irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Jun 4, 2020 12:56:55 GMT
Definitely good news - its fits my 'what have you done for me lately' criteria for our owners as well.
Even if it is just a couple of portakabins - it's still a statement of intent. A few months ago the rumour was we were looking to abandon the whole site. This clearly represents a significant commitment.
The really critical issue will be pitch quality and durability. My understanding is that the main problem we've had all the training sites we've used is that the pitches have not been up to the wear and tear.
It is a clear step forward though - going back over a decade now managers have identified the training facilities as a major obstacle for attracting and retaining players so hopefully this will begin to allow us to compete better.
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Post by Delsy on Jun 4, 2020 13:29:00 GMT
Being out there at Almonds...Bury like they will just hae to make sure that they add in to the material schedules plenty of that chicken wire stuff and then the pitches should be fine !
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Post by harrybuckle on Jun 4, 2020 13:54:16 GMT
Being out there at Almonds...Bury like they will just hae to make sure that they add in to the material schedules plenty of that chicken wire stuff and then the pitches should be fine ! Harry Redknapp just sold his house at Sandbanks and buying a new property in Almondsbury for him and Sandra plus John Barnes to be close to the colony?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jun 4, 2020 14:12:46 GMT
There's nothing like liking your own posts! 🤪 ^^^
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Rex
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Post by Rex on Jun 4, 2020 14:18:08 GMT
this appears to be very very good news - but let's just remember the Rovers motto boys and girls, 'I'll believe it when I'm sat in it'Absolutely. However, I am hearing from people on the contracting side of things, it's a goer. Very pleased if this is the case, but it being Rovers, I can't help but wonder where it will go wrong!
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Post by matealotblue on Jun 4, 2020 14:22:31 GMT
this appears to be very very good news - but let's just remember the Rovers motto boys and girls, 'I'll believe it when I'm sat in it'Absolutely. However, I am hearing from people on the contracting side of things, it's a goer. Very pleased if this is the case, but it being Rovers, I can't help but wonder where it will go wrong! The arrival of Santa’s Grotto maybe.....🤪
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jun 4, 2020 19:10:23 GMT
This doesn't seem to fit in with any of the conspiracy theories. Makes us a much more viable club to sell, not that I think we will be sold.
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Post by toteend3 on Jun 4, 2020 19:28:31 GMT
Could be the first tentative step towards redemption!
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Post by PessimistGas on Jun 4, 2020 19:43:13 GMT
this appears to be very very good news - but let's just remember the Rovers motto boys and girls, 'I'll believe it when I'm sat in it'Absolutely. However, I am hearing from people on the contracting side of things, it's a goer. Very pleased if this is the case, but it being Rovers, I can't help but wonder where it will go wrong! What's a goer? A full planning application and a proper facility fit for professional football club? If this is indeed the prelude to that then this is great news. If they are just putting in a couple of pitches and some shipping containers because Cribbs was a no go and they couldn't find anywhere else suitable to rent, not so much. The figures I was hearing just to connect utilities back in the day were eye watering. That would indeed require a significant investment. A cautious welcome from me, but forgive me if I'm not punching the air in jubilation. But hopefully the first step in winning back trust and reversing the malaise that has set in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 23:36:36 GMT
I'm happy to accept evolution not revolution, if it means that each season BRFC has a better training ground, better matchday ground, more sustainable business, slightly better league placing, and slightly more secure footing.
They don't, yet. I'm watching.
Show me you mean it, Mr Al Qadi.
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Rex
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Post by Rex on Jun 5, 2020 7:13:35 GMT
Absolutely. However, I am hearing from people on the contracting side of things, it's a goer. Very pleased if this is the case, but it being Rovers, I can't help but wonder where it will go wrong! What's a goer? A full planning application and a proper facility fit for professional football club?If this is indeed the prelude to that then this is great news. If they are just putting in a couple of pitches and some shipping containers because Cribbs was a no go and they couldn't find anywhere else suitable to rent, not so much. The figures I was hearing just to connect utilities back in the day were eye watering. That would indeed require a significant investment. A cautious welcome from me, but forgive me if I'm not punching the air in jubilation. But hopefully the first step in winning back trust and reversing the malaise that has set in. I'm afraid I can't add any more than what I was told that it was going ahead, I could have asked for more details but frankly when it comes to Rovers I am firmly in the 'believe it when I see it' camp, so didn't bother.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jun 5, 2020 7:57:48 GMT
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Post by knowall on Jun 5, 2020 17:06:26 GMT
I'm happy to accept evolution not revolution, if it means that each season BRFC has a better training ground, better matchday ground, more sustainable business, slightly better league placing, and slightly more secure footing. They don't, yet. I'm watching. Show me you mean it, Mr Al Qadi. I have worries because there is no electricity or toilet facilities there and planning permission is dubious - perhaps Wael will explain how he can overcome these potential problems?
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Post by a more piratey game on Jun 5, 2020 17:35:45 GMT
I'm happy to accept evolution not revolution, if it means that each season BRFC has a better training ground, better matchday ground, more sustainable business, slightly better league placing, and slightly more secure footing. They don't, yet. I'm watching. Show me you mean it, Mr Al Qadi. I have worries because there is no electricity or toilet facilities there and planning permission is dubious - perhaps Wael will explain how he can overcome these potential problems? I have worries because fanaticalall doesn't explain why he asserts what he asserts, and on balance I tend to find WAQ much more plausible - which, I realise, is not an easy thing to say
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Post by knowall on Jun 5, 2020 17:45:33 GMT
I have worries because there is no electricity or toilet facilities there and planning permission is dubious - perhaps Wael will explain how he can overcome these potential problems? I have worries because fanaticalall doesn't explain why he asserts what he asserts, and on balance I tend to find WAQ much more plausible - which, I realise, is not an easy thing to say In that case please explain why you think there is electricity to the site and also drainage and in particular sewerage? Without those basic facilities how can the Club expect to have a 'world beating' training site? which will attract players?
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Post by a more piratey game on Jun 5, 2020 17:47:58 GMT
I have worries because fanaticalall doesn't explain why he asserts what he asserts, and on balance I tend to find WAQ much more plausible - which, I realise, is not an easy thing to say In that case please explain why you think there is electricity to the site and also drainage and in particular sewerage? Without those basic facilities how can the Club expect to have a 'world beating' training site? which will attract players? nope, I'm not doing your work for you. If you've read this forum over time, you'll know why I find your views lack credibility (as well as being poorly-mannered) if you want to make an assertion, I think it behoves you to back it up - and stop asking me/WAQ/others to do the work for you
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Peter Parker
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Post by Peter Parker on Jun 5, 2020 20:03:44 GMT
I'm happy to accept evolution not revolution, if it means that each season BRFC has a better training ground, better matchday ground, more sustainable business, slightly better league placing, and slightly more secure footing. They don't, yet. I'm watching. Show me you mean it, Mr Al Qadi. I have worries because there is no electricity or toilet facilities there and planning permission is dubious - perhaps Wael will explain how he can overcome these potential problems? I mean, yes these things need doing, but I doubt they are just rocking up and digging are they. The site has previous planning permissions including a clubhouse for which we did or wanted to make some changes to conditions I dont know what is achievable in any particular timescale. Perhaps though they have actually thought about these potential problems and you shouldnt worry yourself
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 5, 2020 21:40:17 GMT
I have worries because fanaticalall doesn't explain why he asserts what he asserts, and on balance I tend to find WAQ much more plausible - which, I realise, is not an easy thing to say In that case please explain why you think there is electricity to the site and also drainage and in particular sewerage? Without those basic facilities how can the Club expect to have a 'world beating' training site? which will attract players? A septic tank can deal with the sewerage issues, drainage will be something the contractors surely can sort out, electricity just needs somebody to pay for it to be run the site, given the JV hall is nearby it's not like The Colony is miles away from the nearest electricity source. If we're really going to build changing rooms etc I assume we're talking about a sizable investment not just mowing the grass and then using it as a training ground, so installing electric etc does seem the biggest cost. Given diggers are apparently already on site this seems more this time than Wael just making an announcement to the media, then we hear nothing further for months.
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Post by womble on Jun 6, 2020 0:27:19 GMT
I have worries because there is no electricity or toilet facilities there and planning permission is dubious - perhaps Wael will explain how he can overcome these potential problems? I mean, yes these things need doing, but I doubt they are just rocking up and digging are they. The site has previous planning permissions including a clubhouse for which we did or wanted to make some changes to conditions I dont know what is achievable in any particular timescale. Perhaps though they have actually thought about these potential problems and you shouldnt worry yourself Yes, there is an existing planning permission for a building big enough for eight changing rooms, bar, kitchen, lounge area etc. We applied for the removal of a planning condition that prevented use of the pitches before 6pm on school days. South Glos agreed to remove the condition.
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Post by Rex on Jun 6, 2020 6:28:30 GMT
I have worries because fanaticalall doesn't explain why he asserts what he asserts, and on balance I tend to find WAQ much more plausible - which, I realise, is not an easy thing to say In that case please explain why you think there is electricity to the site and also drainage and in particular sewerage? Without those basic facilities how can the Club expect to have a 'world beating' training site? which will attract players? FWIW (admittedly not much) my comment about me hearing that it was 'a goer' was from people within the electrical trade.
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