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Post by zfc on Jul 23, 2014 17:51:50 GMT
After Chisora pulled out of Staurdays fight with Fury due to a broken hand we all thought thats that.
Fury will now fight Alexander Ustinov on Saturday probably a bigger fight than the original with big Dereck. Ustinov is 6ft 7 and has knocked out 21 opponents and only been beaten once by unbeaten Pulev who fights Wlad Klitschko in a few months time.
Fair play to Fury this is a huge gamble and I cannot wait for the fight.
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Post by tbonegas on Jul 23, 2014 19:27:42 GMT
After Chisora pulled out of Staurdays fight with Fury due to a broken hand we all thought thats that. Fury will now fight Alexander Ustinov on Saturday probably a bigger fight than the original with big Dereck. Ustinov is 6ft 7 and has knocked out 21 opponents and only been beaten once by unbeaten Pulev who fights Wlad Klitschko in a few months time. Fair play to Fury this is a huge gamble and I cannot wait for the fight. I also cannot wait,will you be there? Or are you watching on the telly? Who do you think will win?.As soon as you tell me,I will bet on the other bloke.You are bloody crap at predictions. How are you anyway matey?
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Post by supersteve73 on Jul 24, 2014 9:24:52 GMT
Chisora is washed up anyway saved himself a beating.
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Post by zfc on Jul 24, 2014 17:56:14 GMT
Yeah course he is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 18:38:20 GMT
Dale Boy has a half decent chin, but didn't look more more than a massive blob and a street brawler against Haye. But Fury is even worse. As you say, if he seriously thinks he can win a world title then this fight is a big risk, I can't ever remember such a bang average fighter who has such a high opinion of himself. Just look at the physical condition of the bloke, Mr Blobby, and that's after 3 consecutive training camps. Any half decent fighter will bang him over in a couple of rounds. Money talks, so I'm half expecting a 'technical' knockout in Fury's favour.
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Post by zfc on Jul 24, 2014 21:11:53 GMT
Unfair to judge Chisora against Haye seeing as Haye is a superb counterpuncher who was all wrong for Dereck.
Say what you want about Fury he is still a baby in heavyweight terms but he has all the tools to be a world champion.
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Post by YateTown on Jul 24, 2014 22:32:10 GMT
But how can a 'baby' such as Fury look like that, when AJ looks so much different?
I think it's a difference in commitment to the sport, and Fury has none, the way he conducts himself, and the way he conducted himself at the press conference is vile, there's trash talk, then there's Fury!
Unfortunately I don't have Warrens channel, as the guy is a fraud, but will there be streams online? Really want to see Eubank! Surely he has to go to Hearn soon?!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 22:57:55 GMT
Unfair to judge Chisora against Haye seeing as Haye is a superb counterpuncher who was all wrong for Dereck. Say what you want about Fury he is still a baby in heavyweight terms but he has all the tools to be a world champion. If Fury ever becomes a world champion it will be because there aren't any Mexican road sweepers left so they have to send girl guides instead. The bloke's an embarrasment to the sport, inside and out of the ring. The fact that we are talking about 'slow motion Ustinov' as a dangerous opponant for Fury says all you need to know about how poor he is. Maybe he'll improve, but I've never seen him looking physically fit, just look at the state of him today, and with each passing year it get's harder to keep the fat at bay. Real fighters like Tyson, Lewis, Hollyfield or even Bruno would sit him on his behind in a round.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 14:49:36 GMT
I enjoyed Fury calling out Liverpool Ladies player Lucy Bronze on twitter for a fight. Bloke's a moron.
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Post by zfc on Jul 25, 2014 17:20:28 GMT
But how can a 'baby' such as Fury look like that, when AJ looks so much different? I think it's a difference in commitment to the sport, and Fury has none, the way he conducts himself, and the way he conducted himself at the press conference is vile, there's trash talk, then there's Fury! Unfortunately I don't have Warrens channel, as the guy is a fraud, but will there be streams online? Really want to see Eubank! Surely he has to go to Hearn soon?! Fury would starch AJ in a couple of rounds easily.I don`t know why you are obsessed with body looks that means nothing when you get in the ring.Sure Fury looks a little soft but you can be sure he isn`t using PED`s can the same be said of the stiff robotic throw one twos AJ? People might not like Fury thats up to them but in the ring he is a genuine talent who has got all the tools to win a genuine version of the world title. Mexicans dont fight for the heavyweight title Bamber so have a clue before you post.
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Post by tbonegas on Jul 25, 2014 20:37:23 GMT
But how can a 'baby' such as Fury look like that, when AJ looks so much different? I think it's a difference in commitment to the sport, and Fury has none, the way he conducts himself, and the way he conducted himself at the press conference is vile, there's trash talk, then there's Fury! Unfortunately I don't have Warrens channel, as the guy is a fraud, but will there be streams online? Really want to see Eubank! Surely he has to go to Hearn soon?! Fury would starch AJ in a couple of rounds easily.I don`t know why you are obsessed with body looks that means nothing when you get in the ring.Sure Fury looks a little soft but you can be sure he isn`t using PED`s can the same be said of the stiff robotic throw one twos AJ? People might not like Fury thats up to them but in the ring he is a genuine talent who has got all the tools to win a genuine version of the world title. Mexicans dont fight for the heavyweight title Bamber so have a clue before you post. Andy Ruiz is a Mexican heavyweight boxer, Mr Know All. Perhaps you should have a clue before you belittle other posters.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 22:02:07 GMT
Fury would starch AJ in a couple of rounds easily.I don`t know why you are obsessed with body looks that means nothing when you get in the ring.Sure Fury looks a little soft but you can be sure he isn`t using PED`s can the same be said of the stiff robotic throw one twos AJ? People might not like Fury thats up to them but in the ring he is a genuine talent who has got all the tools to win a genuine version of the world title. Mexicans dont fight for the heavyweight title Bamber so have a clue before you post. Andy Ruiz is a Mexican heavyweight boxer, Mr Know All. Perhaps you should have a clue before you belittle other posters. Beat me to it, Ruiz Jr. But I'm not sure he ever even talked about a real World title. But Manuel Ramos, from Mexico City, representing Mexico, did fight for a world title. Then there's a list of Mexican heavyweights who have become American citizens. Quick ZFC, Google, Google, hurry hurry. Physical condition doesn't matter for professional fighters, I've heard it all now Fury is just a big lump with an even bigger mouth, the moment he gets into the ring with anyone of any quality he'll get sparked in a couple of rounds.
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Post by tbonegas on Jul 26, 2014 7:54:52 GMT
Andy Ruiz is a Mexican heavyweight boxer, Mr Know All. Perhaps you should have a clue before you belittle other posters. Beat me to it, Ruiz Jr. But I'm not sure he ever even talked about a real World title. But Manuel Ramos, from Mexico City, representing Mexico, did fight for a world title. Then there's a list of Mexican heavyweights who have become American citizens. Quick ZFC, Google, Google, hurry hurry. Physical condition doesn't matter for professional fighters, I've heard it all now Fury is just a big lump with an even bigger mouth, the moment he gets into the ring with anyone of any quality he'll get sparked in a couple of rounds. Look,lets get things right shall we?. Mr Know All says that Mexicans don't fight for Heavyweight titles.That should be good enough. The same as Herol Bomber Graham never ever fought at Super Middle.This bloke is a mine of information,dont ever question anything he says,or you will be called all sorts of things.
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Post by zfc on Jul 26, 2014 9:01:38 GMT
Andy Ruiz is a Mexican heavyweight boxer, Mr Know All. Perhaps you should have a clue before you belittle other posters. Beat me to it, Ruiz Jr. But I'm not sure he ever even talked about a real World title. But Manuel Ramos, from Mexico City, representing Mexico, did fight for a world title. Then there's a list of Mexican heavyweights who have become American citizens. Quick ZFC, Google, Google, hurry hurry. Physical condition doesn't matter for professional fighters, I've heard it all now Fury is just a big lump with an even bigger mouth, the moment he gets into the ring with anyone of any quality he'll get sparked in a couple of rounds. Ruiz was a genuine world champion who fought and beat the likes of Evander Holyfield hardly a roadsweeper was he? In fact Fury has never fought a Mexican let alone a road sweeper.The heavyweight ratings are not full of Mexicans and never have been as they tend to dominate the smaller weight classes. In your desperation to try and get one on me you have had to dig into the 70s archives to find a Mexican who fought Joe Frazier rather pathetic really but no surprise.So where are all these Mexican gatekeepers who Fury can win a world title from? The fight is off now Fury pulled out as his trainer is seriously ill and was taken to hospital.
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Post by brizzle on Jul 26, 2014 12:10:48 GMT
Unfair to judge Chisora against Haye seeing as Haye is a superb counterpuncher who was all wrong for Dereck. Say what you want about Fury he is still a baby in heavyweight terms but he has all the tools to be a world champion.It just goes to prove how far boxing, and heavyweight boxing in particular, has fallen then. I'm afraid that the man's name alone says all that you need to know about him. Loud, brash and uncouth are just a few adjectives, but nowhere is the traditional mark of a top contender like good manners, humour and humility. Now it's true that boxers usually became a little ''edgy'' in the run-up to a fight, but in between fights they were always the model of good manners and charm. I suppose that this is something that we have to thank Mike Tyson for having lost . . . probably for ever, but he was exceptional in more ways than one. But in the final analysis compare Henry Cooper's (or 101 former fighters) public persona with the present mob. Talking tough doesn't always cut it, people (I think) prefer to see gentlemen boxing, not loud-mouthed boors.
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Post by zfc on Jul 26, 2014 12:34:37 GMT
You must hate Muhammad Ali then.
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Post by YateTown on Jul 26, 2014 14:03:39 GMT
So Fury is now no better than Haye and Derek in pulling out of fights, I'm pretty sure Fury said once that he'd never pull out of a fight, and lambasted Haye and Derek, I guess Fury is a s**thouse too.
Shame.
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Post by supersteve73 on Jul 26, 2014 14:34:04 GMT
the heavyweight scene is a complete non event, Fury is average at best Chisora is washed up and Price is a bum. Lets hope Joshua has something about him.
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Post by tbonegas on Jul 26, 2014 15:31:19 GMT
You must hate Muhammad Ali then. If you say he does,he must do.Because as we all know,you know more than anybody on here.
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Post by brizzle on Jul 26, 2014 15:37:08 GMT
You must hate Muhammad Ali then. No, not ar all zfc, in fact quite the opposite. I remember Muhammed Ali to be a wonderfully talented boxer and fighter in the ring, and outside of it he was a charming and engaging fellow who was a great humanitarian. He most certainly was a far more complex character than your run-of-the-mill pugilist, but he always appeared to me to be two completely different characters. The boxer and the real person. He was capable of great acts of kindness outside of the ring, but quite the opposite (on occasions) inside it. I'm thinking specifically here of his fight in the mid-1960s with Ernie Terrell. But in boxing terms he was a real champion, something that Tyson Fury can only ever aspire to be. In the British Top 10 of British Heavyweight boxers, I would rank him at 99th . . . on a good day, and the wind being in the right direction, that is.
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