Gashead
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Post by Gashead on Jul 2, 2014 20:07:16 GMT
looking forward to all your reactions to some good news tomorrow :goal: Shhhh don't let them know we've purchased the Hand Stadium for a million pounds I quite like Clevedon, nice little ground... In fairness to Henbury, the angry mob will be after him if nothing happens tomorrow. At least its not a vague 'changes/news will come soon' like we've had from others.
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Post by buckrippers on Jul 2, 2014 20:11:32 GMT
The only 'good news' from this is we will be put out our agony in a few days time. The high profile risk of getting the PM and other Tory heavyweights along with Dawn p and other Labour powerhouses will mean a YES or NO from Sainsburys quite soon. We can either rejoice or cry but finally we will know.. That's my fear, that Sainsbury's are a big enough company that they aren't going to be bullied and cajoled. They will do what they think is right for Sainsbury's, not a higgledy piggledy bunch of politicians. This pressure might have an opposite effect. Hope I'm wrong, though
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Post by basel on Jul 2, 2014 20:34:27 GMT
looking forward to all your reactions to some good news tomorrow :goal: Does this mean you've heard "good news" is on its way within a day or two Henbury?
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 2, 2014 20:35:00 GMT
OK, so I am really worried following the mp intervention and pmqs today. I can't for the life of me understand why it has been done - unless in desperation.
BUT one thing revealed during the ITV report was Sainsbury's indication that they couldn't comment as there was a confidentiality agreement in place. This explains why the club cannot reveal the detail to us at present, frustrating though it is for us.
Breach of a non disclosure agreement could render any agreement null and void or worse.
Much as I hate not knowing, we will have to just suck it up and wait.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 2, 2014 21:12:17 GMT
So is the official Sainsbury's response "we can't comment"? if so why not, surely that means there is a major issue somewhere or they wouldn't need to hide behind a confidentiality clause.
I'm sensing the present plans are dead in the water
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jozer
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Post by jozer on Jul 2, 2014 21:17:59 GMT
So is the official Sainsbury's response "we can't comment"? if so why not, surely that means there is a major issue somewhere or they wouldn't need to hide behind a confidentiality clause. I'm sensing the present plans are dead in the water Yes they would. If there is such a clause (which makes you wonder why Higgs hasn't just said so before now) then it probably gags both parties for it's duration from talking at all, not just when they don't want to.
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Post by aghast on Jul 2, 2014 21:35:13 GMT
Why can't Sainsbury's comment? No remaining legal challenges from the government, protest groups, individuals or anyone else. If the only issues to be thrashed out are between the club and the supermarket and a sudden unexplained media silence emerges then there is, if not a major issue, then a problem. And a total news blackout normally suggests a major problem. The good ship HMS UWE Stadium. Still afloat and visible on the horizon, but some of us feel it may not be viable for much longer.
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jozer
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Post by jozer on Jul 2, 2014 21:45:24 GMT
Shhhh don't let them know we've purchased the Hand Stadium for a million pounds I quite like Clevedon, nice little ground... In fairness to Henbury, the angry mob will be after him if nothing happens tomorrow. At least its not a vague 'changes/news will come soon' like we've had from others. Would be more than adequate for Rovers long-term re- Non-league and crowd size once Higgs & Co have finished reducing Rovers to their level.
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Post by onedaytheuwe on Jul 2, 2014 22:13:11 GMT
In fairness what is there to comment on Sainsburys it appears wanted 'out'. Bod nearly fainted and made a last ditch call for help. In jumps the heavyweights who I must say have acted in unison for once supporting the community ( Fair play to the Conservative and Labour party). We must now wait for the YES or NO answer, In my view this won:t take long . Then Nick Higgs gives a statement on the outcome. The other question I am yearning to know but can be put on the back=burner for now. Did NH tell the truth when he said" All legal contracts signed off ".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 23:59:02 GMT
In fairness what is there to comment on Sainsburys it appears wanted 'out'. Bod nearly fainted and made a last ditch call for help. In jumps the heavyweights who I must say have acted in unison for once supporting the community ( Fair play to the Conservative and Labour party). We must now wait for the YES or NO answer, In my view this won:t take long . Then Nick Higgs gives a statement on the outcome. The other question I am yearning to know but can be put on the back=burner for now. Did NH tell the truth when he said" All legal contracts signed off ". And that last sentance is the real issue for me. We kept hearing it, just like the question over the financing of this project. Still over the 24 hours lets see if Henburys usual diversionary guff has any substance to it whatsoever.
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Post by Big Dave on Jul 3, 2014 0:18:02 GMT
So is the official Sainsbury's response "we can't comment"? if so why not, surely that means there is a major issue somewhere or they wouldn't need to hide behind a confidentiality clause. I'm sensing the present plans are dead in the water Yes they would. If there is such a clause (which makes you wonder why Higgs hasn't just said so before now) then it probably gags both parties for it's duration from talking at all, not just when they don't want to. Aside from the obvious jokes about the rules of Fight Club, if Rovers and Sainsbury's don't have a contract that either guarantees the purchase of the Mem or has a massive penalty clause (and I guess we're talking £10m+) if they don't want it, then unless their pockets are really, really deep the BoD won't have a football club to run without promotion at the first attempt...
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Post by swissgas on Jul 3, 2014 1:05:27 GMT
Yes they would. If there is such a clause (which makes you wonder why Higgs hasn't just said so before now) then it probably gags both parties for it's duration from talking at all, not just when they don't want to. Aside from the obvious jokes about the rules of Fight Club, if Rovers and Sainsbury's don't have a contract that either guarantees the purchase of the Mem or has a massive penalty clause (and I guess we're talking £10m+) if they don't want it, then unless their pockets are really, really deep the BoD won't have a football club to run without promotion at the first attempt...I don't think that is necessarily true Dave. When you think about it there might be a plan unfolding and it might be a plan to make Rovers sustainable at a level which the Directors can afford to finance. Ambitious clubs in the Conference rely on gates half those Rovers are likely to get and yet they do the job properly and wouldn't consider have a three man management team responsible for everything, managing, recruiting, coaching, fitness training, scouting, kit cleaning, development squad etc etc. And a club with the serious intention of getting back in the football league wouldn't only be signing Conference players who have already been around the houses and otherwise relying on trialists and loanees. I could never understand why Rovers were not doing more to promote the UWE Stadium and attract the thousands of new fans which would have been needed. No details were ever given of the new facilities fans would enjoy, nothing specific to get excited about or look forward to other than "the new ground". Surely a 40 million stadium is going to have a host of new features we never had before with themed bars, themed catering, memorabilia exhibition, sports betting areas and games suites as well as other entertainments and facilities to enhance the match day experience for fans. Nothing was ever said about these things yet surely they would have been planned in from the start and would be publicised forcefully to raise the morale of fans and create a bandwagon effect so we "hit the ground running" as they like to say. But nothing ? Is it possible that the non-viability of the UWE Stadium has been apparent for some time to those "in the know" and although people are going through the motions now the real plan is for a sustainable Conference club at the Mem ? The biggest achievement of the Board, as they tell us quite often, is to have kept the club in existence for the fans and so with a sustainable Conference level club that story could continue and many fans would still buy into it.
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Post by jozer on Jul 3, 2014 1:23:30 GMT
Funny you should suggest that Swiss. I recall posting on the old AF in 2006 something along these lines. I recall calling the post 'downsized by Dunford' and the gist of it was that GoD would never allow anyone with more ambition & money than him in to Rovers, as that would be the beggining of the end for him, and that he wasn't bothered about being in the 4th division at all as long as 5,000 mugs kept turning up. Same money coming in a far less to spend on just keeping afloat in the 4th Division, sustainable for him.
I also agree 100% with your point about the type of players being recruited. To that I would add even more so the Manager. Nothing against DC but if they were serious they would have tried to get an experienced gaffer with a history of sucess at this level, but it's clear that DC was decided on within a week of the last game, if not long before.
And while I don't really want to start on DC, what we have seen recently is him playing his part in the 'blame it all on Wardy' bull****.
Remember what someone said on this site a few days ago, about in 20 years time Rovers days in the FL would be a distant memory? Be ironic if we end up looking back fondly on the days when we questioned if the BoD really wanted to get out of the FL basement.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 2:16:33 GMT
In fairness what is there to comment on Sainsburys it appears wanted 'out'. Bod nearly fainted and made a last ditch call for help. In jumps the heavyweights who I must say have acted in unison for once supporting the community ( Fair play to the Conservative and Labour party). We must now wait for the YES or NO answer, In my view this won:t take long . Then Nick Higgs gives a statement on the outcome. The other question I am yearning to know but can be put on the back=burner for now. Did NH tell the truth when he said" All legal contracts signed off ". And that last sentance is the real issue for me. We kept hearing it, just like the question over the financing of this project. Still over the 24 hours lets see if Henburys usual diversionary guff has any substance to it whatsoever. I know nothing new about the current situation www.itv.com/news/west/update/2014-07-02/prime-minister-warns-supermarket-not-to-pull-out-of-rovers-development/
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Post by gasshole on Jul 3, 2014 5:27:21 GMT
My name is John and it's been 61 days since I lost my faith. With the help of alcohol and powerful sedatives I can escape this terrible void. The anger is diminishing as is the urge to "batter senseless with a teaspoon" those responsible. I pray for the strength to get through the next Olympic sized f###up hurtling towards us.
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Post by badbloodash on Jul 3, 2014 6:01:32 GMT
I posted on another forum several months my concerns for this development and indeed the club itself I stated then that Dennis dunford saved us and his son will kill us off we are now at the end game without this ground we are insolvent we can't keep going losing money (1million +) per season the bod are trying to get their money out the only asset they have is the mem if sainsburys pull out the compo will cover their loans then they will look at selling the mem for housing and downsize the club /ground share again hope I am wrong but I fear the worst
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 6:56:04 GMT
So, You admit you know jack, and are just posting up stuff and nonsense to satisfy some warped sense of "self"? Do you stroke your cat whilst grinning inanely at the same time? Of course though I hope I am wrong and that there will be some good news around the stadium project today, as you claimed there will be.
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Post by nerdgas on Jul 3, 2014 6:56:31 GMT
If that's the case then why imply the opposite? is it any wonder you get grief when you behave like that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 7:00:57 GMT
If that's the case then why imply the opposite? is it any wonder you get grief when you behave like that? :paranoid:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 7:05:50 GMT
So, You admit you know jack, and are just posting up stuff and nonsense to satisfy some warped sense of "self"? Do you stroke your cat whilst grinning inanely at the same time? Of course though I hope I am wrong and that there will be some good news around the stadium project today, as you claimed there will be. Oh i know things about the current situation, why would i post it on here and get abuse, at least on the other forums i post on i get some interest in what i say and not anti board everything on here. I stand by my comments weeks ago about the Hidden agenda with a group of people on this forum. I repeat i know nothing NEW about the current situation but the MP's open letter Which is what the OP was talking about) was NOT instigated by the club
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