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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 11:44:23 GMT
Delighted that Oldie disagrees.
The day he thinks I'm right is the day I have something horribly wrong.
This happened to you on the other forum as well, didn't it, started arguments that you couldn't finish, it was with Nobby and that guy who used to be Bernard Briggs on here I think, you got all stressy and called names over there as well.
Anyway, life's too short for regrets, having said that, I've spent the last 9 weeks reconsidering the wisdom of launching all those toilet rolls onto the pitch in the 1970s.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 12:10:07 GMT
Delighted that Oldie disagrees. The day he thinks I'm right is the day I have something horribly wrong. This happened to you on the other forum as well, didn't it, started arguments that you couldn't finish, it was with Nobby and that guy who used to be Bernard Briggs on here I think, you got all stressy and called names over there as well. Anyway, life's too short for regrets, having said that, I've spent the last 9 weeks reconsidering the wisdom of launching all those toilet rolls onto the pitch in the 1970s. This beyond parody. I am becoming genuinely concerned for your mental well being. Do yourself a favour, take a break.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 12:31:55 GMT
I'm absolutely fine.
Looks like we've touched a nerve here, doesn't it.
Would you like me to pop to the other forum and copy some of your crazy rants from there onto here? Again, as you seem to think I have an interest in you, I don't, a neighbour asked me out of the blue if I had any idea who Oldie was and to look at what was being written under that name on the other forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 12:49:19 GMT
I'm absolutely fine. Looks like we've touched a nerve here, doesn't it. Would you like me to pop to the other forum and copy some of your crazy rants from there onto here? Again, as you seem to think I have an interest in you, I don't, a neighbour asked me out of the blue if I had any idea who Oldie was and to look at what was being written under that name on the other forum. Like I said, take a break.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 14:51:22 GMT
I think you are waffling about calling Oldie out for being a hypocrite, not understanding issues, being a pre-suppositionalist and continually failing to look at what people are giving to support their opinion whilst posting his own supporting material, presumably because he thinks people should take the effort to investigate it, which I afforded him the courtesy of doing. I suspect that you also don't like the statement of fact about the Catholic Church. Sorry about that, but I'm not responsible for their behaviour. You are aware that it is their position that homosexuality is a sin? This isn't up for negotiation, it's punishable by an eternity in Hell. At least they are close enough to being Biblical literalists not to have adopted the version of Hell created in the mind of Dante Alighieri but still regarded as real by other denominations. For them Hell is just an eternity of separation from their God, well, at least they have that right. Now, how about you do what you always tell others to do, address the argument not the person (I could actually give you a lesson on what an ad-hominem is here, but we'll save that for another time, as you've used the term incorrectly in the past) tell me what I have wrong? I'm totally confident in everything that I've written. The problem is, you need to go beyond the news headlines to find the facts, but even Oldie's own star witness agrees. The really funny thing is, he didn't realise it. Wrong, repeatedly. You even know this cut and paste job doesn't fit me. I chose not to join this debate. I thought I could read two thinkers debating an issue, but you want to debate Oldie's character not arguments so I wrote what I did. You've got me very wrong on several points, but I don't care, because it's boring. You used to be interesting. I'm done with this thread, as it appears are you. Goodnight.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 15:03:43 GMT
I think you are waffling about calling Oldie out for being a hypocrite, not understanding issues, being a pre-suppositionalist and continually failing to look at what people are giving to support their opinion whilst posting his own supporting material, presumably because he thinks people should take the effort to investigate it, which I afforded him the courtesy of doing. I suspect that you also don't like the statement of fact about the Catholic Church. Sorry about that, but I'm not responsible for their behaviour. You are aware that it is their position that homosexuality is a sin? This isn't up for negotiation, it's punishable by an eternity in Hell. At least they are close enough to being Biblical literalists not to have adopted the version of Hell created in the mind of Dante Alighieri but still regarded as real by other denominations. For them Hell is just an eternity of separation from their God, well, at least they have that right. Now, how about you do what you always tell others to do, address the argument not the person (I could actually give you a lesson on what an ad-hominem is here, but we'll save that for another time, as you've used the term incorrectly in the past) tell me what I have wrong? I'm totally confident in everything that I've written. The problem is, you need to go beyond the news headlines to find the facts, but even Oldie's own star witness agrees. The really funny thing is, he didn't realise it. Wrong, repeatedly. You even know this cut and paste job doesn't fit me. I chose not to join this debate. I thought I could read two thinkers debating an issue, but you want to debate Oldie's character not arguments so I wrote what I did. You've got me very wrong on several points, but I don't care, because it's boring. You used to be interesting. I'm done with this thread, as it appears are you. Goodnight. Seconded
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 15:36:11 GMT
I think you are waffling about calling Oldie out for being a hypocrite, not understanding issues, being a pre-suppositionalist and continually failing to look at what people are giving to support their opinion whilst posting his own supporting material, presumably because he thinks people should take the effort to investigate it, which I afforded him the courtesy of doing. I suspect that you also don't like the statement of fact about the Catholic Church. Sorry about that, but I'm not responsible for their behaviour. You are aware that it is their position that homosexuality is a sin? This isn't up for negotiation, it's punishable by an eternity in Hell. At least they are close enough to being Biblical literalists not to have adopted the version of Hell created in the mind of Dante Alighieri but still regarded as real by other denominations. For them Hell is just an eternity of separation from their God, well, at least they have that right. Now, how about you do what you always tell others to do, address the argument not the person (I could actually give you a lesson on what an ad-hominem is here, but we'll save that for another time, as you've used the term incorrectly in the past) tell me what I have wrong? I'm totally confident in everything that I've written. The problem is, you need to go beyond the news headlines to find the facts, but even Oldie's own star witness agrees. The really funny thing is, he didn't realise it. Wrong, repeatedly. You even know this cut and paste job doesn't fit me. I chose not to join this debate. I thought I could read two thinkers debating an issue, but you want to debate Oldie's character not arguments so I wrote what I did. You've got me very wrong on several points, but I don't care, because it's boring. You used to be interesting. I'm done with this thread, as it appears are you. Goodnight. That's not quite what happened. I tried to get him to debate, time after time after time. I gave up because he looked determined to defend a pre-determined conclusion. You said it was a shame. I tried again. Same result. He's not interested in anything that doesn't fit what he already thinks is correct. I read his links, he didn't even look at the studies I provided. That looks like reasonable behaviour on one side, not on the other. I tried to get him to address the issues, he wouldn't. What can I do faced with that closed minded attitude? It's a strange thing that people will wear their rainbow laces with 'Pride', but ignore the disgusting bigotry of an institution, just because the people uttering the words have a title in front of their name. Very disappointing that neither you nor Oldie are willing to speak out against institutionalised homophobia. Oh well, I am, and I make no apology for doing so.
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