kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 28, 2022 12:58:29 GMT
Ever felt stupid Bye Bye then Some will turn a blind eye and close ears to everything so long as they get to see a game. There is so much to see, nothing to hear from WAQ but manoeuvres abound. Upgrades that turn into worse than we had before and absolutely nothing from our owner. I don’t feel stupid but i feel sorry for those that are patently ignoring the distancing of WAQ plus the influx of the Mersey mafia
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Post by Bath Gas on Sept 28, 2022 13:33:21 GMT
Ever felt stupid Bye Bye then Some will turn a blind eye and close ears to everything so long as they get to see a game. There is so much to see, nothing to hear from WAQ but manoeuvres abound. Upgrades that turn into worse than we had before and absolutely nothing from our owner. I don’t feel stupid but i feel sorry for those that are patently ignoring the distancing of WAQ plus the influx of the Mersey mafia Do you think that they are looking for financial control of the club as the end game, or to "control" Wael and his funding?
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Post by Igitur on Sept 28, 2022 14:24:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2022 14:49:57 GMT
'Lols'
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Post by Bath Gas on Sept 28, 2022 17:48:54 GMT
Did something similar myself, years ago. Leant my car to my Dad, I didn't realise that the tax had run out 6 weeks previously, obviously he didn't feel that he needed to check the legality of everything before driving a car belonging to his daughter. The Judge was obviously aware of all the circumstances in JB's case, and issued the appropriate sanction.
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Post by Angas on Sept 28, 2022 21:43:47 GMT
Someone else's fault apparently. There's a surprise. Interesting it was the same day he should have been appearing at Wimbledon magistrates court charged with assaulting his wife. The universe works in mysterious ways.
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Post by Angas on Sept 28, 2022 21:54:35 GMT
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Post by oldie on Sept 29, 2022 2:41:29 GMT
Someone else's fault apparently. There's a surprise. Interesting it was the same day he should have been appearing at Wimbledon magistrates court charged with assaulting his wife. The universe works in mysterious ways. Ummmmm
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Sept 29, 2022 4:39:30 GMT
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Post by Bath Gas on Sept 29, 2022 6:26:56 GMT
If you've got money, you can afford the best - that's the way life works.
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Post by Bath Gas on Sept 29, 2022 6:33:16 GMT
Someone else's fault apparently. There's a surprise. Interesting it was the same day he should have been appearing at Wimbledon magistrates court charged with assaulting his wife. The universe works in mysterious ways. Ummmmm Somebody with a bit of knowledge about insurance posted this on the other forum. Lets (reasonably) assume that JB is insured to drive his own motor; if we also (just as reasonably) assume that said insurance is Fully Comp, then normally that would cover him (3rd party) to drive someone else’s car. However, that car also has to be insured by the owner for JB’s own insurance to be valid whilst driving it. So it is entirely possible that he borrowed the car automatically assuming the owner was insured and that consequently his insurance would cover him - no problem. As it turns out, the owner (and therefore the car) was not insured, rendering JB’s insurance invalid when he was driving it. And the judge awarded the fine and points because, in the eyes of the law, JB really should’ve checked first.
I would imagine there are quite a lot of people who have borrowed vehicles from family members or friends assuming everything was fine & driven without actually having insurance cover.As I said above, something similar happened when I loaned my car to my father.
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Post by Igitur on Sept 29, 2022 7:23:25 GMT
The apologists may defend Joey, but MOT, tax and insurance are vital things and should be checked before driving a vehicle; I do not want to appear holier than thou, but I check. This ‘loophole’ can be employed by anyone, especially those able to hire expensive lawyers.
Anyway enough time wasted.
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Post by oldie on Sept 29, 2022 8:39:22 GMT
The apologists may defend Joey, but MOT, tax and insurance are vital things and should be checked before driving a vehicle; I do not want to appear holier than thou, but I check. This ‘loophole’ can be employed by anyone, especially those able to hire expensive lawyers. Anyway enough time wasted. No I agree. It is the responsibility of DRIVER to ensure that any car they drive is fully insured, MoT etc. Isn't it strange that people that have consistent contact with the police or other branches of the administration always have an excuse. It's never their fault. It's an attitude, a state of mind.
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 29, 2022 8:52:50 GMT
Some will turn a blind eye and close ears to everything so long as they get to see a game. There is so much to see, nothing to hear from WAQ but manoeuvres abound. Upgrades that turn into worse than we had before and absolutely nothing from our owner. I don’t feel stupid but i feel sorry for those that are patently ignoring the distancing of WAQ plus the influx of the Mersey mafia Do you think that they are looking for financial control of the club as the end game, or to "control" Wael and his funding? Surely with the number of Barton's associates on the payroll, the latter has already been achieved? I'm not being judgemental - some would interpret this as 'good news' for the Club.
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Post by Bath Gas on Sept 29, 2022 8:54:53 GMT
The apologists may defend Joey, but MOT, tax and insurance are vital things and should be checked before driving a vehicle; I do not want to appear holier than thou, but I check. This ‘loophole’ can be employed by anyone, especially those able to hire expensive lawyers. Anyway enough time wasted. No I agree. It is the responsibility of DRIVER to ensure that any car they drive is fully insured, MoT etc. Isn't it strange that people that have consistent contact with the police or other branches of the administration always have an excuse. It's never their fault. It's an attitude, a state of mind. It's something I have done myself, I'm sure there have been other times in my life when something has been overlooked. My father, who borrowed the car, was travelling to Birmingham for a funeral, so I wouldn't have expected his mind to prioritise checking the legality of my car - kudos to those of you who think of such things when there has been a close death in the family - amazing. I feel so humble to be in such faultless company on here - I'm just not able to reach such heights (those horses are rather tall)
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Post by Bath Gas on Sept 29, 2022 8:57:04 GMT
Do you think that they are looking for financial control of the club as the end game, or to "control" Wael and his funding? Surely with the number of Barton's associates on the payroll, the latter has already been achieved? I'm not being judgemental - some would interpret this as 'good news' for the Club. Maybe it has, I'm not quite clear if EJ is responsible for controlling the finance relating to every aspect of the club. I would love to find out though!
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Post by Bath Gas on Sept 29, 2022 9:01:54 GMT
The apologists may defend Joey, but MOT, tax and insurance are vital things and should be checked before driving a vehicle; I do not want to appear holier than thou, but I check. This ‘loophole’ can be employed by anyone, especially those able to hire expensive lawyers. Anyway enough time wasted. No I agree. It is the responsibility of DRIVER to ensure that any car they drive is fully insured, MoT etc. Isn't it strange that people that have consistent contact with the police or other branches of the administration always have an excuse. It's never their fault. It's an attitude, a state of mind. A state of mind can fluctuate between a good or bad place, or in between - maybe he wasn't in a state of mind to think about whether or not his brother had insured the car?
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 29, 2022 9:14:19 GMT
Surely with the number of Barton's associates on the payroll, the latter has already been achieved? I'm not being judgemental - some would interpret this as 'good news' for the Club. Maybe it has, I'm not quite clear if EJ is responsible for controlling the finance relating to every aspect of the club. I would love to find out though! Maybe you could ask Tom Gorringe (sounds like you get on with him better than me these days). There seems to be a lack of clarity about who ultimately has that financial responsibility. Though as per my point above - if there is a critical mass of Barton's associates in key positions, then I would conclude that JB and EJ are effectively in total control on and off the pitch. Again - before people start jumping on my back - that could be interpreted as a 'good thing'. I must have missed this - (apologies if it's been discussed before) - gives a bit more background to the growing influence of JB and EJ. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/wael-al-qadi-barton-bristol-7112799
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Post by oldie on Sept 29, 2022 9:23:19 GMT
Maybe it has, I'm not quite clear if EJ is responsible for controlling the finance relating to every aspect of the club. I would love to find out though! Maybe you could ask Tom Gorringe (sounds like you get on with him better than me these days). There seems to be a lack of clarity about who ultimately has that financial responsibility. Though as per my point above - if there is a critical mass of Barton's associates in key positions, then I would conclude that JB and EJ are effectively in total control on and off the pitch. Again - before people start jumping on my back - that could be interpreted as a 'good thing'. I must have missed this - (apologies if it's been discussed before) - gives a bit more background to the growing influence of JB and EJ. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/wael-al-qadi-barton-bristol-7112799Indeed Epping. I would have thought, if this correct, that Gorring's position is increasingly untenable?
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Post by oldie on Sept 29, 2022 9:31:36 GMT
No I agree. It is the responsibility of DRIVER to ensure that any car they drive is fully insured, MoT etc. Isn't it strange that people that have consistent contact with the police or other branches of the administration always have an excuse. It's never their fault. It's an attitude, a state of mind. A state of mind can fluctuate between a good or bad place, or in between - maybe he wasn't in a state of mind to think about whether or not his brother had insured the car? Because he was due in court on a charge of assault on his wife, perhaps? And, what about his brother? I believe it was his car. He must have known the vehicle was uninsured, what kind of family is that? One that willingly puts his brother in a situation where they are breaking the law. In terms of forgetting, yeah sure. But the DVLA text me when my MoT is due, text me when my Road Tax is due (it's on DD so I don't miss it) and my insurance company send me the renewal quote 30 days before the current policy is up. This is not me being "holier than thou" as you infer, this is being normal. You appear to be defending the abnormal, at best, and those that have scant regard for the law, at worse. Come on Bath, there is no excuse.
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