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Post by prideofbristol on Dec 16, 2019 11:01:04 GMT
There is no need to insult the bloke. He has the intelligence and nous to a} Save us from pretty definite relegation last season B) Get us to 4th in this League in December- something DC never got us anywhere near c) At least at the present time, we are still in the FA Cup and the Mickey Mouse Cup d) Make us a very difficult side to beat He may not be the brightest in interviews but who cares? DC was hardly bright in constantly moaning and criticising the owners- it was only going to end one way and where is he managing now? If GC goes to Mansfield I will despise him for the way he has gone about it unless he has been given information by the Board that we don't know about ie we are being taken over and you won't be Manager!! I will wait and see what transpires but I just can't see anyway he can now continue as our Manager. UTG At last, someone who isn’t denigrating what GC has achieved. The point from my perspective is what happened to turn Graham from the happiest I have seen him on last weeks match preview to the person we saw at what quite frankly was his best result yet. There is something seriously wrong and finding out the truth behind this should be the focus of attention. Nobody is denigrating what he has achieved. They are complaining about the lack of respect he appears to have shown to the board, his players and the fans. I imagine Wael and Hani are feeling pretty unhappy at the moment, and with considerable justification. And let's also think about the players who he persuaded to move to the club. It isn't all about GC!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 11:01:51 GMT
In terms of what comes out of his mouth, he is a liability. He says he doesn't do politics, but that is because he is not bright enough. Utterly classless, and speaks to your insight more than our manager's.
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Post by basel on Dec 16, 2019 11:30:25 GMT
In terms of what comes out of his mouth, he is a liability. He says he doesn't do politics, but that is because he is not bright enough. How very 'remainer'. GC is a bloody good football man and that takes intelligence.
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Post by basel on Dec 16, 2019 11:36:28 GMT
In terms of what comes out of his mouth, he is a liability. He says he doesn't do politics, but that is because he is not bright enough. How very 'remainer'. GC is a bloody good football man and that takes intelligence. Having said that,I get being angry with GC.Looks like he is off. The club have now given him permission to talk to MTFC. Another Rovers saga of crap.
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Post by Angas on Dec 16, 2019 11:51:38 GMT
The way I see it, GC is a very emotional man. What came out in the interview was pent up emotion. He's also honest in his answers to questions, therefore when asked "How far can you take this club" he was caught off guard and it all spilled out.
I'm not happy with the way we heard, especially when it poured ice cold water on what should have been a pretty joyous day. But that's who he is, a man who answers questions honestly and instantly and who was so close to being able to sit down and talk to his family that he just couldn't give a politician style answer.
None of us can help who we are. Some on here are clearly blessed to be rational, clear thinking human beings. Others of us speak before thinking and afterwards wish we'd kept quiet or at least worded things differently.
So often on here you read understanding comments about players choosing to 'do what's best for them and their family and who among us wouldn't do the same'. Maybe the same understanding should be shown to GC.
And regardless of all that, if he's off he's off. Makes a change at least, for a manager to leave us before being sacked. Was Bobby Gould the last one to do that?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 16, 2019 12:35:14 GMT
A few days ago someone said to me that when you have been away from Bristol for a few years you have a very different view of Rovers matters compared to those who have stayed. Nothing illustrates this more than events of the past few weeks when first the Chairman left with no explanation from the club and now the manager appears to be leaving as well. I dare not post on the other forum tonight because my views are so out of step with the majority of fans many of whom seem to think this state of affairs is quite normal and that Wael will soon sort it out. Am I the only one who thinks that Wael seems to have some sort of hold over many Gasheads ? If I was Hani Al-Qadi I should be encouraging Wael to do a deal with anyone he could to take the club off his family’s hands and stop further liabilities running up. A few weeks ago I was posting about the possibility of Dwane Sports agreeing to sell the Mem to developers but let Rovers (with new majority shareholders) stay on for up to three years while a new stadium was built. Now I think it is far more likely that the football club will have new owners and Wael will retain a shareholding but the ground will have to be sold immediately to repay the loan. If this happens I think Wael and the new owners will negotiate a ground share with a local club and sell the idea to fans that this is a temporary measure while they finalize plans for a new permanent home. If this scenario does take place I hope Gasheads at last come to their senses and have the courage to start asking searching questions about the strategy and finances of the restructured club. If we do that, and the new owners know we are going to do it, there is a chance they will come up with a viable plan. If we carry on thinking we are being loyal by taking the attitude “leave them alone, they must know what they are doing” I am afraid the haphazard meanderings of the last four years will continue and it is likely to end in tears. Absolutely spot on. We are probably the most apathetic bunch of fans. Could you imagine how the 82 would react ? Beggars belief that we just accept it and most believe in the trite nonsense. Merry bloody Xmas gasheads. Never a quiet moment eh. Would like to see a crowd at least giving box 1 a hard time but it won’t happen because Ollie will save us ffs
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Post by manchestergas on Dec 16, 2019 12:49:03 GMT
The way I see it, GC is a very emotional man. What came out in the interview was pent up emotion. He's also honest in his answers to questions, therefore when asked "How far can you take this club" he was caught off guard and it all spilled out. I'm not happy with the way we heard, especially when it poured ice cold water on what should have been a pretty joyous day. But that's who he is, a man who answers questions honestly and instantly and who was so close to being able to sit down and talk to his family that he just couldn't give a politician style answer. None of us can help who we are. Some on here are clearly blessed to be rational, clear thinking human beings. Others of us speak before thinking and afterwards wish we'd kept quiet or at least worded things differently. So often on here you read understanding comments about players choosing to 'do what's best for them and their family and who among us wouldn't do the same'. Maybe the same understanding should be shown to GC. And regardless of all that, if he's off he's off. Makes a change at least, for a manager to leave us before being sacked. Was Bobby Gould the last one to do that? To be fair though Ann, he initiated the change of tact in the interview. I suspect the interviewer knew something was wrong, but he dd not initiate that line of questioning. The interviewer was shocked he was saying it and thought his Christmas's had come at once. I live outside Bristol and for one of the first times ever tuned into the phone in after the game on the internet given it was such a good result. It was a standard post match interview and then he blurted it out. He initiated it. His actions are all odd. All the media comment think his actions odd. Beating his chest to the fans after the game, then apparently telling the team he is leaving and then saying he had a big question to consider. All very odd. If he wants to leave, he leaves. Talks in the background not this. He has acted in a totally unprofessional manner whatever his problems with the club. For him, I hope he is successful, as this will be remembered by others if he is not.
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Post by Angas on Dec 16, 2019 13:12:02 GMT
I'd say the interviewer did initiate the response. By asking how far GC could take this club (a pretty standard question given our unexpected league position and having just been only the second team to beat Ipswich at home this season), when GC has obviously been thinking about the Mansfield approach for a while and was about to go and talk to his family about it.
What answer could he give. Should he have said nothing, giving us no clue that he might be leaving. And then have the club issue that statement this morning. That wouldn't have gone down any better than his ramblings on Saturday. So whichever way it was done, we'd have had plenty to say about the rights and wrongs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 17:15:44 GMT
The way I see it, GC is a very emotional man. What came out in the interview was pent up emotion. He's also honest in his answers to questions, therefore when asked "How far can you take this club" he was caught off guard and it all spilled out. I'm not happy with the way we heard, especially when it poured ice cold water on what should have been a pretty joyous day. But that's who he is, a man who answers questions honestly and instantly and who was so close to being able to sit down and talk to his family that he just couldn't give a politician style answer. None of us can help who we are. Some on here are clearly blessed to be rational, clear thinking human beings. Others of us speak before thinking and afterwards wish we'd kept quiet or at least worded things differently. So often on here you read understanding comments about players choosing to 'do what's best for them and their family and who among us wouldn't do the same'. Maybe the same understanding should be shown to GC. And regardless of all that, if he's off he's off. Makes a change at least, for a manager to leave us before being sacked. Was Bobby Gould the last one to do that? This seems an entirely reasonable response. Also, many of us aren't going. Many more go, but moan about GC. The football I've seen has been lousy. Yet, he was here a year and we're better off. We were heading towards the relegation zone. He's left us without us having to pay him off. He's left us without another sacking. Lastly, and I cannot stress this enough, he's left us before just the transfer window placed fourth in the third division. This is the highest Rovers have ever been for me. I didn't expect to want him to sign a contract extension. I was partially looking forward to his contract ending, if it meant a return of the the sort of excitement we had with his predecessor. Now we can appoint a manager to sign a player in January, sat fourth in the third division. Everybody's a winner here. Maybe.
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Post by basel on Dec 17, 2019 12:09:41 GMT
Coughlan has gone.Official.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 17, 2019 12:23:09 GMT
Coughlan has gone.Official. Yayyy! Thanks for the good times and good luck with your own ambitions.....but it's always good to get rid of something that doesn't want to be here including a tickly Cough.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 12:23:58 GMT
Coughlan has gone.Official. Hope they lose 10 in a row and he gets sacked. Loyalty is everything in my outdated little world.
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Post by Angas on Dec 17, 2019 13:38:19 GMT
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 17, 2019 13:51:43 GMT
I guess it's convenient for both parties to hide behind "needs to spend more time nearer his family in Sheffield". But I'm not buying it. Why "now" exactly? This is the highest profile and most successful GC has ever been... but with Rovers 4th in Division 1 NOW is the right time to go. Really? Moving for more money 60%. Moving to a Club with ambition and a transfer budget 30%. Moving to be nearer his family, a rather generous 10%.
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Post by Angas on Dec 17, 2019 13:54:40 GMT
Because now is when the offer came in, most likely.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 13:57:52 GMT
I love a good conspiracy me.
Now, let's have a little think.
Who do we know, from Mansfield, who may be a bit butt hurt at how he was treated recently by Rovers so could have been in the (ex) manager's ear and agitated to set this whole mess in motion?
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 17, 2019 14:01:25 GMT
GC has officially left the building and Rovers announced in "no hurry" to get a replacement and Wael has decided to give it a go as caretaker manager with Manse starting tonight at Plymouth.
He has named Jordan former under-19 international defender Ghassan Abu Hassan on the bench and has loaned JCH to Bristol City with a view to a permanent move come May !
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 17, 2019 14:15:18 GMT
Because now is when the offer came in, most likely. Yup, first chance to jump ship and he's off. I'm not slagging him off. He's gone to a Club that has more money to spend than BRFC and more ambition. We can't compete with Mansfield FFS. Seriously - anyone who thinks this move has been done primarily (and almost exclusively by the sound of the interview) for family reasons really needs to wake up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 15:25:33 GMT
The way I see it, GC is a very emotional man. What came out in the interview was pent up emotion. He's also honest in his answers to questions, therefore when asked "How far can you take this club" he was caught off guard and it all spilled out. I'm not happy with the way we heard, especially when it poured ice cold water on what should have been a pretty joyous day. But that's who he is, a man who answers questions honestly and instantly and who was so close to being able to sit down and talk to his family that he just couldn't give a politician style answer. None of us can help who we are. Some on here are clearly blessed to be rational, clear thinking human beings. Others of us speak before thinking and afterwards wish we'd kept quiet or at least worded things differently. So often on here you read understanding comments about players choosing to 'do what's best for them and their family and who among us wouldn't do the same'. Maybe the same understanding should be shown to GC. And regardless of all that, if he's off he's off. Makes a change at least, for a manager to leave us before being sacked. Was Bobby Gould the last one to do that? Really good post,in some ways coughlan and dc are similar in that when interviewed they both are prone to letting emotion get the better of them.
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Post by trymer on Dec 17, 2019 15:38:25 GMT
Coughlan has gone.Official. Hope they lose 10 in a row and he gets sacked. Loyalty is everything in my outdated little world. Was there more loyalty back in the day ? I don't think so its just rose tinted nostalgia. Anyway Coughlan has been offered a job that suits him better / pays more so he has gone,someone else will get the Rovers job and probably leave when they get a better offer unless they get sacked first.
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