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Post by bondigas on Oct 28, 2022 16:08:08 GMT
Barton wasn't listed for his last appearance. I suspect the court administration does this deliberately to keep the press and the anti wife beating campaigners away from the court and public gallery.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2022 16:44:34 GMT
Barton wasn't listed for his last appearance. I suspect the court administration does this deliberately to keep the press and the anti wife beating campaigners away from the court and public gallery. We wouldn't want them fighting with the pro wife beating campaigners, after all.
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Post by Angas on Oct 28, 2022 17:14:53 GMT
Didn't JB's name appear on the list at the last minute on one of the other Court appearances? Angas is usually the best at tracking this sort of stuff. Annie or one of the obsessives will find something I imagine the Bristol Post will inform us if there is something to be informed of. I won't be wasting any time looking for anything as, even if the case goes ahead, I doubt much will come of it.
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Post by Bath Gas on Oct 28, 2022 17:33:21 GMT
Barton wasn't listed for his last appearance. I suspect the court administration does this deliberately to keep the press and the anti wife beating campaigners away from the court and public gallery. As he is likely to arrive at the Court with his wife, I very much doubt that any such protest would take place, if it were ever likely in the first place. I would imagine that they would have much more productive things to be doing re. supporting victims of Domestic Violence.
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Post by bondigas on Oct 28, 2022 19:04:15 GMT
No doubt those two dynamic Bristol Post newshounds Frost and Piercy will keep us all up to date through out the day on Monday !
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Post by alftupper on Oct 29, 2022 6:19:53 GMT
No doubt those two dynamic Bristol Post newshounds Frost and Piercy will keep us all up to date through out the day on Monday ! The Woodward and Bernstein de nos jours.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 3, 2023 9:20:01 GMT
It's not just Barton. It's the almost total scousification of Bristol Rovers. If the pattern continues, next to go will be Tom Gorringe. I understand that suitable replacements are available in the north west of England.
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Post by dido on Jan 3, 2023 13:26:14 GMT
Yeh. Just move the target.
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Post by petecolley on Jan 3, 2023 13:35:46 GMT
It's not just Barton. It's the almost total scousification of Bristol Rovers. If the pattern continues, next to go will be Tom Gorringe. I understand that suitable replacements are available in the north west of England. And you wonder why this forum is dead on its feet ?
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Post by rowdenhill on Jan 3, 2023 14:42:22 GMT
This forum is not dead on its feet. Non affatto. It's fresh as a daisy. Always bearing new ideas. It's like a spring chicken of an autumn's day.
See the new post on Pele.
And no, before the linguistic know-alls start pontificating, I don't put an acute on Pele - as we angles stress it on the first syll. And there's far too many of them cluttering up Castilian as it is.
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Post by swissgas on Jan 3, 2023 15:44:44 GMT
It's not just Barton. It's the almost total scousification of Bristol Rovers. If the pattern continues, next to go will be Tom Gorringe. I understand that suitable replacements are available in the north west of England. And you wonder why this forum is dead on its feet ? But Pete, if Gasheads just want to hear what they think is good news and would prefer not to discuss any alternative viewpoints then they are quite free to do so. The problem we have is that those thinking that way see any dissident opinion as an attack on the club so they immediately attack the poster and that puts people off contributing. In the past on here I've invoked a phrase attributed to the early socialist philosopher Rosa Luxemburg "the only true freedom is the freedom to think differently" and I strongly believe in that. As an example we have the situation with the young man who has just been appointed club secretary. If we look at the bigger picture, and in particular Tom Gorringe's position, most reasonable people would agree that Tom lacks senior managerial experience and that many of the well publicised mistakes he has made over the past year can be attributed to that. So if you had appointed a CEO who was short on experience and you wanted to help him overcome this weakness what would you do ? I suggest that any reasonable person would attempt to compensate by appointing someone with experience to work alongside him to act as a kind of mentor and the last thing they would do is appoint someone with even less experience to such a key position. This is not attacking the club it's putting forward an alternative viewpoint which I think is reasonable.
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Post by petecolley on Jan 3, 2023 16:31:02 GMT
And you wonder why this forum is dead on its feet ? But Pete, if Gasheads just want to hear what they think is good news and would prefer not to discuss any alternative viewpoints then they are quite free to do so. The problem we have is that those thinking that way see any dissident opinion as an attack on the club so they immediately attack the poster and that puts people off contributing. In the past on here I've invoked a phrase attributed to the early socialist philosopher Rosa Luxemburg "the only true freedom is the freedom to think differently" and I strongly believe in that. As an example we have the situation with the young man who has just been appointed club secretary. If we look at the bigger picture, and in particular Tom Gorringe's position, most reasonable people would agree that Tom lacks senior managerial experience and that many of the well publicised mistakes he has made over the past year can be attributed to that. So if you had appointed a CEO who was short on experience and you wanted to help him overcome this weakness what would you do ? I suggest that any reasonable person would attempt to compensate by appointing someone with experience to work alongside him to act as a kind of mentor and the last thing they would do is appoint someone with even less experience to such a key position. This is not attacking the club it's putting forward an alternative viewpoint which I think is reasonable.
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Post by petecolley on Jan 3, 2023 16:33:21 GMT
Oh, so now it's Tom G. who's the villain of the piece and not just Joe B. Change the record it's getting rather boring.
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Post by Bath Gas on Jan 3, 2023 18:12:10 GMT
It's not just Barton. It's the almost total scousification of Bristol Rovers. If the pattern continues, next to go will be Tom Gorringe. I understand that suitable replacements are available in the north west of England. The players are very happy with the backroom staff who are in place, and the standards which they introduced - in that case, I couldn't give a flying fig what part of the country they are from. As for the newly appointed Club Secretary, as far as I know, he doesn't have connections with anybody already at the club, and was appointed as part of a selection process.
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Post by bondigas on Jan 3, 2023 19:59:38 GMT
I thought Lance Corporal Gibson was the club mentor. He's not even listed as a Director at Companies House.I wonder how much he's costing the club every week for doing nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 20:49:31 GMT
It's not just Barton. It's the almost total scousification of Bristol Rovers. If the pattern continues, next to go will be Tom Gorringe. I understand that suitable replacements are available in the north west of England. Ah, that scouser Glenn Whelan, the scouser Byron Anthony, perhaps the Heads of Media and Heads of Catering who have been gasheads for years and anything but scousers just like the Medical dept, Analysts, Facilities guys, Ground staff, Commercial team, Hospitality lot and literally dozens of others.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 20:59:34 GMT
And you wonder why this forum is dead on its feet ? But Pete, if Gasheads just want to hear what they think is good news and would prefer not to discuss any alternative viewpoints then they are quite free to do so. The problem we have is that those thinking that way see any dissident opinion as an attack on the club so they immediately attack the poster and that puts people off contributing. In the past on here I've invoked a phrase attributed to the early socialist philosopher Rosa Luxemburg "the only true freedom is the freedom to think differently" and I strongly believe in that. As an example we have the situation with the young man who has just been appointed club secretary. If we look at the bigger picture, and in particular Tom Gorringe's position, most reasonable people would agree that Tom lacks senior managerial experience and that many of the well publicised mistakes he has made over the past year can be attributed to that. So if you had appointed a CEO who was short on experience and you wanted to help him overcome this weakness what would you do ? I suggest that any reasonable person would attempt to compensate by appointing someone with experience to work alongside him to act as a kind of mentor and the last thing they would do is appoint someone with even less experience to such a key position. This is not attacking the club it's putting forward an alternative viewpoint which I think is reasonable.
Thats fine if people express a balanced view.
But we all know that many on here are not capable of doing that, its not so much a case of them having a glass half full or half empty, but them having a glass fully empty come what may - and in some cases they would need a sat nav to give directions towards a bloody glass.
If some of those people gave some acknowledgement of some of the many good things (unprompted) perhaps people will then take some of their other posts that challenge the club a tad more seriously.
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Post by Bath Gas on Jan 3, 2023 21:35:13 GMT
I thought Lance Corporal Gibson was the club mentor. He's not even listed as a Director at Companies House.I wonder how much he's costing the club every week for doing nothing. He isn't listed at Companies House because he isn't a Director. He was brought in to do a top to bottom review a couple of years ago, and I presume that he probably works on a consultancy basis, as he has his own business interests.
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Post by swissgas on Jan 3, 2023 22:02:48 GMT
But Pete, if Gasheads just want to hear what they think is good news and would prefer not to discuss any alternative viewpoints then they are quite free to do so. The problem we have is that those thinking that way see any dissident opinion as an attack on the club so they immediately attack the poster and that puts people off contributing. In the past on here I've invoked a phrase attributed to the early socialist philosopher Rosa Luxemburg "the only true freedom is the freedom to think differently" and I strongly believe in that. As an example we have the situation with the young man who has just been appointed club secretary. If we look at the bigger picture, and in particular Tom Gorringe's position, most reasonable people would agree that Tom lacks senior managerial experience and that many of the well publicised mistakes he has made over the past year can be attributed to that. So if you had appointed a CEO who was short on experience and you wanted to help him overcome this weakness what would you do ? I suggest that any reasonable person would attempt to compensate by appointing someone with experience to work alongside him to act as a kind of mentor and the last thing they would do is appoint someone with even less experience to such a key position. This is not attacking the club it's putting forward an alternative viewpoint which I think is reasonable.
Thats fine if people express a balanced view.
But we all know that many on here are not capable of doing that, its not so much a case of them having a glass half full or half empty, but them having a glass fully empty come what may - and in some cases they would need a sat nav to give directions towards a bloody glass.
If some of those people gave some acknowledgement of some of the many good things (unprompted) perhaps people will then take some of their other posts that challenge the club a tad more seriously.
Like Pete with his post above you are proving the point I made. Instead of putting up counter arguments to take apart the post you attack the posters who hold a different opinion to you and say you won't take them seriously. Here's a serious question for you which is very relevant right now with JB wanting to spend in the transfer window. Rovers have recently been narrowly beaten by Exeter City and just about managed to overcome Cheltenham Town. We are a place below Exeter in the table and six points above Cheltenham but they have two games in hand so it's fair to say all three teams are playing at about the same level. Why is it that to achieve the same level of performance Rovers need a £4 million pa wage budget but Exeter and Cheltenham can do it with a £2 million pa wage budget ?
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Post by Bath Gas on Jan 3, 2023 22:07:24 GMT
Thats fine if people express a balanced view.
But we all know that many on here are not capable of doing that, its not so much a case of them having a glass half full or half empty, but them having a glass fully empty come what may - and in some cases they would need a sat nav to give directions towards a bloody glass.
If some of those people gave some acknowledgement of some of the many good things (unprompted) perhaps people will then take some of their other posts that challenge the club a tad more seriously.
Like Pete with his post above you are proving the point I made. Instead of putting up counter arguments to take apart the post you attack the posters who hold a different opinion to you and say you won't take them seriously. Here's a serious question for you which is very relevant right now with JB wanting to spend in the transfer window. Rovers have recently been narrowly beaten by Exeter City and just about managed to overcome Cheltenham Town. We are a place below Exeter in the table and six points above Cheltenham but they have two games in hand so it's fair to say all three teams are playing at about the same level. Why is it that to achieve the same level of performance Rovers need a £4 million pa wage budget but Exeter and Cheltenham can do it with a £2 million pa wage budget ? I think that I'll compare the various achievements at the end of the season. My memory isn't 100% accurate, however, I'm sure that we were not near 3rd place this time last season, and look how that ended.
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