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Post by frenchgashead on Jul 8, 2014 13:32:32 GMT
This seems to me just sensible action IF Sainsbury's go ahead. The MPs intervention still makes me think there is something wrong - they wouldn't waste their time if everything was sunshine and light.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 8, 2014 13:40:54 GMT
No of course your prob right Curly... they've never pretending all is fine when knowing it has all gone wrong before..... oh ... Whaddon Rd anyone ... dont get me wrong i believe UWE will happen i justw wouldnt put anything past this lot I know trust is pretty low between the board and many of us on here, but is it not just feasible that Nick is trying his best to carry on with all aspects that we can reasonably get on with before Sainsbury's finally agree OR pull out from the handover of money. That is what it looks like to me.
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Post by lockleazer on Jul 8, 2014 13:43:19 GMT
No of course your prob right Curly... they've never pretending all is fine when knowing it has all gone wrong before..... oh ... Whaddon Rd anyone ... dont get me wrong i believe UWE will happen i justw wouldnt put anything past this lot I know trust is pretty low between the board and many of us on here, but is it not just feasible that Nick is trying his best to carry on with all aspects that we can reasonably get on with before Sainsbury's finally agree OR pull out from the handover of money. That is what it looks like to me. As i said i hope so... and believe thats most likely... but i dont think anyone would be at all surprised if there were more smoke and mirrors involved!
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 8, 2014 13:56:40 GMT
As i said i hope so... and believe thats most likely... but i dont think anyone would be at all surprised if there were more smoke and mirrors involved! I agree that there are a number of aspects where we seem to be fed half truths at the moment, but to think that the board would go to the trouble of submitting all of the documents listed on the South Glos Planning portal as part of some elaborate diversion tactic is a greater conspiracy theory than the grassy knoll or the wind blowing the flag on the moon...........then again!!!! ?
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 8, 2014 14:00:33 GMT
The UWE would need to be started pretty damn quickly if Totend's theory of Sainsbury's starting building at The Mem sooner rather than later is correct.
Who would want to be travelling to Twerton longer than absolutely necessary? Ten years was bad enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 14:11:11 GMT
Now I'm not absolving the board of it’s many, MANY faults but really, one of the first things that came out after relegation was “yes the stadium is still happening, it’s vital for the future.” It’s a pretty clear clarification guys. The MPs/Dave getting involved is politicians being politicians, they want to big up the supposed economic recovery and Charlotte whatserface wants to bagsee her share so we all continue to vote her in. Really think about the campaign against TRASH, she didn’t start it, the energy and petition was already there, she just hosted it on her website and collected all our email addresses for her mailing list. Not trying to criticize her personally but that’s what they do, do you think she gives a crap about Rovers, really? Standing there in her brand new, too big shirt, smiling for the cameras…
Again, NH has so, so many faults but imagine if he spent all his time responding to paranoid s**t on here. “The chairman wishes to release a statement clarifying that although he was indeed driving around Bath the other day, his glum expression and roof-down driving should not be taken as indication of the cancellation of the UWE stadium. Also his McFlurry was a chrunchie one.”
INB4: “Rose-tinter/Sheed.”
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 8, 2014 14:17:06 GMT
The UWE would need to be started pretty damn quickly if Totend's theory of Sainsbury's starting building at The Mem sooner rather than later is correct. Who would want to be travelling to Twerton longer than absolutely necessary? Ten years was bad enough. If the club could afford it, I'd have no qualms travelling to Twerton (especially) or Forest Green for home fixtures for a couple more years if that was what was needed to push forward the UWE build. It is just a theory though....isn't it?
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Post by Big Dave on Jul 8, 2014 14:18:51 GMT
Does anyone seriously believe that the club/board would proceed with these pre-commencement conditions as a smokescreen? Get real. I don't know the figures, but in all likelihood, these activities are initially being funded by the club/holding company. The big cost does not come in until building contractors are mobilised and materials placed on order - that's when when we need the cash from Sainsbury's. Fingers crossed - new Sainsbury's CEO takes up his post tomorrow. That was nearly 12 months ago when the documents were dated from... ...you're right, the big cost comes putting plant on site, which should have happened 8 weeks ago and now we have no idea when it will happen... In my opinion, the 'decision' about the cash from Sainsbury's is already made, and depends on how good the contracts we signed were...the delay comes as we were i) fearing relegation and then ii) got relegated... ...all we're missing is public clarification of these issues...
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 8, 2014 14:28:15 GMT
The UWE would need to be started pretty damn quickly if Totend's theory of Sainsbury's starting building at The Mem sooner rather than later is correct. Who would want to be travelling to Twerton longer than absolutely necessary? Ten years was bad enough. If the club could afford it, I'd have no qualms travelling to Twerton (especially) or Forest Green for home fixtures for a couple more years if that was what was needed to push forward the UWE build. It is just a theory though....isn't it? Yes, put forward by Totend yesterday.
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Post by LJG on Jul 8, 2014 14:32:47 GMT
Does anyone seriously believe that the club/board would proceed with these pre-commencement conditions as a smokescreen? Get real. I don't know the figures, but in all likelihood, these activities are initially being funded by the club/holding company. The big cost does not come in until building contractors are mobilised and materials placed on order - that's when when we need the cash from Sainsbury's. Fingers crossed - new Sainsbury's CEO takes up his post tomorrow. That was nearly 12 months ago when the documents were dated from... ...you're right, the big cost comes putting plant on site, which should have happened 8 weeks ago and now we have no idea when it will happen... In my opinion, the 'decision' about the cash from Sainsbury's is already made, and depends on how good the contracts we signed were...the delay comes as we were i) fearing relegation and then ii) got relegated... ...all we're missing is public clarification of these issues... Not sure I follow you. Do you think UWE is dead?
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 8, 2014 14:50:54 GMT
If the club could afford it, I'd have no qualms travelling to Twerton (especially) or Forest Green for home fixtures for a couple more years if that was what was needed to push forward the UWE build. It is just a theory though....isn't it? Yes, put forward by Totend yesterday. Sorry, I forgot to put on the irony emoticon!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 14:51:23 GMT
The UWE would need to be started pretty damn quickly if Totend's theory of Sainsbury's starting building at The Mem sooner rather than later is correct. Who would want to be travelling to Twerton longer than absolutely necessary? Ten years was bad enough. I loved going to Twerton after a while,and the football and fans were great,but coming home to Bristol was everything,shame it was to the Mem,but needs must when the devil drives. And your not banned from Twerton,if they don't own it can they ban you
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Post by phillistine on Jul 8, 2014 14:57:08 GMT
Now I'm not absolving the board of it’s many, MANY faults but really, one of the first things that came out after relegation was “yes the stadium is still happening, it’s vital for the future.” It’s a pretty clear clarification guys. The MPs/Dave getting involved is politicians being politicians, they want to big up the supposed economic recovery and Charlotte whatserface wants to bagsee her share so we all continue to vote her in. Really think about the campaign against TRASH, she didn’t start it, the energy and petition was already there, she just hosted it on her website and collected all our email addresses for her mailing list. Not trying to criticize her personally but that’s what they do, do you think she gives a crap about Rovers, really? Standing there in her brand new, too big shirt, smiling for the cameras… Again, NH has so, so many faults but imagine if he spent all his time responding to paranoid s*** on here. “The chairman wishes to release a statement clarifying that although he was indeed driving around Bath the other day, his glum expression and roof-down driving should not be taken as indication of the cancellation of the UWE stadium. Also his McFlurry was a chrunchie one.” INB4: “Rose-tinter/Sheed.” I am not quite sure what Charlotte Leslie has done to deserve some kind of attack by a Rovers fan. It is true that Politicians do try and make political gain from attaching themselves to certain causes but the reality is that the people who desperately want this to happen are in the minority compared to the majority of her constituents who probably coudnt give a damn either way. She also risked hacking off fans of the dark side by being seen in public to back the Rovers and overall I don't think she gained much cred apart from a few - obviously not all -Gasheads. Her input certainly helped the cause and the fact that she raised it with the prime minister on 2 seperate occasions didnt do us any harm at all. I realise that many people on this forum have a downer on everyone in authority who is associated with Rovers but come on guys lets not start slagging people off who simply dont deserve it.
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 8, 2014 14:59:25 GMT
The UWE would need to be started pretty damn quickly if Totend's theory of Sainsbury's starting building at The Mem sooner rather than later is correct. Who would want to be travelling to Twerton longer than absolutely necessary? Ten years was bad enough. I loved going to Twerton after a while,and the football and fans were great,but coming home to Bristol was everything,shame it was to the Mem,but needs must when the devil drives. And your not banned from Twerton,if they don't own it can they ban you The Memorial Stadium and any ground where Rovers play there home matches in the future was the wording going from memory.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 15:04:21 GMT
"Not trying to criticize her personally" - Me
I didn't post to slag her off. I'm sure she's an outstandingly lovely careerist automaton (dohohohoho). Just offering an decent explanation as to why the MPs have decided to get involved at this point. She really didn't need to, the power in the situation resided in us, the fans, getting organized and campaigning against TRASH. Do we believe that her raising us in PMQs actually had an effect on the verdict? Shouldn't do. That's not how the courts work.
Obviously people have taken this open letter to mean there must be fire underneath all the smoke but it's just free publicity for the good, hard-workin' folks in Westminster.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 15:05:34 GMT
Cue us playing in the Hand Stadium three years from now.
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Post by Big Dave on Jul 8, 2014 15:08:11 GMT
That was nearly 12 months ago when the documents were dated from... ...you're right, the big cost comes putting plant on site, which should have happened 8 weeks ago and now we have no idea when it will happen... In my opinion, the 'decision' about the cash from Sainsbury's is already made, and depends on how good the contracts we signed were...the delay comes as we were i) fearing relegation and then ii) got relegated... ...all we're missing is public clarification of these issues... Not sure I follow you. Do you think UWE is dead? Not at all...I think the set-up costs have already been met, but I worry the initial capital costs are being delayed...I think the UWE is viable, I think it is buildable, but I hate the silence coming from the BoD/club about it...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 15:14:04 GMT
Now I'm not absolving the board of it’s many, MANY faults but really, one of the first things that came out after relegation was “yes the stadium is still happening, it’s vital for the future.” It’s a pretty clear clarification guys. The MPs/Dave getting involved is politicians being politicians, they want to big up the supposed economic recovery and Charlotte whatserface wants to bagsee her share so we all continue to vote her in. Really think about the campaign against TRASH, she didn’t start it, the energy and petition was already there, she just hosted it on her website and collected all our email addresses for her mailing list. Not trying to criticize her personally but that’s what they do, do you think she gives a crap about Rovers, really? Standing there in her brand new, too big shirt, smiling for the cameras… Again, NH has so, so many faults but imagine if he spent all his time responding to paranoid s*** on here. “The chairman wishes to release a statement clarifying that although he was indeed driving around Bath the other day, his glum expression and roof-down driving should not be taken as indication of the cancellation of the UWE stadium. Also his McFlurry was a chrunchie one.” INB4: “Rose-tinter/Sheed.” I am not quite sure what Charlotte Leslie has done to deserve some kind of attack by a Rovers fan. It is true that Politicians do try and make political gain from attaching themselves to certain causes but the reality is that the people who desperately want this to happen are in the minority compared to the majority of her constituents who probably coudnt give a damn either way. She also risked hacking off fans of the dark side by being seen in public to back the Rovers and overall I don't think she gained much cred apart from a few - obviously not all -Gasheads. Her input certainly helped the cause and the fact that she raised it with the prime minister on 2 seperate occasions didnt do us any harm at all. I realise that many people on this forum have a downer on everyone in authority who is associated with Rovers but come on guys lets not start slagging people off who simply dont deserve it. Quality Post & 100% correct about Charlotte. I have had the pleasure of talking to her many times in Westbury on trym about all things BRFC and believe it or not she is very much on our side for personal reasons as well not just political
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 15:17:21 GMT
I am not quite sure what Charlotte Leslie has done to deserve some kind of attack by a Rovers fan. It is true that Politicians do try and make political gain from attaching themselves to certain causes but the reality is that the people who desperately want this to happen are in the minority compared to the majority of her constituents who probably coudnt give a damn either way. She also risked hacking off fans of the dark side by being seen in public to back the Rovers and overall I don't think she gained much cred apart from a few - obviously not all -Gasheads. Her input certainly helped the cause and the fact that she raised it with the prime minister on 2 seperate occasions didnt do us any harm at all. I realise that many people on this forum have a downer on everyone in authority who is associated with Rovers but come on guys lets not start slagging people off who simply dont deserve it. Quality Post & 100% correct about Charlotte. I have had the pleasure of talking to her many times in Westbury on trym about all things BRFC and believe it or not she is very much on our side for personal reasons as well not just political Such as?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 8, 2014 15:27:39 GMT
"Not trying to criticize her personally" - Me I didn't post to slag her off. I'm sure she's an outstandingly lovely careerist automaton (dohohohoho). Just offering an decent explanation as to why the MPs have decided to get involved at this point. She really didn't need to, the power in the situation resided in us, the fans, getting organized and campaigning against TRASH. Do we believe that her raising us in PMQs actually had an effect on the verdict? Shouldn't do. That's not how the courts work. Obviously people have taken this open letter to mean there must be fire underneath all the smoke but it's just free publicity for the good, hard-workin' folks in Westminster. Then again NH could have been concerned the JR was going to go in Trash's favour and so thought he need the assistance of CL, it could be he also turned to when he became concerned Sainsbury's were delaying committing to buying the Mem?
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