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Byron Anthony
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Post by faggotygas on Jan 2, 2015 10:22:03 GMT
Hargreaves is an idiot, but I think he has a point here. Yes, it probably was a foul. But you see it time and time again in games at all levels, why is it only occasionally given as a pen? Two wrongs don't make a right. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 10:25:16 GMT
Hargreaves is an idiot, but I think he has a point here. Yes, it probably was a foul. But you see it time and time again in games at all levels, why is it only occasionally given as a pen? The ref made a rod for his own back pulling up two or three 'fouls' by Taylor in the ten minutes preceeding. If they were fouls the penalty was stone wall. Of course Hargreaves will try and deflected blame for his moron that got sent off as well. Should have been a straight red. |
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Post by matealotblue on Jan 2, 2015 10:55:23 GMT
What a muppet he is. Where were the "8000" fans calling for a penalty? Think most of the ground were not aware of anything until the linesmans flag went up. Just goes to show all managers will say anything to put a "hard done by" spin on things. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 2, 2015 11:07:38 GMT
What a muppet he is. Where were the "8000" fans calling for a penalty? Think most of the ground were not aware of anything until the linesmans flag went up. Just goes to show all managers will say anything to put a "hard done by" spin on things. I/we stand in the vicinity of that linesman's hearing. There was no more vocal pressure on that shout than there was on Blissett being manhandled and ref blowing for a foul the other way. Or when Blissett was blatantly fouled from behind and went down (near the dug out) and nothing given. One thing observe is the linesman rarely flag for fouls on this side, so to give a penalty he must've been sure. And he was right. It's definitely an infringement in the area and thus warrants a penalty kick. What Hargreaves should concentrate on is the stupidity of making a challenge like that and the subsequent undisciplined response of his players after. It looked like MacDonald went to push or lay hands on the ref in frustration, thus was issued a second yellow. The pressure from the crowd was negligible as linesman flagged pretty much straight away. |
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Post by LJG on Jan 2, 2015 11:41:33 GMT
I think some can be quick to criticise when rovers are not dominating a game. Personally I thought it was pretty even, and a draw was a fair result. We looked like we had slightly more ability, but Torquay were very up for it. I can't agree that it was pretty even. We were second to every ball as I saw it. They had quick passing penetration and we just weren't making inroads (mainly because every player acted like the ball was a time bomb and booted it as soon as it came anywhere near them) - not until the last five minutes. |
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Post by Bamber Gashead on Jan 2, 2015 11:47:29 GMT
What a muppet he is. Where were the "8000" fans calling for a penalty? Think most of the ground were not aware of anything until the linesmans flag went up. Just goes to show all managers will say anything to put a "hard done by" spin on things. I/we stand in the vicinity of that linesman's hearing. There was no more vocal pressure on that shout than there was on Blissett being manhandled and ref blowing for a foul the other way. Or when Blissett was blatantly fouled from behind and went down (near the dug out) and nothing given. One thing observe is the linesman rarely flag for fouls on this side, so to give a penalty he must've been sure. And he was right. It's definitely an infringement in the area and thus warrants a penalty kick. What Hargreaves should concentrate on is the stupidity of making a challenge like that and the subsequent undisciplined response of his players after. It looked like MacDonald went to push or lay hands on the ref in frustration, thus was issued a second yellow. The pressure from the crowd was negligible as linesman flagged pretty much straight away. Agreed. I had a good view from behind the goal and Ellis was definitely impeded as the ball came over. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 12:01:46 GMT
You say impeded I say bundled over, let's call the whole thing off.
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Post by Alveston Gas on Jan 2, 2015 12:17:13 GMT
Saying we can't catch Barnet is defeatist claptrap. Of course we can As a pundit would say "barnet haven't had a wobbly period yet" it's bound to happen at some time, or they loose Akinde, anything might happen. Got to keep the chase going until either we nose in front v Alfreton or we can't catch them! |
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Post by alloutofgas on Jan 2, 2015 12:21:09 GMT
Yes, we were second to nearly everything and have to consider ourselves lucky to snatch a point. However, 10 points from 12, which could turn into 13 from 15 on Sunday. Very pleased with our Christmas sequence of results. The best in 15 years? Credit to Darrell and the players, they don't give up.
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Post by alloutofgas on Jan 2, 2015 12:22:40 GMT
Saying we can't catch Barnet is defeatist claptrap. Of course we can As a pundit would say "barnet haven't had a wobbly period yet" it's bound to happen at some time, or they loose Akinde, anything might happen. Got to keep the chase going until either we nose in front v Alfreton or we can't catch them! Also, Mad Dog could be a target for Gillingham. Lots could happen in the next month. |
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Post by faggotygas on Jan 2, 2015 12:55:16 GMT
I think some can be quick to criticise when rovers are not dominating a game. Personally I thought it was pretty even, and a draw was a fair result. We looked like we had slightly more ability, but Torquay were very up for it. I can't agree that it was pretty even. We were second to every ball as I saw it. They had quick passing penetration and we just weren't making inroads (mainly because every player acted like the ball was a time bomb and booted it as soon as it came anywhere near them) - not until the last five minutes. We all see it differently, but I recall Torquay being the ones lumping it as high and as far as they could to their big man up front, while(in the second half at least) we generally kept the ball down. I also remember having as many, if not more, good chances as Torquay. |
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Post by LJG on Jan 2, 2015 13:15:21 GMT
I can't agree that it was pretty even. We were second to every ball as I saw it. They had quick passing penetration and we just weren't making inroads (mainly because every player acted like the ball was a time bomb and booted it as soon as it came anywhere near them) - not until the last five minutes. We all see it differently, but I recall Torquay being the ones lumping it as high and as far as they could to their big man up front, while(in the second half at least) we generally kept the ball down. I also remember having as many, if not more, good chances as Torquay. Interesting. Perhaps we class chances differently. I can recall a few passages of play resulting in soft touch movements towards goal which were easily saved or defended but very few (if any - bar one long range shot from Sinclair) sharp intake of breath "I thought that was in then" moments. |
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jan 2, 2015 13:32:14 GMT
Hargreaves is an idiot, but I think he has a point here. Yes, it probably was a foul. But you see it time and time again in games at all levels, why is it only occasionally given as a pen? The ref made a rod for his own back pulling up two or three 'fouls' by Taylor in the ten minutes preceeding. If they were fouls the penalty was stone wall. Of course Hargreaves will try and deflected blame for his moron that got sent off as well. Should have been a straight red. From the Torquay end: Ellis is pretty obviously held by the defender. OK, plenty of times this sort of thing would not have been given, but it is clearly a foul and the defender made it obvious to the linesman, by being the last man. Despite Hargreaves' moaning, I'm pleased that the linesman has shown the backbone to flag for the decision. Too many times the linesmen seem only willing to be there for offsides and throw ins. In this case two officials have agreed as the Referee could have easily over-ruled the linesman. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 13:54:29 GMT
What a muppet he is. Where were the "8000" fans calling for a penalty? Think most of the ground were not aware of anything until the linesmans flag went up. Just goes to show all managers will say anything to put a "hard done by" spin on things. Yep laughable that the Torquay manager put the penalty award down to crowd pressure,no appeals from the crowd and it only got noisy when the players went ballistic after the spot kick was given.If the roles were reversed though and we were robbed of 2 points the Lino would have got lynched. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 2, 2015 14:00:00 GMT
Whilst it's good film of the incident it's still fairly inconclusive, if ref's awarded pens for those types of incidents McChrystal in particular would get penalised at ever one of our corners.
That must be one of the softest penalty we have ever been awarded, perhaps our luck has finally changed, or Torquay have even less luck than us after the disallowed goal at Plain Moor?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 14:02:43 GMT
Hargreaves should be hauling his lad over the coals for getting sent off for acting like a bellend tbh
His team were slowing things down, wasting time etc from early in the first half. No sympathy for teams like that
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Post by sharkey on Jan 2, 2015 14:32:18 GMT
What about the penalty we conceded at Braintree? You get some, you lose some. Swings and roundabouts. Etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 14:57:31 GMT
What about the penalty we conceded at Braintree? You get some, you lose some. Swings and roundabouts. Etc. Well indeed. I can appreciate the frustration at lack of consistency etc but there it is, I don't think the sort of comments we see from Hargreaves and other managers really help tbh |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 2, 2015 15:02:13 GMT
That must be one of the softest penalty we have ever been awarded... Yeah, weird (as in, not weird at all) that we get it when we're second in the league. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 15:11:09 GMT
Same old hyporcritical B/S from Westcountry, when Wardy started games without natural wingers he was calling for him to be hung from the top of the Centenary Stand butwhen hero Darrell does it, its a showing of tactical mastery.Please point out where i've posted that. What i will say is John '4-2-3-1' Ward or Darrell '4-4-2, 3-5-2, 4-3-1-2' Clarke, 2 is the magic number! If you want proof of your sniping at JW then go back to June /July of 2013 when you were calling for his sacking deapite his saving us from relegation |
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