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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 15:41:59 GMT
Beat me to it, Ruiz Jr. But I'm not sure he ever even talked about a real World title. But Manuel Ramos, from Mexico City, representing Mexico, did fight for a world title. Then there's a list of Mexican heavyweights who have become American citizens. Quick ZFC, Google, Google, hurry hurry. Physical condition doesn't matter for professional fighters, I've heard it all now  Fury is just a big lump with an even bigger mouth, the moment he gets into the ring with anyone of any quality he'll get sparked in a couple of rounds. Ruiz was a genuine world champion who fought and beat the likes of Evander Holyfield hardly a roadsweeper was he? In fact Fury has never fought a Mexican let alone a road sweeper.The heavyweight ratings are not full of Mexicans and never have been as they tend to dominate the smaller weight classes. In your desperation to try and get one on me you have had to dig into the 70s archives to find a Mexican who fought Joe Frazier rather pathetic really but no surprise.So where are all these Mexican gatekeepers who Fury can win a world title from? The fight is off now Fury pulled out as his trainer is seriously ill and was taken to hospital. Get a grip man. We were just discussing Fury, I think he's a joke and a sad reflection of how poor the heavyweight scene is at the moment, you see something in him, that's fine, it's good to disagree and debate, but then you shot off at a tangent and started saying that Mexicans don't fight at heavyweight. You introduced that topic, not me. I'm sure there are plenty of Mexicans who weigh the wrong side of 200lb, are in at least the same physical condition as Mr Blobby and would be happy to pull some gloves on for a reasonable little bag of cash. Just one more little point, why are we talking about the John Ruiz, the man who fought Evander? He's actually an American out of Porto Rico. The Mexican fighter is Andy Ruiz Jr. |
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Post by zfc on Jul 26, 2014 16:26:00 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up is Ruiz jnr a roadsweeper and has he fought for the world heavyweight title?
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Post by tbonegas on Jul 26, 2014 16:41:12 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up is Ruiz jnr a roadsweeper and has he fought for the world heavyweight title? He is a Boxer, and you know that.And apparently according to the experts (of which you are not one) he is the current WBO Intercontinental Heavyweight Champion.So he has fought for a heavyweight championship, so what is your point? You were wrong about Herol Graham and you are wrong about this,just stop it now.You are making yourself look silly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 17:48:37 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up is Ruiz jnr a roadsweeper and has he fought for the world heavyweight title? No, he's not a roadsweeper, he is is a Mexican heavyweight. Fighting out of America, but still Mexican. You seem to be holding an argument with yourself here? Now where's the ROFLMAOYSST (Rolling On Floor Laughing My Ass Off Yet Somehow Still Typing) smilie when you need it? |
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Post by tbonegas on Jul 26, 2014 19:09:20 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up is Ruiz jnr a roadsweeper and has he fought for the world heavyweight title? No, he's not a roadsweeper, he is is a Mexican heavyweight. Fighting out of America, but still Mexican. You seem to be holding an argument with yourself here? Now where's the ROFLMAOYSST (Rolling On Floor Laughing My Ass Off Yet Somehow Still Typing) smilie when you need it? Hi Bamber.I don't know if you ever posted on the old official forum,before it was closed down.If not, let me fill you in on the virtues of the Know All.He knows everything about most sports, much more than anybody I have ever known.He will however never admit to being wrong,but will more often than not resort to childish name calling,and occasional toy throwing. |
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Post by zfc on Jul 26, 2014 19:14:09 GMT
So we have established that Mexican heavyweights are not roadsweepers and no Mexican heavyweight has fought for a world title although after scouring the internet a challenger was found 50 years ago.In desperation some idiot now classes the WBO intercontinental as a world title.
Where is the desperate to try and prove zfc wrong smilie?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 19:31:48 GMT
So we have established that Mexican heavyweights are not roadsweepers and no Mexican heavyweight has fought for a world title although after scouring the internet a challenger was found 50 years ago.In desperation some idiot now classes the WBO intercontinental as a world title. Where is the desperate to try and prove zfc wrong smilie? But you are wrong! You even make a statement above and then contradict it in the very same sentence. Have you been on the pop old chap? There's nothing stopping a Mexican from fighting for a world heavyweight title, and in the past they have. You've got that wrong, then you didn't even read your Google results properly before using the information you found to start an argument with yourself. No need for a ''Try to prove ZFC wrong'' smiley, you are doing the job for yourself. To be honest, I don't think you even know what the term 'Mexican road sweeper' actually means. Have a little Google. |
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Post by tbonegas on Jul 26, 2014 19:31:51 GMT
So we have established that Mexican heavyweights are not roadsweepers and no Mexican heavyweight has fought for a world title although after scouring the internet a challenger was found 50 years ago.In desperation some idiot now classes the WBO intercontinental as a world title. Where is the desperate to try and prove zfc wrong smilie? Who are you calling an idiot? |
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Post by zfc on Jul 26, 2014 19:51:27 GMT
So we have established that Mexican heavyweights are not roadsweepers and no Mexican heavyweight has fought for a world title although after scouring the internet a challenger was found 50 years ago.In desperation some idiot now classes the WBO intercontinental as a world title. Where is the desperate to try and prove zfc wrong smilie? But you are wrong! You even make a statement above and then contradict it in the very same sentence. Have you been on the pop old chap? There's nothing stopping a Mexican from fighting for a world heavyweight title, and in the past they have. You've got that wrong, then you didn't even read your Google results properly before using the information you found to start an argument with yourself. No need for a ''Try to prove ZFC wrong'' smiley, you are doing the job for yourself. To be honest, I don't think you even know what the term 'Mexican road sweeper' actually means. Have a little Google. I know perfectly well what it means it was a term used by Nigel Benn to describe the low level of opposition. The point lost on you is that Mexican heavyweights are not gatekeepers in the heavyweight division so Fury wont be fighting one. |
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Post by tbonegas on Jul 26, 2014 20:38:20 GMT
But you are wrong! You even make a statement above and then contradict it in the very same sentence. Have you been on the pop old chap? There's nothing stopping a Mexican from fighting for a world heavyweight title, and in the past they have. You've got that wrong, then you didn't even read your Google results properly before using the information you found to start an argument with yourself. No need for a ''Try to prove ZFC wrong'' smiley, you are doing the job for yourself. To be honest, I don't think you even know what the term 'Mexican road sweeper' actually means. Have a little Google. I know perfectly well what it means it was a term used by Nigel Benn to describe the low level of opposition. The point lost on you is that Mexican heavyweights are not gatekeepers in the heavyweight division so Fury wont be fighting one. So who are you calling an idiot? Simple question. Now answer it. |
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Post by supersteve73 on Jul 27, 2014 10:07:31 GMT
Away from the terrible British heavyweights, another great performance from Golovkin last night. This guy is a star and needs the mega fights.
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Post by zfc on Jul 27, 2014 18:25:36 GMT
Away from the terrible British heavyweights, another great performance from Golovkin last night. This guy is a star and needs the mega fights. He is one of the stars of boxing today,he used George Groves for sparring in the build up to last nights fight.George floored Golovkin a couple of times but left camp with a broken rib. George is fighting again in Sept. |
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Post by YateTown on Jul 28, 2014 12:13:17 GMT
What was the Eubank Jnr fight like? Rumours of him vs Billy Joe Saunders next
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Post by Isaac Hunt on Jul 30, 2014 20:37:21 GMT
Carl Froch v Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, January 24th, Las Vegas. Heard it here first.
Oh and there was another more personal reason for Fury's pull out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 20:55:18 GMT
Oh and there was another more personal reason for Fury's pull out. Fell into an industrial sized vat of lard and had to eat his way out? |
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Post by Isaac Hunt on Jul 30, 2014 22:57:25 GMT
Oh and there was another more personal reason for Fury's pull out. Fell into an industrial sized vat of lard and had to eat his way out? No, I hear his wife lost their unborn child. |
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Post by YateTown on Jul 31, 2014 11:46:45 GMT
Then why say it was his uncle? Or did his uncle have a reaction to the news which put him in hospital?
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Post by Isaac Hunt on Jul 31, 2014 20:00:08 GMT
Then why say it was his uncle? Or did his uncle have a reaction to the news which put him in hospital? His uncle is in hospital and is ill but I'm guessing he doesn't want his wife going through that as well as everything else? |
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 9, 2022 11:31:46 GMT
Tyson Fury: WBC champion urges Derek Chisora to accept trilogy offer.
Tyson Fury has urged Derek Chisora to accept his offer to fight him in a trilogy bout.
The WBC heavyweight champion, 33, said he was retiring after his last win over Dillian Whyte in April.
But speaking on Instagram, Fury revealed he had made an offer to veteran heavyweight Chisora, whom he has beaten twice.
"You're running, Derek, from the trilogy," Fury said. "You call yourself war, you should call yourself chicken."
Chisora, 38, defeated Kubrat Pulev on points in July and has resisted calls for him to retire.
The victory over Pulev ended a three-fight losing streak and Chisora said after that win he would like to fight Deontay Wilder or Fury.
"Get the contract signed," Fury added, confirming reports he was seriously considering fighting again. Fury beat Chisora on points in 2011 before defeating him in their rematch three years later.
Chisora's promoter Eddie Hearn confirmed last week Chisora had received an offer from Fury's camp, but had turned it down as it "wasn't enough money".
It seems the possibility of Fury fighting again grows with each passing day.
The former unified champion's retirement announcement raised eyebrows, with few fans and pundits believing the undefeated Gypsy King was indeed finished with fighting.
Since then there has been a host of suggestions about what Fury could do next. Another stint in the WWE, an exhibition match against UFC heavyweight champion Francis Ngannou and of course, a fight against the winner of Anthony Joshua's rematch against Oleksandr Usyk, have all been mentioned.
Promoter Frank Warren this week told Talksport Fury has "itchy feet" and believes his fighter wants to challenge the winner of Usyk v Joshua in an undisputed heavyweight undisputed clash.
It seems Fury will fight again and the next few weeks are likely to determine whether that will be in the professional heavyweight ranks or not.
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 21, 2022 15:56:35 GMT
Tyson Fury reveals cousin stabbed to death and calls for knife crackdown.
Boxer Tyson Fury has called on the government to introduce stronger punishments for knife crime after his cousin was killed in a stabbing.
The heavyweight champion said on social media "RIP Rico Burton", who was "stabbed in the neck" overnight.
Fury compared knife crime to a "pandemic", adding, "you don't know how bad it is until it's one of your own".
The Ministry of Justice said it could not comment while a police investigation was ongoing.
In an emotional Instagram post, Fury wrote: "My cousin was murdered last night, stabbed in the neck."
"This is becoming ridiculous - idiots carry knives. This needs to stop."
The Morecambe-based boxer demands the government "bring back higher sentencing for knife crime".
He ended the post in tribute to his cousin: "Life is very precious and it can be taken away very quick. Enjoy every moment.
"RIP Rico Burton - may the lord God grant you a good place in heaven, see you soon."
Fury had earlier taken to the platform to talk about his disappointment with the quality of the heavyweight title fight between Anthony Joshua and Oleksandr Usyk - which the Ukrainian won on a split decision.
Knife crimes rose by 10% to 49,027 offences in England and Wales during the year to March 2022, according to records.
Public concern about stabbings and firmer guidance for judges since 2015 have led to longer sentences, although offenders under 18 are still more likely to be cautioned than jailed.
The maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife or weapon illegally can be either four years in jail, an unlimited fine or both.
Those who are convicted of carrying a knife or weapon illegally more than once face an automatic prison sentence, which is a minimum of six months.
Teenagers aged 16 or 17 face a minimum four-month detention and training order.
The proportion of offenders who received immediate custodial sentences for knife and offensive weapon crimes was 29% in 2021, according to government data.
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Fury is just a big lump with an even bigger mouth, the moment he gets into the ring with anyone of any quality he'll get sparked in a couple of rounds.
