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Post by Westcountry Gas on Nov 26, 2016 19:51:28 GMT
Glad this month is over, i'm sure there will be some improvements in December, Barrow is the perfect game to restore some confidence. You can't become a poor team in just a few weeks, form is temporary class is permanent, looking at our stats it was nothing like defeats under previous managers.
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Post by thesecondofmay on Nov 26, 2016 20:34:35 GMT
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Post by PessimistGas on Nov 26, 2016 20:38:24 GMT
The confidence from last seasons promotion run has carried through into this but defensively we have diabolical all season. You cannot give away as many soft goals as we do and keep coming from behind to rescue wins and draws, it isn't sustainable.
The only thing more ridiculous that those who are apparently questioning DC after two successive promotions is those talking about another promotion in October.
I think we'll be ok but we lack a little bit of quality and some of the conference squad are getting found out now. Confidence can only take you so far.
Defensively, however, it just isn't good enough and DC needs to sort it pronto or we will be in trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 20:48:18 GMT
Listening to that from Marcus, I'm now beginning to get worried.
Assuming that's broadly what's being said in conversations between him and the manager, they seem to think they are just being a bit unlucky.
You could maybe write a handful of goals off as bad luck, but this has been going on all season, there's only 1 team in the division who have let in more goals. We just aren't organised or strong enough in defence, it isn't going to fix itself, and the result today is nothing to do with whether we should have had a penalty today or not, we shouldn't be letting in 3 against a team who before today were struggling to average 1 goal per game.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 21:54:41 GMT
This will hurt but if you were a neutral looking at stats for Rovers games home and away shots possession corners etc it would suggest Rovers are deliberately trying not to score and deliberately trying to concede it looks that bad this pattern has been getting too regular to be down to just coincidence.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 22:41:35 GMT
This will hurt but if you were a neutral looking at stats for Rovers games home and away shots possession corners etc it would suggest Rovers are deliberately trying not to score and deliberately trying to concede it looks that bad this pattern has been getting too regular to be down to just coincidence. Yeah right, 9-11 was an inside job, Elvis works in a chip shop near Cheddar, Illig's phantom time hypothesis proves that the year is actually 1716 and the earth is flat. |
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Post by kellyoreed on Nov 26, 2016 22:50:15 GMT
All teams generally have a drop in form over the course of a season, personally I'm happier with it being now rather than in April. We have plenty of time to recover at the moment. If we're still seeing results like this in a couple of months I'll worry, but be honest, who wouldn't have been satisfied with mid-table at the start of the season? I think we have issues, obviously, but no need to panic just yet. DC will sort us out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 1:32:10 GMT
Defence is ovbiously the big issue here.
But it is not the whole story.
Some collapses have resulted from chasing and attacking deficits.
When this was coming off for us, we won points from it.
Now we seem to change things, get into the game, but miss chances.
Were we to take chances and get ahead, we wouldn't be chasing.
Then we would not have conceded so many.
Do not get me wrong; sure we must need defensive drilling in training.
But when we are chasing a deficit, we need to take chances too.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 27, 2016 10:27:36 GMT
Despite the large number of changes each game - the back 5 are predictable names on the team sheet. But as everyone is pointing out - the defence is the main problem. With Clark-Salter out we have no options (sorry Macca). January window might give us an opportunity.
With regard to strikers - think they are both low on confidence and just need a goals. No need to panic. I would have taken mid-table at the start of the season and if we end up there - fine by me... UTG!
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Post by Igitur on Nov 27, 2016 10:46:31 GMT
The goals were not all caused by defenders, Chesterfield's first goal was down to Gaffney playing more like Daphne, the second was poor covering by the defence and the third goal was a good strike from a free kick. But yes we do need a settled back 4, Hartley was a beast and played well and, like others, I think he should be made captain as Lockyer's form has dipped.
I really do not like the phrase oft used by managers "some positives" but we had long spells of not only good possession but good play, however the ball was often played right down the throats of the two big centre halves. The foul on Sincs was 100% a pen, the ref got progressively worse at a time when we needed decisions.
We are what we are, a L2 side just scraping promotion with a handful of extras added.
(What I did not like to see was one of our Burberry scarf brigade and a gashead getting into a scrap.)
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