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Post by One F in Dunford on Feb 15, 2023 18:36:34 GMT
In my opinion it’s only “your team” once you have had a transfer window. I therefore wouldn’t take much of the 20-21 season into account, as he inherited the players who had just taken 5 points from their previous 10 games! Not sure your stats are exactly correct as I believe he was in charge of 18 league games 20-21. Fair enough One F in D. Apologies - it is indeed 18 games. 20-21 season 18 games 11 points 3 Wins, 2 Draws, 13 Losses. 0.611 ppg. 22-23 season 31 games 38 points = 1.226ppg. 49 games 49 points = exactly 1ppg. Thanks Epping. So would you agree that the 20-21 team wasn’t Barton’s team, as he inherited it after the transfer window closed?
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 15, 2023 18:47:09 GMT
Fair enough One F in D. Apologies - it is indeed 18 games. 20-21 season 18 games 11 points 3 Wins, 2 Draws, 13 Losses. 0.611 ppg. 22-23 season 31 games 38 points = 1.226ppg. 49 games 49 points = exactly 1ppg. Thanks Epping. So would you agree that the 20-21 team wasn’t Barton’s team, as he inherited it after the transfer window closed? Yup, agreed. I guess that is the case with any new manager... they all inherit (usually underperforming teams) and their job is to try and improve results. Barton didn't.
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Post by One F in Dunford on Feb 15, 2023 18:57:16 GMT
Thanks Epping. So would you agree that the 20-21 team wasn’t Barton’s team, as he inherited it after the transfer window closed? Yup, agreed. I guess that is the case with any new manager... they all inherit (usually underperforming teams) and their job is to try and improve results. Barton didn't. Unfortunately he couldn’t improve them. As I say the rot had already set in with Tisdale taking 5 points from the previous 10 games. In my opinion Barton’s Bristol Rovers started the 21-22 season.
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 15, 2023 19:02:58 GMT
Yup, agreed. I guess that is the case with any new manager... they all inherit (usually underperforming teams) and their job is to try and improve results. Barton didn't. Unfortunately he couldn’t improve them. As I say the rot had already set in with Tisdale taking 5 points from the previous 10 games. In my opinion Barton’s Bristol Rovers started the 21-22 season. No problems, I respect your opinion.
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Post by Bath Gas on Feb 15, 2023 19:20:57 GMT
Unfortunately he couldn’t improve them. As I say the rot had already set in with Tisdale taking 5 points from the previous 10 games. In my opinion Barton’s Bristol Rovers started the 21-22 season. No problems, I respect your opinion. So, why are there no stats for the 21-22 season? Whichever league you manage in, you are competing against teams who are your equals, so the results are just as relevant.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Feb 15, 2023 22:03:27 GMT
Yup, agreed. I guess that is the case with any new manager... they all inherit (usually underperforming teams) and their job is to try and improve results. Barton didn't. Unfortunately he couldn’t improve them.As I say the rot had already set in with Tisdale taking 5 points from the previous 10 games. In my opinion Barton’s Bristol Rovers started the 21-22 season. But hang on, how many times have teams had new managers and kicked on. We, as fans, always dread playing a team that has just sacked their manager and a new one appointed? And how many of Barton's supporters say what a good motivator he is! I remember at the time many of us being bewildered at how he seemed to sit back and let them carry on as they did with Tisdale. People can't have it both ways. I remember being gutted at the all round lackadaisical attitude of team and manager.
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 15, 2023 22:41:35 GMT
No problems, I respect your opinion. So, why are there no stats for the 21-22 season? Whichever league you manage in, you are competing against teams who are your equals, so the results are just as relevant. Because I am just looking at stats for League 1. Just that league. A flat playing field (excuse the pun) to compare with DC/GC/BG/PT in League 1. Picking up points per game in League 2 is a significantly easier, because, errr... League 2 has significantly weaker teams in it. But I think you knew that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 0:09:15 GMT
Barton took Garner and Tisdale's players From above the relegation zone to rock Bottom, but Guardialola and Ferguson would Have done no better. That's nuts, fellas. I thought Tisdale was sacked in order to Bring in a celebrity to keep his team above Relegation. This backfired when the new Manager wrecked off the season entirely. Two years on we're barely safer than we Were. I'm pleased others enjoyed fourth Division football and promotion, though.
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Post by baselswh on Feb 16, 2023 6:17:53 GMT
Vindictive, sanctimonious, drivel.
No surprise so many no longer post on this forum.
Just the other week DrFaustas posted on the other forum ,that he does'nt bother with this one anymore because of the useless negativity posted.
Congratulations.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 16, 2023 6:46:08 GMT
Unfortunately he couldn’t improve them.As I say the rot had already set in with Tisdale taking 5 points from the previous 10 games. In my opinion Barton’s Bristol Rovers started the 21-22 season. But hang on, how many times have teams had new managers and kicked on. We, as fans, always dread playing a team that has just sacked their manager and a new one appointed? And how many of Barton's supporters say what a good motivator he is! I remember at the time many of us being bewildered at how he seemed to sit back and let them carry on as they did with Tisdale. People can't have it both ways. I remember being gutted at the all round lackadaisical attitude of team and manager. Garner should have been given the full season. It was his players (mostly) and they were at least trying to play for him.
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Post by The Concept on Feb 16, 2023 6:51:48 GMT
Funny that, because I've posted far less here over the past couple of years, and gone long spells without bothering with the forum at all, because of the vomit-inducing gushing posts from those who think Joey can do no wrong, and won't have a bad word said about their hero, or find myself reaching for the sick bucket as I read the wriggle and squirm excuses as people try to defend the latest act or accusation that surfaces.
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Post by baselswh on Feb 16, 2023 7:33:58 GMT
Funny that, because I've posted far less here over the past couple of years, and gone long spells without bothering with the forum at all, because of the vomit-inducing gushing posts from those who think Joey can do no wrong, and won't have a bad word said about their hero, or find myself reaching for the sick bucket as I read the wriggle and squirm excuses as people try to defend the latest act or accusation that surfaces. Ah.Well I exaggerated my pro JB stance a couple of years ago as my own protest against the nonsense being spouted from our 'pillars of the community' against JB and his revolution. He's clearly a good manager. We've seen this kind of nonsense before at Rovers,'down with Gouldie','down with Lennie',down with Couglan 'etc. Unfortunately, the protesters are all non existing moral high ground,but no football commonsense. Shame. Faustas and others gone,yet here you lot are,actually wallowing in this useless thread. It's destructive,you surely realise that,yet on and on you lot go. Apparently you are more important than the fc. How modest.
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Post by baselswh on Feb 16, 2023 7:51:12 GMT
So, why are there no stats for the 21-22 season? Whichever league you manage in, you are competing against teams who are your equals, so the results are just as relevant. Because I am just looking at stats for League 1. Just that league. A flat playing field (excuse the pun) to compare with DC/GC/BG/PT in League 1. Picking up points per game in League 2 is a significantly easier, because, errr... League 2 has significantly weaker teams in it. But I think you knew that. .......................................... Sorry Epping,but this campaign of yours and the very few others is just narcissistic twaddle.Your arguments are weak.Even with your tactic of isolating issues/statistics,it's still weak. WAQ is simply trying something new with JB and if ever a fc needed this, it is Bristol Rovers.
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Post by One F in Dunford on Feb 16, 2023 8:29:02 GMT
Unfortunately he couldn’t improve them.As I say the rot had already set in with Tisdale taking 5 points from the previous 10 games. In my opinion Barton’s Bristol Rovers started the 21-22 season. But hang on, how many times have teams had new managers and kicked on. We, as fans, always dread playing a team that has just sacked their manager and a new one appointed? And how many of Barton's supporters say what a good motivator he is! I remember at the time many of us being bewildered at how he seemed to sit back and let them carry on as they did with Tisdale. People can't have it both ways. I remember being gutted at the all round lackadaisical attitude of team and manager. Some teams with new managers do kick on but others don’t, it is a gamble that clubs take. I personally think Barton is a decent motivator but he obviously isn’t a firefighter. As I think everyone agrees the rot started at the start of 2021 with Tisdale and Barton was unable to halt it. Anyways if we hadn’t have been relegated we wouldn’t have all been celebrating at the Mem on 7th May 2022. One of the best days to be a Rovers fan and I’ve been going for 50 plus years. UTG
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Post by bondigas on Feb 16, 2023 8:33:53 GMT
Trying something new, he certainly is, Chris Spendlove appeared as a suspect in a murder trial, Eddy Jennings a character witness on behalf of the murderer, Andy Managan heavily fined and suspended by the FA for match fixing and now awaiting a further homophobic charge by the FA and of course the creme de la creme Barton, so many incidents involving his involvement with the wrong side of the law you'd run out of ink listing them ! Yes that's new alright, and there are those that believe Barton would walk into another job or be head hunted by a club, their having a giraffe aren't they?
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Post by Igitur on Feb 16, 2023 8:50:31 GMT
1.16 onwards.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Feb 16, 2023 8:51:00 GMT
But hang on, how many times have teams had new managers and kicked on. We, as fans, always dread playing a team that has just sacked their manager and a new one appointed? And how many of Barton's supporters say what a good motivator he is! I remember at the time many of us being bewildered at how he seemed to sit back and let them carry on as they did with Tisdale. People can't have it both ways. I remember being gutted at the all round lackadaisical attitude of team and manager. Garner should have been given the full season. It was his players (mostly) and they were at least trying to play for him. Garner should never have been appointed in the first place. A terrible decision and would have been out of his depth in a puddle. That being clear should have been sacked far earlier than he actually was, compounding a litany of errors
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Feb 16, 2023 8:52:40 GMT
Vindictive, sanctimonious, drivel. No surprise so many no longer post on this forum. Just the other week DrFaustas posted on the other forum ,that he does'nt bother with this one anymore because of the useless negativity posted. Congratulations. Unusually for you that is a pretty accurate and honest self assessment
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Feb 16, 2023 8:53:49 GMT
Funny that, because I've posted far less here over the past couple of years, and gone long spells without bothering with the forum at all, because of the vomit-inducing gushing posts from those who think Joey can do no wrong, and won't have a bad word said about their hero, or find myself reaching for the sick bucket as I read the wriggle and squirm excuses as people try to defend the latest act or accusation that surfaces. X2. Well said Concept
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Feb 16, 2023 8:57:57 GMT
But hang on, how many times have teams had new managers and kicked on. We, as fans, always dread playing a team that has just sacked their manager and a new one appointed? And how many of Barton's supporters say what a good motivator he is! I remember at the time many of us being bewildered at how he seemed to sit back and let them carry on as they did with Tisdale. People can't have it both ways. I remember being gutted at the all round lackadaisical attitude of team and manager. Some teams with new managers do kick on but others don’t, it is a gamble that clubs take. I personally think Barton is a decent motivator but he obviously isn’t a firefighter. As I think everyone agrees the rot started at the start of 2021 with Tisdale and Barton was unable to halt it. Anyways if we hadn’t have been relegated we wouldn’t have all been celebrating at the Mem on 7th May 2022. One of the best days to be a Rovers fan and I’ve been going for 50 plus years. UTG Personally I think the rot set in when Coughlan was forced out and the hapless Benny was appointed. Agree that the end of last season was exciting and Barton has assembled a squad that is easy to like, all of ehom do appear to give a s**t when pulling on the shirt
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