. If you don't think you've ever made a mistake, you will never learn. So I don't think he is a radically different person from the person who joined BRFC 2 years ago. That is just my opinion. Free country and all that. That’s fair enough. We differ but as you say free country and as long as the Gas are doing well, we both have things to celebrate
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2023 8:55:24 GMT
"Happy birthday to Thread, Happy Birthday to Thread, Happy Birthday dear Threa-ed, Happy Birthday to Thread". Sorry I missed it. Two years finds Rovers in the bottom half of the division Barton relegated them from, so happy we broke even.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Apr 14, 2023 9:16:16 GMT
"Happy birthday to Thread, Happy Birthday to Thread, Happy Birthday dear Threa-ed, Happy Birthday to Thread". Sorry I missed it. Two years finds Rovers in the bottom half of the division Barton relegated them from, so happy we broke even. Maybe technically correct, but it was not Barton who got us relegated. It was Garner and Tisdale who did the damage. Credit where credit is due. Barton got us back in one season, and what a ride. Hopefully it continues for another few years, as it will be interesting where we stand then. Hopefully then this self righteous thread will be put to bed once and for all.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Apr 14, 2023 10:12:54 GMT
Sorry I missed it. Two years finds Rovers in the bottom half of the division Barton relegated them from, so happy we broke even. Maybe technically correct, but it was not Barton who got us relegated. It was Garner and Tisdale who did the damage. Credit where credit is due. Barton got us back in one season, and what a ride. Hopefully it continues for another few years, as it will be interesting where we stand then. Hopefully then this self righteous thread will be put to bed once and for all. Barton did get us relegated and we went down in an abject manner under him. It’s true that this was mostly with Benny’s team (Tisdale not given long enough to have much influence at all) he did rebuild an exciting and likeable team which got us promoted in a truly exciting manner on the last day of the season, but this season has shown imho opinion that he is not a very good manager and does not get the best out of the players he has at his disposal. He overthinks things and never accepts when he gets things wrong - always someone else's fault. Stats show that his time with us is exactly the same as his whole career average - just south of 40% win ratio. Not great, not terrible and not good enough to get us out of this league in the right direction This season will end ok given that it is our first back at this level but we have shown glimpses of what might have been without his thinking he is better than Guardiola. He’ll either self combust next year or we will struggle Just my view and hope he proves me wrong but just don’t get why others think he is the next messiah
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Post by holmesgas1 on Apr 14, 2023 11:38:35 GMT
Maybe technically correct, but it was not Barton who got us relegated. It was Garner and Tisdale who did the damage. Credit where credit is due. Barton got us back in one season, and what a ride. Hopefully it continues for another few years, as it will be interesting where we stand then. Hopefully then this self righteous thread will be put to bed once and for all. Barton did get us relegated and we went down in an abject manner under him. It’s true that this was mostly with Benny’s team (Tisdale not given long enough to have much influence at all) he did rebuild an exciting and likeable team which got us promoted in a truly exciting manner on the last day of the season, but this season has shown imho opinion that he is not a very good manager and does not get the best out of the players he has at his disposal. He overthinks things and never accepts when he gets things wrong - always someone else's fault. Stats show that his time with us is exactly the same as his whole career average - just south of 40% win ratio. Not great, not terrible and not good enough to get us out of this league in the right direction This season will end ok given that it is our first back at this level but we have shown glimpses of what might have been without his thinking he is better than Guardiola. He’ll either self combust next year or we will struggle Just my view and hope he proves me wrong but just don’t get why others think he is the next messiah Who said messiah, your words not mine. Just better than many a manager we have had. Yes limitations, but at our level it is difficult to strike lucky with a manager. There’s more duds than reasonable ones. (Notice again, balance) What disappoints me is some do not even give some credit, because they have another agenda. Life is to short to be continually negative. It gets everyone down. To be fair, your reply was not one of them.
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Post by baselswh on Apr 14, 2023 14:14:44 GMT
Joe Barton is a brilliant manager and getting better.
I have and continue to thoroughly enjoy his reign.
Long may it continue.
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Post by droitwichgas on Apr 14, 2023 16:44:33 GMT
"He’ll either self combust next year or we will struggle"
Aren't they both the same as I can't see JB self combusting if we're doing well? JB's no fool he must know if he fails at Rovers then he's not going to get a better job elsewhere.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Apr 14, 2023 17:39:36 GMT
Barton did get us relegated and we went down in an abject manner under him. It’s true that this was mostly with Benny’s team (Tisdale not given long enough to have much influence at all) he did rebuild an exciting and likeable team which got us promoted in a truly exciting manner on the last day of the season, but this season has shown imho opinion that he is not a very good manager and does not get the best out of the players he has at his disposal. He overthinks things and never accepts when he gets things wrong - always someone else's fault. Stats show that his time with us is exactly the same as his whole career average - just south of 40% win ratio. Not great, not terrible and not good enough to get us out of this league in the right direction This season will end ok given that it is our first back at this level but we have shown glimpses of what might have been without his thinking he is better than Guardiola. He’ll either self combust next year or we will struggle Just my view and hope he proves me wrong but just don’t get why others think he is the next messiah Who said messiah, your words not mine. Just better than many a manager we have had. Yes limitations, but at our level it is difficult to strike lucky with a manager. There’s more duds than reasonable ones. (Notice again, balance) What disappoints me is some do not even give some credit, because they have another agenda. Life is to short to be continually negative. It gets everyone down. To be fair, your reply was not one of them. Yes messiah is my description not one you’ve used , and this is how I see the hero worship of him from some quarters. He’s got us back roughly to the level he inherited so clean slate from me at the moment and though I think we have had an acceptable season I do think we have underachieved because we have seen in flashes how good a team we could be. Consistency has been an issue throughout. Barton will blame injuries suspensions and anyone else but himself but i do think the way he has managed the squad is a major contributing factor. 2 nd season in a new league is usually tougher as you’ve lost the momentum that took you there and other teams have the experience of playing you to be sble to work you out. Nothing in his managerial stats says that he will be able to improve on ghis season but we can all live in hope
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Post by irenestoyboy on Apr 14, 2023 18:49:17 GMT
Maybe technically correct, but it was not Barton who got us relegated. It was Garner and Tisdale who did the damage. Credit where credit is due. Barton got us back in one season, and what a ride. Hopefully it continues for another few years, as it will be interesting where we stand then. Hopefully then this self righteous thread will be put to bed once and for all. Barton did get us relegated and we went down in an abject manner under him. It’s true that this was mostly with Benny’s team (Tisdale not given long enough to have much influence at all) he did rebuild an exciting and likeable team which got us promoted in a truly exciting manner on the last day of the season, but this season has shown imho opinion that he is not a very good manager and does not get the best out of the players he has at his disposal. He overthinks things and never accepts when he gets things wrong - always someone else's fault. Stats show that his time with us is exactly the same as his whole career average - just south of 40% win ratio. Not great, not terrible and not good enough to get us out of this league in the right direction This season will end ok given that it is our first back at this level but we have shown glimpses of what might have been without his thinking he is better than Guardiola. He’ll either self combust next year or we will struggle Just my view and hope he proves me wrong but just don’t get why others think he is the next messiah I'll preface this by stating I'm not a Barton fan at all and certainly not the messiah, but this is an objective opinion. I don't think you can attach any blame to Barton at all. We did go down in an abject manner but 95% of the players we had weren't competent, weren't fit and lacked any collective nous to apply what Barton was trying to teach them. The players that stayed on in L1 got relegated again the following year apart from Leahy and Hanlan. Most of the players that left us went to a poorer standard of football. The responsibility for our relegation lied with TW and BG at the start of the summer window and TW and PT as well as MS for the January window. It was absolutely clear come October that we needed a centre back, a winger 2 centre midfielders and a striker, possibly 2. The exciting young players we had signed could not compete at the level and our experienced players were often outnumbered or in some part, injured. TW and PT answer was to sign a goalkeeper and a right back which was the least of our problems. He also decided to chase Jayden Stockley for a whole month and in desperation, we tried to sign Danny Hylton who decided we were far too basket case to even think about it. Compare us with Burton who had the same issues, but changed their manager in December and went out and signed 11 players in Jan, and stayed up. Wimbledon signed 6 players. I could go on. By the time Barton was here, most of the decent players (Nicholson, Hanlan, Lmc, Leahy) we're either broken or burnt out most of them snussing their way through training and games. Pep wouldn't have kept us up with what we had in our squad.
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