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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 9, 2014 7:40:00 GMT
As a "building professional" I thought you might appreciate that we already have planning permission for the UWE!!
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Smithy Gas
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Post by Smithy Gas on Jul 9, 2014 8:34:09 GMT
As a "building professional" I thought you might appreciate that we already have planning permission for the UWE!! Indeed. But pre commencement conditions must be submitted and signed off by the LPA before works can start. Although, unlike Matty, I am positive, through experience, the conditions are targeted to be signed off in half the time of the overall application. So a major sites application which takes 12 weeks to get planning, should have conditions signed off in 4-6.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 10:00:05 GMT
To give a little context, the Council by statute Councils are allowed 12 weeks to make a descion on any planning submission from the point of submission. Small developments are often approved under delegated powers in a shorter time, something of this size will undoubtedly w need full Council approval an I would expect it to take the full 12 weeks. I also would'nt get to hung up on the 2013 dates, also it is unlikely that the planning portal was the tardy element here if indeed there was a delay, As a building professional my view is, this development is a bit off the ground being broke yet. Marty.. What makes you think they will on start the review now the documents have been published. My information is they work with the builder (Buckingham) in helping to produce these documents and a continuous review is undertaken during this process so maybe the 4-6 weeks is viable in this case ??
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 9, 2014 13:21:15 GMT
As a "building professional" I thought you might appreciate that we already have planning permission for the UWE!! He has been told. Just chose not to listen. He won't be getting any building work from me!
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Post by GasMacc1 on Jul 10, 2014 18:08:26 GMT
Miss Leslie MP,got involved because she needs the stadium to be built, so she can get the rail links she is trying to get,the stadium is a means to this happening and i am grateful she did,none of them care about us, but they care about the stadium and the knock on projects,for which funds will be released when it is built Why is the stadium an enabling project for the rail links? I remember CL saying this several months ago, but I can't recall why the transport developments depend on the stadium. Grateful if anyone can put me right on this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 18:26:09 GMT
Miss Leslie MP,got involved because she needs the stadium to be built, so she can get the rail links she is trying to get,the stadium is a means to this happening and i am grateful she did,none of them care about us, but they care about the stadium and the knock on projects,for which funds will be released when it is built Why is the stadium an enabling project for the rail links? I remember CL saying this several months ago, but I can't recall why the transport developments depend on the stadium. Grateful if anyone can put me right on this. To be honest i am not sure why,but she did say it was. Henbury gas will probably know,he's more up with issues
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Post by GasMacc1 on Jul 10, 2014 19:40:54 GMT
Why is the stadium an enabling project for the rail links? I remember CL saying this several months ago, but I can't recall why the transport developments depend on the stadium. Grateful if anyone can put me right on this. To be honest i am not sure why,but she did say it was. Henbury gas will probably know,he's more up with issues It seemed to me that if other parties are relying on a successful UWE stadium project, in addition to Rovers, UWE, South Glos and (I hope) Sainsbury's, it might have a better chance of becoming a reality. A quick internet trawl suggests that the stadium would be just one of many factors positively influencing a business case for the Henbury Loop, rather than the less ambitious "Henbury Spur". However, it is not exactly a direct enabler, if my reading is correct. On the Charlotte Leslie website, she writes: "the domino effect of the Rovers Stadium is enormous. Not least, it is a momentous boost to the business case for the ‘Henbury Loop Line’ and the quest for re-opened stations at Horfield/Lockleaze". A feasibility study (July 2013) into the Henbury Loop by South West Transport Development CIC doesn't mention the stadium at all, but does make clear the need to relieve various traffic bottlenecks in the locality, including North Filton. On Wikipedia - [Opening of a Henbury Loop] is unlikely before 2018,and depends in part upon the four-tracking of Filton Bank to allow more trains to operate the line from Bristol Temple Meads to Filton Abbey Wood. "The four-tracking of Filton Bank is the basic infrastructure which makes other things possible," said Ms Leslie. "But what I'd like to see is more ambition in getting Henbury station and Henbury Loop and our network of rail around the city open faster because Bristol is growing and our transport infrastructure isn't keeping up."
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 10, 2014 21:53:59 GMT
It seemed to me that if other parties are relying on a successful UWE stadium project, in addition to Rovers, UWE, South Glos and (I hope) Sainsbury's, it might have a better chance of becoming a reality. A quick internet trawl suggests that the stadium would be just one of many factors positively influencing a business case for the Henbury Loop, rather than the less ambitious "Henbury Spur". However, it is not exactly a direct enabler, if my reading is correct. On the Charlotte Leslie website, she writes: "the domino effect of the Rovers Stadium is enormous. Not least, it is a momentous boost to the business case for the ‘Henbury Loop Line’ and the quest for re-opened stations at Horfield/Lockleaze". A feasibility study (July 2013) into the Henbury Loop by South West Transport Development CIC doesn't mention the stadium at all, but does make clear the need to relieve various traffic bottlenecks in the locality, including North Filton. On Wikipedia - [Opening of a Henbury Loop] is unlikely before 2018,and depends in part upon the four-tracking of Filton Bank to allow more trains to operate the line from Bristol Temple Meads to Filton Abbey Wood. "The four-tracking of Filton Bank is the basic infrastructure which makes other things possible," said Ms Leslie. "But what I'd like to see is more ambition in getting Henbury station and Henbury Loop and our network of rail around the city open faster because Bristol is growing and our transport infrastructure isn't keeping up." My reading of this was that the completion of the stadium would provide more incentive (economic and practical) to complete the Henbury loop line and with it, further benefits arising. Aligned with this is the quoted £200million investment arising from the development(s) as a whole. I've not sat down and done the sums, but the declared combined figures from supermarket, stadium and associated developments doesn't quite add up to £200m as far as I can see, but there is the "virtuous economic circle" effect in play here. I don't doubt that specific investment followed by infrastructure improvement can lead to significant economic growth in North Bristol and South Glos. Let's just hope it all comes off!
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