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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 23:08:41 GMT
The order of the clubs is not mixed up at all, it's purely chronological. Take a look at Barnet's accounts, they don't turn over the sums that Rovers do, neither do they post the losses that we do. back to front though he played plenty of league one football before barnet,,,i looked at there squad and maintain there budget wasnt so far away from ours but your entitled to your opinion,,guide me to the playing budget information online if you can please? Sorry for any confusion, I put his most recent clubs (before Barnet) first on the list. Take a look at Barnet's accounts, then look at ours, all the information you need to get a good idea of how small a budget Allen won the Conference with compared to Clarke is there. And Allen wasn't given any money to bring in players in the final loan window. But it doesn't matter, the time for Allen has come and gone for now. The present management team have earned their opportunity to show us what they can do with their own squad.
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Post by beesknees on Aug 25, 2015 6:55:04 GMT
You can't compare accounts as the year Bristol Rovers were in the conference haven't been published. Best you can do is compare the years that Barnet and Rovers were in League 2. Bristol Rovers 2013/14 Turnover £4.32m Operating Loss £1.01m Total spent £5.33m Barnet FC 2012/13 Turnover £3.30m Operating Profit £0.69m Total spent £2.61m
This was the impact of first year in the conference for us Barnet FC 2013/14 Turnover £2.44m Operating Profit £0.35m Total spent £2.09m
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 7:12:56 GMT
You can't compare accounts as the year Bristol Rovers were in the conference haven't been published. Best you can do is compare the years that Barnet and Rovers were in League 2. Bristol Rovers 2013/14 Turnover £4.32m Operating Loss £1.01m Total spent £5.33m Barnet FC 2012/13 Turnover £3.30m Operating Profit £0.69m Total spent £2.61m This was the impact of first year in the conference for us Barnet FC 2013/14 Turnover £2.44m Operating Profit £0.35m Total spent £2.09m thats what i thought when i tried to find the accounts for last season
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 25, 2015 7:32:05 GMT
back to front though he played plenty of league one football before barnet,,,i looked at there squad and maintain there budget wasnt so far away from ours but your entitled to your opinion,,guide me to the playing budget information online if you can please? Sorry for any confusion, I put his most recent clubs (before Barnet) first on the list. Take a look at Barnet's accounts, then look at ours, all the information you need to get a good idea of how small a budget Allen won the Conference with compared to Clarke is there. And Allen wasn't given any money to bring in players in the final loan window. But it doesn't matter, the time for Allen has come and gone for now. The present management team have earned their opportunity to show us what they can do with their own squad. A higher budget should mean higher league position over the long term, but the effect isn't instant. Clarke had to offload a lot of players, rebuild the squad, and get them working as a team, from only those players that were available to him at that moment in time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 13:56:42 GMT
Are those people that keep saying Darrel Clarke had this `massive` budget at his disposal last season forgetting the amount already being taken up by players such as Parkes, Brown, Mildenhall, Machrystal, Harrison etc, etc? Which consequently meant he didn't have the whole of that seasons budget? That's why players such as Sinclair joined on hundreds of pounds per week instead of the ££££££ of said players? Its just another cheap shot. This season players wanting £1,500 were rightly given short shrift by Clarke. Rovers finally going in the right direction but this `Clarkes massive` budget which gets thrown around always makes me smile. Finally, do the `lodgings` for the Barnet players in London get mentioned in the accounts? I doubt it.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 25, 2015 14:02:44 GMT
Is 37 not young for a football manager then? Perhaps not for Managers on Fifa 15 granted but in the real world of football 37 is very young for a manager of a League Club. I'd like to see some stats that proves 37 is young for a football league manager. It's probably not what someone being deliberately obtuse on the internet would call proof, but if you click on this link and them click on 'Date of birth' a couple of times you can have a list of English managers from youngest on. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Football_League_managers
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 14:15:26 GMT
Youngish, then.
I'm surprised that he comes as high up that list as he does though; we must be at a low ebb for young managers nationally.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 25, 2015 14:45:39 GMT
Are those people that keep saying Darrel Clarke had this `massive` budget at his disposal last season forgetting the amount already being taken up by players such as Parkes, Brown, Mildenhall, Machrystal, Harrison etc, etc? Which consequently meant he didn't have the whole of that seasons budget? That's why players such as Sinclair joined on hundreds of pounds per week instead of the ££££££ of said players? Its just another cheap shot. This season players wanting £1,500 were rightly given short shrift by Clarke. Rovers finally going in the right direction but this `Clarkes massive` budget which gets thrown around always makes me smile. Finally, do the `lodgings` for the Barnet players in London get mentioned in the accounts? I doubt it. Talking crap again crazytrain. For a start DC offered Brown a contract. Secondly it's part of a managers job to 'move' players on if he thinks the budget could be better spent. Thirdly he's doing a great job and doesn't need this irrational defence anytime someone says something other than he is a footballing God. I personally have no doubt that we spent more on players wages than any other team in the Conference last year and it was money well spent. Of that is my opinion on which I have little facts to back it up just as anyone saying we didn't spend the most has little fact to back that up either.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 25, 2015 14:48:41 GMT
PS: I should've added if you really believe that Barnet are providing free accommodation and not correctly accounting for it you need to toddle off and present your 'evidence' to HMRC. Do be sure to let us know how you get on
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 16:32:02 GMT
just like countyground thinks rovers had the largest budget i believe eastleigh and forest green had bigger budgets than ours last season with barnet just behind,,just like countyground this is also total guesswork but hey ho
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 16:35:40 GMT
Are those people that keep saying Darrel Clarke had this `massive` budget at his disposal last season forgetting the amount already being taken up by players such as Parkes, Brown, Mildenhall, Machrystal, Harrison etc, etc? Which consequently meant he didn't have the whole of that seasons budget? That's why players such as Sinclair joined on hundreds of pounds per week instead of the ££££££ of said players? Its just another cheap shot. This season players wanting £1,500 were rightly given short shrift by Clarke. Rovers finally going in the right direction but this `Clarkes massive` budget which gets thrown around always makes me smile. Finally, do the `lodgings` for the Barnet players in London get mentioned in the accounts? I doubt it. Talking crap again crazytrain. For a start DC offered Brown a contract. Secondly it's part of a managers job to 'move' players on if he thinks the budget could be better spent. Thirdly he's doing a great job and doesn't need this irrational defence anytime someone says something other than he is a footballing God. I personally have no doubt that we spent more on players wages than any other team in the Conference last year and it was money well spent. Of that is my opinion on which I have little facts to back it up just as anyone saying we didn't spend the most has little fact to back that up either. Two peas in the same pod my County Ground friend Thank you for correcting me on Lee Brown, he showed loyalty to Rovers and did sign again, for Darrel Clarke. As for the the other stated players you have conveniently overlooked? You say part of the managers job is moving players along. Why would he move said players on when he believed they would/could and did a decent job for him?? The irrational defence you bang on about is the equivalent of the irrational `reasons` for the opposition. Not a problem. I agree it was money well spent as well, I was just pointing out that Clarke didn't spend all of this massive budget!! Most was spent already or is that bulls*** as well?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 16:42:59 GMT
just like countyground thinks rovers had the largest budget i believe eastleigh and forest green had bigger budgets than ours last season with barnet just behind,,just like countyground this is also total guesswork but hey ho The strange and laughable thing about Mr County Ground is that he wants every to prove facts about their `opinion` but never gives facts regarding his own rants. I blame the dodgey beer in the Vic I also believe Eastleigh and Forest Green had a bigger budget. James Constable was rumoured to be on £4,000 a week. But my point was that Darrel Clarke never spent the majority of the playing budget as it was already spent from previous big signings. If
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 16:48:40 GMT
PS: I should've added if you really believe that Barnet are providing free accommodation and not correctly accounting for it you need to toddle off and present your 'evidence' to HMRC. Do be sure to let us know how you get on Strange man.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Aug 25, 2015 17:01:16 GMT
John Parkin is on 4k a week at FGR.
Facto.
Now that's some serious spends!
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 25, 2015 17:37:12 GMT
just like countyground thinks rovers had the largest budget i believe eastleigh and forest green had bigger budgets than ours last season with barnet just behind,,just like countyground this is also total guesswork but hey ho The strange and laughable thing about Mr County Ground is that he wants every to prove facts about their `opinion` but never gives facts regarding his own rants. I blame the dodgey beer in the Vic I also believe Eastleigh and Forest Green had a bigger budget. James Constable was rumoured to be on £4,000 a week. But my point was that Darrel Clarke never spent the majority of the playing budget as it was already spent from previous big signings. If Why would you blame the dodgy beer in the Vic for not understanding who is in charge of the budget? And wink?
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Post by mpbrfc on Aug 25, 2015 18:57:51 GMT
John Parkin is on 4k a week at FGR. Facto. Now that's some serious spends! hear,d from a v reliable source he,s on £2800....hughes was on £3000
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 25, 2015 20:36:49 GMT
There must be some connection or we'd be in the Premiership and Man U etc struggling in Div 2, whilst there's the Fleetwood etc exceptions Barnet claimed there wage bill was only £750K last season and I doubt Allen's got a lot more to spend this season. If that's the case, I wonder what share of the pot our old friend Akinde (pen) is entitled to? Given Akinde was probably on a small wage at Alfreton then what's the betting Blisset wages were higher when he joined us from Kidderminster?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 21:51:54 GMT
If that's the case, I wonder what share of the pot our old friend Akinde (pen) is entitled to? Given Akinde was probably on a small wage at Alfreton then what's the betting Blisset wages were higher when he joined us from Kidderminster? barnet signed a proven conference goalscorer who has played championship football,,we signed a novice who had mostly played part time ,,,akinde would have been on more money in my opinion
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 21:52:50 GMT
John Parkin is on 4k a week at FGR. Facto. Now that's some serious spends! hear,d from a v reliable source he,s on £2800....hughes was on £3000 dont say that!! it dosnt fit in with certain posters agenda jesus!!
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Post by Blue Mist on Aug 25, 2015 22:19:58 GMT
I know nothing about budgets etc etc but Bringing the thread back to the OP and lack of context I would like to add Darrel has nicer hair than Martin, I choose Darrel. X
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