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Post by faggotygas on Jul 28, 2015 11:42:35 GMT
Handball is not one of the seven sending-off offences. Sorry, you are wrong there. From the FA website disciplinary section.... Sending-off offencesA player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the following seven offences: serious foul play violent conduct spitting at an opponent or any other person denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures receiving a second caution in the same match A player, substitute or substituted player who has been sent off must leave the vicinity of the field of play and the technical area. Read more at www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct.aspx#TfC5lfhv0Z0hQ3rb.99
Handball is not one of the 7 sending-off offences. DOGSO by handball is. The referee clearly made the judgement that it was deliberate hand ball, but that the goalscoring opportunity was not sufficiently obvious for DOGSO by handball to apply. I guess that the referee thought that there was sufficient defenders back to potentially deny Grimsby a simple tap-in from the cross.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:45:42 GMT
Handball is not one of the seven sending-off offences. Sorry, you are wrong there. From the FA website disciplinary section.... Sending-off offencesA player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the following seven offences: serious foul play violent conduct spitting at an opponent or any other person denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures receiving a second caution in the same match A player, substitute or substituted player who has been sent off must leave the vicinity of the field of play and the technical area. Read more at www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct.aspx#TfC5lfhv0Z0hQ3rb.99That's where the laws are the game are right, the referee did not see it as "denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity". A handball in it's own right is never a sending off unless a second yellow. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:48:30 GMT
Should have been 9 players. Taylor should have gone for throwing a punch, and Puddy for handball. And the Wembley gate should have been one less because i have no idea why you went. are you a Fan or a supporter ? I think the latter myself Leave the football to us true FANS Bamber You can be Chairman of the HA Club if you are not already  Goody, in the absence of any counter argument the good old 'you aren't a proper supporter' card has been played. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:50:08 GMT
Should have been 9 players. Taylor should have gone for throwing a punch, and Puddy for handball. What about the bloke that smashed Taylor in the face I think that he got his shiner when he dived to try to get their keeper sent off. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:50:06 GMT
Right, sorry. I've misunderstood then because I thought you were implying that a handball would never result in a red card. Obviously if the incident happened nearer the goal, the ref might have decided it did DOGSO in which case the handball would result in a straight red.
As Chewy says, it can also be a red card when it's a second yellow offence which is completely different.
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Post by brizzle on Jul 28, 2015 11:56:21 GMT
Right, sorry. I've misunderstood then because I thought you were implying that a handball would never result in a red card. Obviously if the incident happened nearer the goal, the ref might have decided it did DOGSO in which case the handball would result in a straight red. As Chewy says, it can also be a red card when it's a second yellow offence which is completely different. Are you looking forward to the new season OG, are there any predictions that you'd care to share with us? Both BRFC and YTFC by the way. |
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 28, 2015 12:01:00 GMT
Right, sorry. I've misunderstood then because I thought you were implying that a handball would never result in a red card. Obviously if the incident happened nearer the goal, the ref might have decided it did DOGSO in which case the handball would result in a straight red. As Chewy says, it can also be a red card when it's a second yellow offence which is completely different. Handball is a dodgy one, all about the referee's interpretation. Depending on the movement of the infringing player, their role on the pitch, the position and direction of the ball, the position and direction of play, the position of the other players on the pitch etc etc handling the ball can result in an indirect free kick, a direct free kick, caution for unsporting behaviour, sending off for DOGSO by handball, or not be an infringement at all if not deemed deliberate or if its a goalkeeper in their own area.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 12:17:36 GMT
I do like DOGSO.
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Post by interceptor on Jul 28, 2015 12:28:03 GMT
MMMMMMM..............nice |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 28, 2015 13:09:28 GMT
And the Wembley gate should have been one less because i have no idea why you went. are you a Fan or a supporter ? I think the latter myself Leave the football to us true FANS Bamber You can be Chairman of the HA Club if you are not already Goody, in the absence of any counter argument the good old 'you aren't a proper supporter' card has been played. i hope you spotted the Bamber...... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 13:21:45 GMT
Goody, in the absence of any counter argument the good old 'you aren't a proper supporter' card has been played. i hope you spotted the Bamber...... Saw it, what exactly does it mean please? |
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 28, 2015 13:41:22 GMT
How many who went to Wycombe when we won 2-1 thought "Clarke`s attempt to keep us in the Football League was pathetic." The bloke had little chance as John Ward had left him with a downward spiral and the Board left him with no way of bringing players in as the transfer deadline was past.Even after the time he took over injuries left us without key players and insufficient defenders. Thankyou Mr Ward. A gentleman but a football Manager who was totally beyond his sell by date. Every Manager has to start somewhere and DC has a brilliant record for a new Manager and I fail to understand how anybody cannot see this. He can only succeed in the League you are competing in. If a youth player had come into the team last season and had a great season EVERYBODY would be raving about him and really looking forward to his performances this season.Is the Manager position any different? I agree. Have said on another thread that Smith's injury at Pompey and Brown's injury on day of Mansfield match left us screwed. Not an excuse but I feel that had both played or even had Brown played last match then I think we would have got the extra point to keep us up. DC was unlucky, not an excuse but as above, he did all he could do last season. You can only compete and do well in the league you're in. And he did that very successfully. UTG! |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 28, 2015 13:46:55 GMT
i hope you spotted the Bamber...... Saw it, what exactly does it mean please? Now Bamber i thought you knew everything - i'm disappointed now |
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Jul 28, 2015 13:57:57 GMT
How many who went to Wycombe when we won 2-1 thought "Clarke`s attempt to keep us in the Football League was pathetic." The bloke had little chance as John Ward had left him with a downward spiral and the Board left him with no way of bringing players in as the transfer deadline was past.Even after the time he took over injuries left us without key players and insufficient defenders. Thankyou Mr Ward. A gentleman but a football Manager who was totally beyond his sell by date. Every Manager has to start somewhere and DC has a brilliant record for a new Manager and I fail to understand how anybody cannot see this. He can only succeed in the League you are competing in. If a youth player had come into the team last season and had a great season EVERYBODY would be raving about him and really looking forward to his performances this season.Is the Manager position any different? I agree. Have said on another thread that Smith's injury at Pompey and Brown's injury on day of Mansfield match left us screwed. Not an excuse but I feel that had both played or even had Brown played last match then I think we would have got the extra point to keep us up. DC was unlucky, not an excuse but as above, he did all he could do last season. You can only compete and do well in the league you're in. And he did that very successfully. UTG! I'd also add Danny Woodards to that list, had Danny not got injured again for the Mansfield game we wouldn't have had to play 3 in defence without wing backs! Nevermind eh  |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 28, 2015 14:04:48 GMT
Handball is not one of the seven sending-off offences. Sorry, you are wrong there. From the FA website disciplinary section.... Sending-off offencesA player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the following seven offences: serious foul play violent conduct spitting at an opponent or any other person denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures receiving a second caution in the same match A player, substitute or substituted player who has been sent off must leave the vicinity of the field of play and the technical area. Read more at www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct.aspx#TfC5lfhv0Z0hQ3rb.99Why I why did they ever add the bit in brackets, it would make the game superbly entertaining if that clause was removed. |
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Post by droitwichgas on Jul 28, 2015 14:15:00 GMT
How many who went to Wycombe when we won 2-1 thought "Clarke`s attempt to keep us in the Football League was pathetic." The bloke had little chance as John Ward had left him with a downward spiral and the Board left him with no way of bringing players in as the transfer deadline was past.Even after the time he took over injuries left us without key players and insufficient defenders. Thankyou Mr Ward. A gentleman but a football Manager who was totally beyond his sell by date. Every Manager has to start somewhere and DC has a brilliant record for a new Manager and I fail to understand how anybody cannot see this. He can only succeed in the League you are competing in. If a youth player had come into the team last season and had a great season EVERYBODY would be raving about him and really looking forward to his performances this season.Is the Manager position any different? I agree. Have said on another thread that Smith's injury at Pompey and Brown's injury on day of Mansfield match left us screwed. Not an excuse but I feel that had both played or even had Brown played last match then I think we would have got the extra point to keep us up. DC was unlucky, not an excuse but as above, he did all he could do last season. You can only compete and do well in the league you're in. And he did that very successfully. UTG! It would have also helped if one of the strikers signed by JW actualy knew where the goal was! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 14:56:50 GMT
Right, sorry. I've misunderstood then because I thought you were implying that a handball would never result in a red card. Obviously if the incident happened nearer the goal, the ref might have decided it did DOGSO in which case the handball would result in a straight red. As Chewy says, it can also be a red card when it's a second yellow offence which is completely different. Are you looking forward to the new season OG, are there any predictions that you'd care to share with us? Both BRFC and YTFC by the way. Hi there....  I'll predict that we might start off a bit sluggish and improve markedly as the fifteen players we've signed this summer begin to gel. At Yeovil, there is always a big turnaround in players from May to July but even by our standards, this has been remarkable. Most signings we've made in one summer since 1995 apparently. None of them are mega-big players so obviously relying on getting a group of lads together, instal the team spirit and go from there, much like our success was built on. We've got Bournemouth tonight and City on Thursday so I'll have a better idea after those two games, I guess. Rovers? Well we reached the dizzy heights of 8th place in the first season after winning the Conference and I think you'll finish in a similar position. The good thing about this division is that you can lose an awful lot of games and still be in the top seven. That year we ended in 8th, we lost 17 or 18 games and missed out on goal difference. The fans have got to get behind the manager and build on the momentum created by the promotion winning season that's just ended. Need to get off to a good start and build on it and not get too sullen if you lose three or four on the trot.
Me, I'm hoping for a green and white / blue and white promotion double. Yes, that's YTFC and Oldland Abbotonians to finish top of their respective leagues. But good luck to Rovers as well. |
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Post by Bernard Briggs on Jul 28, 2015 18:27:35 GMT
I don`t believe that`s true, Nobby. I didn`t expect us to beat Grimsby, and I think we were lucky in the extreme to beat Grimsby, but I`m delighted beyond measure that we did. I`ve watched the penalty shoot out time after time on the tv, and still get choked every time. But I`m still unconvinced by Clarke. I agree with Bamber, Clarke`s attempt to keep us in the Football League was pathetic. To say that he`s the best manager we`ve had recently, is not setting the bar particulary high, is it? It`s a bit like saying that Konrad Adenauer was the best leader that Germany had had in years. I hope that Clarke does the business for us next season, but it would be no great surprise to me if he doesn`t.
Still hoping the day comes when you can say 'I told you so' Absolutely. I spent £300 on a season ticket, in the hope that we`d lose every game and I could have a good moan about the manager. There`s no hiding the truth from you, is there? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 28, 2015 18:55:45 GMT
Think it's slightly different as if the youth player fails there's plenty of other players to take his place, that's not the case if the manager fails.
I don't think there's any guarantee DC can make the step up, as if it was that easy then surely every Div 2 club would look to the Conference for their new manager?
DC's fortunate that he's retained Parkes & Brown plus signed Lines & Easter as they should be 4 strong players at this level. Let's hope for all our sakes DC can make the step up and the BoD have given him sufficient back up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 19:05:38 GMT
Blimey, is this thread still going!
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