Bridgeman
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 27, 2015 19:28:42 GMT
both goalies should have walked Watch the Taylor incident again, looks a nailed on penalty and red card when you watch it in real time, but there's an angle from behind the goal that shows what actually happened. His right ankle has the slightest of touches, he then lands and his left leg, realises that the ball has hit his shin and got away from him, so he throws himself on the floor. Ref got it right. Sorry to disagree with you BG but I've watched probably the same clip as you and the goalie very cleverly catches the bottom of Matty's boot in an upward action not his ankle, it's not much but it was enough to make him lose his balance and fall over, there was no other reason to go down because the ball was rolling slowly enough for him to have had an opportunity to put it in the back of the net. Definite penalty and goalie should have been sent off. I have absolutely no idea why Puddy wasn't sent off though and if he had been maybe the incident with Matty wouldn't have occurred but we can speculate all we like what could or shouldn't have happened, all we do know is that the team that finished 2nd in the league gained promotion because in the penalty shoot out they scored 5 penalties against the team that scored 4. Call it luck, good fortune or good preparation who knows, only Darrel and the players do.
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 27, 2015 19:46:54 GMT
You sense most forum users would, it's bizarre how despondent posters are on both forums following a promotion and we've managed to retain most of the promotion squad and complete the signing of Lines. Yes it is quite wierd really isn't it but I'm of the opinion some forum users are just being deliberately provocative in their views to cause friction and to try and be a negative influence. Of course they are entitled to be like that if they want, it's just how some people are.
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Post by lympstonegas on Jul 27, 2015 20:22:27 GMT
I get the impression that some people (no names, no pack drill) would have been happy to have seen Rovers lose at Wembley so that they could smugly announce, "I told you so"! Certainly one
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 27, 2015 20:23:54 GMT
The team going up finished second in the League so justice was done and deserved.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 20:32:40 GMT
Watch the Taylor incident again, looks a nailed on penalty and red card when you watch it in real time, but there's an angle from behind the goal that shows what actually happened. His right ankle has the slightest of touches, he then lands and his left leg, realises that the ball has hit his shin and got away from him, so he throws himself on the floor. Ref got it right. Sorry to disagree with you BG but I've watched probably the same clip as you and the goalie very cleverly catches the bottom of Matty's boot in an upward action not his ankle, it's not much but it was enough to make him lose his balance and fall over, there was no other reason to go down because the ball was rolling slowly enough for him to have had an opportunity to put it in the back of the net. Definite penalty and goalie should have been sent off. I have absolutely no idea why Puddy wasn't sent off though and if he had been maybe the incident with Matty wouldn't have occurred but we can speculate all we like what could or shouldn't have happened, all we do know is that the team that finished 2nd in the league gained promotion because in the penalty shoot out they scored 5 penalties against the team that scored 4. Call it luck, good fortune or good preparation who knows, only Darrel and the players do. Fair enough, but that doesn't account for Taylor taking a step after the contact and then only going down when the ball has rolled away and a defender is back in position to cover any effort on goal. There's only 1 person who knows for sure, and I'll bet you 50p he ain't telling. I think that Grimsbury scored 3.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 20:49:00 GMT
Sorry to disagree with you BG but I've watched probably the same clip as you and the goalie very cleverly catches the bottom of Matty's boot in an upward action not his ankle, it's not much but it was enough to make him lose his balance and fall over, there was no other reason to go down because the ball was rolling slowly enough for him to have had an opportunity to put it in the back of the net. Definite penalty and goalie should have been sent off. I have absolutely no idea why Puddy wasn't sent off though and if he had been maybe the incident with Matty wouldn't have occurred but we can speculate all we like what could or shouldn't have happened, all we do know is that the team that finished 2nd in the league gained promotion because in the penalty shoot out they scored 5 penalties against the team that scored 4. Call it luck, good fortune or good preparation who knows, only Darrel and the players do. Fair enough, but that doesn't account for Taylor taking a step after the contact and then only going down when the ball has rolled away and a defender is back in position to cover any effort on goal. There's only 1 person who knows for sure, and I'll bet you 50p he ain't telling. I think that Grimsbury scored 3. At the end of the day the team that was 2nd best over the season got promoted. Also that team scored more penalties, and the judge of the day decided that both goalies should stay on the pitch. Football is a funny old game and the football gods were looking down on us.
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Post by Bernard Briggs on Jul 28, 2015 7:21:04 GMT
I get the impression that some people (no names, no pack drill) would have been happy to have seen Rovers lose at Wembley so that they could smugly announce, "I told you so"! I don`t believe that`s true, Nobby. I didn`t expect us to beat Grimsby, and I think we were lucky in the extreme to beat Grimsby, but I`m delighted beyond measure that we did. I`ve watched the penalty shoot out time after time on the tv, and still get choked every time. But I`m still unconvinced by Clarke. I agree with Bamber, Clarke`s attempt to keep us in the Football League was pathetic. To say that he`s the best manager we`ve had recently, is not setting the bar particulary high, is it? It`s a bit like saying that Konrad Adenauer was the best leader that Germany had had in years. I hope that Clarke does the business for us next season, but it would be no great surprise to me if he doesn`t.
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Post by clockendgas on Jul 28, 2015 7:22:22 GMT
maybe we should replay the match? only seems fair to me as people dont seem happy we won.
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 28, 2015 7:27:13 GMT
lets re write history to suit those that who think that we have got where we are by not being good enough or deserving it..FFS get a forking life some people...........oh and by the way the never really sunk... it was unsinkable
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Post by droitwichgas on Jul 28, 2015 7:44:58 GMT
I get the impression that some people (no names, no pack drill) would have been happy to have seen Rovers lose at Wembley so that they could smugly announce, "I told you so"! I don`t believe that`s true, Nobby. I didn`t expect us to beat Grimsby, and I think we were lucky in the extreme to beat Grimsby, but I`m delighted beyond measure that we did. I`ve watched the penalty shoot out time after time on the tv, and still get choked every time. But I`m still unconvinced by Clarke. I agree with Bamber, Clarke`s attempt to keep us in the Football League was pathetic. To say that he`s the best manager we`ve had recently, is not setting the bar particulary high, is it? It`s a bit like saying that Konrad Adenauer was the best leader that Germany had had in years. I hope that Clarke does the business for us next season, but it would be no great surprise to me if he doesn`t. Then again he was given a suicide pass by JW/NH plus he made a far better go of it than Penney did!! 3 promotions in 4 or 5 yeaers suggest he knows something about management.
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Post by fanatical on Jul 28, 2015 8:09:45 GMT
I get the impression that some people (no names, no pack drill) would have been happy to have seen Rovers lose at Wembley so that they could smugly announce, "I told you so"! I don`t believe that`s true, Nobby. I didn`t expect us to beat Grimsby, and I think we were lucky in the extreme to beat Grimsby, but I`m delighted beyond measure that we did. I`ve watched the penalty shoot out time after time on the tv, and still get choked every time. But I`m still unconvinced by Clarke. I agree with Bamber, Clarke`s attempt to keep us in the Football League was pathetic. To say that he`s the best manager we`ve had recently, is not setting the bar particulary high, is it? It`s a bit like saying that Konrad Adenauer was the best leader that Germany had had in years. I hope that Clarke does the business for us next season, but it would be no great surprise to me if he doesn`t.
Still hoping the day comes when you can say 'I told you so'
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Post by fanatical on Jul 28, 2015 8:10:35 GMT
I don`t believe that`s true, Nobby. I didn`t expect us to beat Grimsby, and I think we were lucky in the extreme to beat Grimsby, but I`m delighted beyond measure that we did. I`ve watched the penalty shoot out time after time on the tv, and still get choked every time. But I`m still unconvinced by Clarke. I agree with Bamber, Clarke`s attempt to keep us in the Football League was pathetic. To say that he`s the best manager we`ve had recently, is not setting the bar particulary high, is it? It`s a bit like saying that Konrad Adenauer was the best leader that Germany had had in years. I hope that Clarke does the business for us next season, but it would be no great surprise to me if he doesn`t. Then again he was given a suicide pass by JW/NH plus he made a far better go of it than Penney did!! 3 promotions in 4 or 5 yeaers suggest he knows something about management. well said
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 9:23:46 GMT
I'm curious as to what management skills DC has shown he possesses in the non-league people believe to be non-transferable to League Two? It doesn't suddenly become a different sport.
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 28, 2015 10:54:35 GMT
How many who went to Wycombe when we won 2-1 thought "Clarke`s attempt to keep us in the Football League was pathetic." The bloke had little chance as John Ward had left him with a downward spiral and the Board left him with no way of bringing players in as the transfer deadline was past.Even after the time he took over injuries left us without key players and insufficient defenders. Thankyou Mr Ward. A gentleman but a football Manager who was totally beyond his sell by date. Every Manager has to start somewhere and DC has a brilliant record for a new Manager and I fail to understand how anybody cannot see this. He can only succeed in the League you are competing in. If a youth player had come into the team last season and had a great season EVERYBODY would be raving about him and really looking forward to his performances this season.Is the Manager position any different?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 28, 2015 10:54:58 GMT
That is not the main reason we won that match, Bamber, and if you think that, then you`re as deluded as some other posters think. The main reason we won that game, was because a non league referee made a non league decision, and allowed us to continue with 11 players. Should have been 9 players. Taylor should have gone for throwing a punch, and Puddy for handball. And the Wembley gate should have been one less because i have no idea why you went. are you a Fan or a supporter ? I think the latter myself Leave the football to us true FANS Bamber You can be Chairman of the HA Club if you are not already
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 28, 2015 11:01:40 GMT
That is not the main reason we won that match, Bamber, and if you think that, then you`re as deluded as some other posters think. The main reason we won that game, was because a non league referee made a non league decision, and allowed us to continue with 11 players. Should have been 9 players. Taylor should have gone for throwing a punch, and Puddy for handball. What about the bloke that smashed Taylor in the face
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 28, 2015 11:31:11 GMT
That is not the main reason we won that match, Bamber, and if you think that, then you`re as deluded as some other posters think. The main reason we won that game, was because a non league referee made a non league decision, and allowed us to continue with 11 players. Should have been 9 players. Taylor should have gone for throwing a punch, and Puddy for handball. Handball is not one of the seven sending-off offences.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:31:11 GMT
Should have been 9 players. Taylor should have gone for throwing a punch, and Puddy for handball. What about the bloke that smashed Taylor in the face or who gives a f**k we won?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:34:38 GMT
Should have been 9 players. Taylor should have gone for throwing a punch, and Puddy for handball. Handball is not one of the seven sending-off offences. Sorry, you are wrong there. From the FA website disciplinary section.... Sending-off offencesA player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the following seven offences: serious foul play violent conduct spitting at an opponent or any other person denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures receiving a second caution in the same match A player, substitute or substituted player who has been sent off must leave the vicinity of the field of play and the technical area. Read more at www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct.aspx#TfC5lfhv0Z0hQ3rb.99
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:38:40 GMT
Seriously though, taking in the sh*t and the good of Darrell's reign his win percentage rate stands at 50% exactly with a career total of 52.5%. He's averaging 1.8 point per game with us.
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