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Post by buckrippers on Feb 4, 2015 10:19:10 GMT
I know DC has a lot of love from fans and no doubt I'll take more flak, but I think he got it wrong on Saturday. I hadn't seen us for a while but we were pretty poor against part-time opposition. Our two goals came from defensive mistakes and, in fairness, Dartford had better chances. So when DC once again says how frustrated he was with giving away the lead, he should look at the overall performance. He thinks we deserved to win... I don't. Here's my Post blog www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-ROVERS-BLOG-Frankie-Prince-s-Bovver-Boots/story-25966855-detail/story.html
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Post by faggotygas on Feb 4, 2015 10:25:51 GMT
I know DC has a lot of love from fans and no doubt I'll take more flak, but I think he got it wrong on Saturday. I hadn't seen us for a while but we were pretty poor against part-time opposition. Our two goals came from defensive mistakes and, in fairness, Dartford had better chances. So when DC once again says how frustrated he was with giving away the lead, he should look at the overall performance. He thinks we deserved to win... I don't. Here's my Post blog www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-ROVERS-BLOG-Frankie-Prince-s-Bovver-Boots/story-25966855-detail/story.htmlWe all make mistakes, and in fairness we can't really say for certain if any of the alternatives open to DC would have resulted in a better outcome - that's the problem with making judgements based on just one game.
I prefer to look at overall progress, based on evidence.
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 4, 2015 10:49:45 GMT
I wasn't at the game but we had double the amount of shots as them and 66% possession. Stats don't always tell the full picture if course, however, when you lead twice and have that much more surely you deserve to win??
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Post by LPGas on Feb 4, 2015 10:54:25 GMT
I know DC has a lot of love from fans and no doubt I'll take more flak, but I think he got it wrong on Saturday. I hadn't seen us for a while but we were pretty poor against part-time opposition. Our two goals came from defensive mistakes and, in fairness, Dartford had better chances. So when DC once again says how frustrated he was with giving away the lead, he should look at the overall performance. He thinks we deserved to win... I don't. Here's my Post blog www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-ROVERS-BLOG-Frankie-Prince-s-Bovver-Boots/story-25966855-detail/story.htmlHe is a better manager than you will ever be! I have to ask why you consider yourself a supporter, all you do is moan and criticise, I know that this is a common trait for Bristolians but, we are second in the league, and we need to think about the years Luton and Oxford, both bigger clubs than us in terms of history and size and be grateful we are not in the bottom half as they were for many years. The truth is we are where we are because for the last 7 years we have been on a downward spiral, which at last has been stopped. You need to accept that it is DC who has done that. Perhaps had we not let LL go because so many on the forum were asking "What does he do for his money?" The spiral would not have started, but there we are what do supporters really know about what goes on at the club, the truth is, nothing. The rumours and the "facts" on here and in other places are mostly fabricated.
Your blog would be much more interesting if it sounded like you supported the manager and the team; you don't. Therefore you are a follower, not a supporter
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Post by barleycorn48 on Feb 4, 2015 11:04:29 GMT
I to think the management team have to take much of the blame for many lost points,putting Tom Lockyer into mtdfield is a dreadful mistake, He,s a descent defender with no passing skills whatever, to play him in the midfield was awful he broke down our every move and started many of Dartfords. Jake Gosling was available and not even on the bench. We seem to be happy to keep drawing games as long as we dont lose. This a mistake. If you play ten games and draw ten equals ten points , play ten win five lose five equals fifteen points. I do fear our tactics could well cost us dearly come may
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Post by Curly Wurly on Feb 4, 2015 11:07:04 GMT
I know DC has a lot of love from fans and no doubt I'll take more flak, but I think he got it wrong on Saturday. I hadn't seen us for a while but we were pretty poor against part-time opposition. Our two goals came from defensive mistakes and, in fairness, Dartford had better chances. So when DC once again says how frustrated he was with giving away the lead, he should look at the overall performance. He thinks we deserved to win... I don't. Here's my Post blog www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-ROVERS-BLOG-Frankie-Prince-s-Bovver-Boots/story-25966855-detail/story.htmlMore self-aggrandising nonsense from you Nick. There is no doubting DC's anger during his interview on Saturday and whilst most of this will be directed at the players, I don't doubt that he will look at his own performance and correct as necessary. Your article epitomises the denial that will keep us in this league and I thought we had got out of our system after Braintree and Altrincham. We are where we are and we need to treat games against Dartford as seriously as we would if we were playing Chelsea. I see that from the players and DC, but I don't see it from you.
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Feb 4, 2015 11:17:10 GMT
I can't believe the BEP let this guy post his anti-DC s**te every week.
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Post by dickgherkin on Feb 4, 2015 11:33:19 GMT
I think Buckripper has it right that DC makes mistakes, but less and less as time goes on, and he is still learning - thats why we have him here. In 5 years time, with all the other positive aspects to his managerial style, he will be managing at a much higher level (hopefully with us!).
I think Lockyer is more suited to playing as a defensive midfielder than a fullback, he did that fairly successfully at League 2 level, so i don't think you can class that as a DC mistake. As others have said, all this shows is how sneakingly reliant we have become on 'the duracell bunny' to press teams in midfield, and without him we look sluggish.
Apart from Sinclair's absence, I think the biggest factor against dartford, even bigger than the pitch, was losing easter in the first 10 minutes. I'm sure that rocked the team as much as it has the fans. Is there still no news on his injury?
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Post by Peter Parker on Feb 4, 2015 11:39:53 GMT
I know DC has a lot of love from fans and no doubt I'll take more flak, but I think he got it wrong on Saturday. I hadn't seen us for a while but we were pretty poor against part-time opposition. Our two goals came from defensive mistakes and, in fairness, Dartford had better chances. So when DC once again says how frustrated he was with giving away the lead, he should look at the overall performance. He thinks we deserved to win... I don't. Here's my Post blog www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-ROVERS-BLOG-Frankie-Prince-s-Bovver-Boots/story-25966855-detail/story.htmlHe is a better manager than you will ever be! I have to ask why you consider yourself a supporter, all you do is moan and criticise, I know that this is a common trait for Bristolians but, we are second in the league, and we need to think about the years Luton and Oxford, both bigger clubs than us in terms of history and size and be grateful we are not in the bottom half as they were for many years. The truth is we are where we are because for the last 7 years we have been on a downward spiral, which at last has been stopped. You need to accept that it is DC who has done that. Perhaps had we not let LL go because so many on the forum were asking "What does he do for his money?" The spiral would not have started, but there we are what do supporters really know about what goes on at the club, the truth is, nothing. The rumours and the "facts" on here and in other places are mostly fabricated.
Your blog would be much more interesting if it sounded like you supported the manager and the team; you don't. Therefore you are a follower, not a supporter
The Chairman in his own words said Lennie was a financial disaster. That may be the boards own fault, but if the chairman thinks that I don't think the fans can be blamed for forcing LL out of a job
On DC, I believe he has made mistakes and he has admitted them. I don't believe he is absolving himself of blame.
At least we have a manager who seems to have some determination and is starting to turn things around on the pitch. I'd hate to think what some fans would say if we nowhere near the play-offs
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Post by DudeLebowski on Feb 4, 2015 11:55:05 GMT
Still scratching my head as to what DC has to actually take blame for, so far this season?!
Joint second in the division and one defeat in 25 or so? Barely anyone on here had tipped us for top 3 last summer (fact), so the negativity and borderline depression about this place (and that awful blog) is astounding to say the least.
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Post by Royal Blue on Feb 4, 2015 12:02:13 GMT
To judge our all-round performance on that quagmire of a pitch is unfair, but it sums up the way some people try to find any ammunition they can to fire at DC.
It wasn't pretty, no, but who the hell is going to play good football in a mud bath? I thought we coped with the conditions fairly well and although Dartford did create a couple of chances, we gifted them their goals through individual errors and you just can't legislate for that. Mildy has been great for us but made a mistake and Tom Parkes has been outstanding this season and was very good on Saturday, but handled just outside the box to gift them the free kick they equalised from. It is just the way it seems to be going for us away from home.
DC has made mistakes but he takes responsibility for them when he knows he could have done something better. In these circumstances I'm not sure that he could have stopped Mildy punching the ball in his own net (after a foul?) and stop Parkes from putting his arm out to block the ball, though. He accepts it when he gets things wrong and he's said so publicly a number of times. Some people try and criticise him at every available opportunity because they can then turn around and say 'I did warn you he was too inexperienced' or 'he's been found out', because they EXPECTED him to fail last summer. It gets pretty tedious that we have to discuss his management skills every time we don't win.
I have made it clear I like him both as a person and as a manager and I completely share his anger from Saturday because we shouldn't have drawn the game.
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Post by Peter Parker on Feb 4, 2015 12:02:36 GMT
Still scratching my head as to what DC has to actually take blame for, so far this season?! Joint second in the division and one defeat in 25 or so? Barely anyone on here had tipped us for top 3 last summer (fact), so the negativity and borderline depression about this place (and that awful blog) is astounding to say the least. Agree, their is very little if nothing DC should take the blame for this season (depending on how picky someone wants to be)
The bloke is doing a good job and is second in the league behind a very experienced (and temperamental) manager in this league.
The team can improve and so can DC, but they are doing a decent job so far.
The club as a whole should be doing a lot better, but that falls on people other than DC and shouldn't be directed at him when we have a shot of going straight back up
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 12:09:04 GMT
To judge our all-round performance on that quagmire of a pitch is unfair, but it sums up the way some people try to find any ammunition they can to fire at DC. It wasn't pretty, no, but who the hell is going to play good football in a mud bath? I thought we coped with the conditions fairly well and although Dartford did create a couple of chances, we gifted them their goals through individual errors and you just can't legislate for that. Mildy has been great for us but made a mistake and Tom Parkes has been outstanding this season and was very good on Saturday, but handled just outside the box to gift them the free kick they equalised from. It is just the way it seems to be going for us away from home. DC has made mistakes but he takes responsibility for them when he knows he could have done something better. In these circumstances I'm not sure that he could have stopped Mildy punching the ball in his own net (after a foul?) and stop Parkes from putting his arm out to block the ball, though. He accepts it when he gets things wrong and he's said so publicly a number of times. Some people try and criticise him at every available opportunity because they can then turn around and say 'I did warn you he was too inexperienced' or 'he's been found out', because they EXPECTED him to fail last summer. It gets pretty tedious that we have to discuss his management skills every time we don't win. I have made it clear I like him both as a person and as a manager and I completely share his anger from Saturday because we shouldn't have drawn the game. Quality post agree 100%
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Post by brimmers on Feb 4, 2015 12:30:58 GMT
I agree the management deserve the blame for having us 2nd in the table with 4 months to go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 12:32:06 GMT
i think the evening post blog would much better and more valid if say 3 or 4 authors took it it turns writing it,then you would have a balance of views.
i dont usually read the blogs now because i find the author just looks for ways to snipe at dc but i did read this one sadly
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Post by buckrippers on Feb 4, 2015 13:05:31 GMT
I know DC has a lot of love from fans and no doubt I'll take more flak, but I think he got it wrong on Saturday. I hadn't seen us for a while but we were pretty poor against part-time opposition. Our two goals came from defensive mistakes and, in fairness, Dartford had better chances. So when DC once again says how frustrated he was with giving away the lead, he should look at the overall performance. He thinks we deserved to win... I don't. Here's my Post blog www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-ROVERS-BLOG-Frankie-Prince-s-Bovver-Boots/story-25966855-detail/story.htmlHe is a better manager than you will ever be! I have to ask why you consider yourself a supporter, all you do is moan and criticise, I know that this is a common trait for Bristolians but, we are second in the league, and we need to think about the years Luton and Oxford, both bigger clubs than us in terms of history and size and be grateful we are not in the bottom half as they were for many years. The truth is we are where we are because for the last 7 years we have been on a downward spiral, which at last has been stopped. You need to accept that it is DC who has done that. Perhaps had we not let LL go because so many on the forum were asking "What does he do for his money?" The spiral would not have started, but there we are what do supporters really know about what goes on at the club, the truth is, nothing. The rumours and the "facts" on here and in other places are mostly fabricated.
Your blog would be much more interesting if it sounded like you supported the manager and the team; you don't. Therefore you are a follower, not a supporter
What the hell is that supposed to mean? You can only be classed a supporter if you accept everything at the club is hunky dory, refrain from comment, stick on your ra-ra skirt and wave your pom-poms in the air? I should have worked on Saturday but gave up a day's pay to take four different trains in order to get to Dartford, having paid for my ticket. For 90 minutes I shouted and encouraged the team in an effort to will them to victory. Back in the day I went to nearly every home and away match when a lot of others couldn't be bothered. I don't now because I am 55, have a family and work commitments and, quite frankly, don't find cold days on Conference terraces that appealing. Others work the week and have Saturdays off and feel differently, so fine. But it's not like I'm some glory hunter who goes to Wembley once every ten years. I have heard a lot about DC forging a team capable of challenge for promotion, but sometimes I think his own tactics and approach need questioning. I've seen us a few times away under his command and rarely have we created more than a handful of chances. Drawing at places like Alfreton and Dartford, when we have full-time players who should be fitter and more than capable of winning in these places, requires people to at least debate the tactics used and question the man responsible. The manager seems happy to criticize the likes of Tom Parkes for perhaps the only mistake he made in horrendous conditions, but doesn't ask himself whether his own input was good enough to create more than two chances on goal. That's the view of a supporter, not a follower, and if it doesn't sit well with you then fair enough.
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 4, 2015 13:18:52 GMT
"stick on your ra-ra skirt and wave your pom-poms in the air" - Keep going....I'm almost there.....
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Feb 4, 2015 13:41:42 GMT
I don't get what people are trying to achieve with the continuing criticism of Darrell Clarke? At the start of the season my expectations were in the gutter and to get to second with a squad of good honest players who all seem to be pulling in the same direction is not to be sniffed at! If Stuart Sinclair hadn't fractured his foot in training, I'm certain we'd now be two points behind Barnet and the momentum would be with us.
Fortunately the majority of supporters (or followers) don't seem narrow minded enough to not be able to recognise the occasions when we have been unfortunate.
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Post by tbonegas on Feb 4, 2015 14:00:19 GMT
Sack the board
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Post by faggotygas on Feb 4, 2015 14:58:51 GMT
I don't get what people are trying to achieve with the continuing critici sm of Darrell Clarke? At the start of the season my expectations were in the gutter and to get to second with a squad of good honest players who all seem to be pulling in the same direction is not to be sniffed at! If Stuart Sinclair hadn't fractured his foot in training, I'm certain we'd now be two points behind Barnet and the momentum would be with us. Fortunately the majority of supporters (or followers) don't seem narrow minded enough to not be able to recognise the occasions when we have been unfortunate. Is anyone trying to achieve anything by posting their opinion on a internet messageboard?
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