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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 20:22:23 GMT
We were definitely poor today, and Westcountry's "we can't catch Barnet" schtick is daft. It's nine points. Three wins.
Gosling tore them a new one at Plainmoor. It would've made as much sense to play him for the first half hour as it did for the last half hour.
If upsetting our midfield selection isn't what caused us to look like a shadow of the side that played on Boxing Day, what is? Because Torquay have played the same amount of games lately and didn't look as listless as we did for the first hour.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 20:26:29 GMT
We were definitely poor today, and Westcountry's "we can't catch Barnet" schtick is daft. It's nine points. Three wins. Gosling tore them a new one at Plainmoor. It would've made as much sense to play him for the first half hour as it did for the last half hour. If upsetting our midfield selection isn't what caused us to look like a shadow of the side that played on Boxing Day, what is? Because Torquay have played the same amount of games lately and didn't look as listless as we did for the first hour. I think it was the midfield shuffle and it's a real shame it took until five minutes from time for DC to put Gos on that right wing because he was handing Torquay's full back his arse to him all over again. Twenty minutes of that and we would have got the winner IMO. |
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Post by Alveston Gas on Jan 1, 2015 20:28:25 GMT
Simple question to those get carried away with the team selection, who should have played out wide instead of Sinclair? Gosling |
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Post by vaughan on Jan 1, 2015 20:44:00 GMT
I'm sorry but DC cost us 2 points today because of team selection.
Ollie Clarke's performance in first-half was extremely poor and made the Sinclair (wide-right) decision even more baffling. Sinclair plus impressive team fitness transformed the game when Clarke left the field. I would have made that sub after 30 mins.
DC loves to tinker too much.
The next month is critical. We need a creative midfielder, flying right-winger and striker. In terms of creativity, we are non-league in all senses. So let's see what he brings in. Worryingly, Blissett looks more like Bambi than Devon.
Johnson will be gone by end of season, so everything is set-up for next season. I'd rather retain DC and go up this season (it's a results business - cliche) but I don't think DC has what it takes to win vital games in the play-offs (if we get there).
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Jan 1, 2015 20:45:39 GMT
Did you not realise Gosling was carrying a knock, which is why he was on the bench. I'm not sure Sinclair playing out wide had anything to with not winning the game. A draw was great result, unbeaten run now 12 games, 1 defeat in our last 22 league games, 2nd in the league, 9 point gap between us and the team in 6th, if people can't be happy with that and focus on a single player selection which seems to be the big vibe tonight on the forums & twitter, then we might aswell give up now. We were by no means poor today, but not firing on all cylinders either which was fully expected after a crazy amount of games in which the players have given it everything and been superb. Not in a million years do i expect us to catch Barnet, a play-off place would be excellent, some of those demanding we win the league think we have a s***e manager and crap players, you can't have it both ways, we are having an excellent season, time to push on and cement our play-off place. I like your post Westcountrygas. If we are 9points behind Barnet with little chance of catching them, does that make the same little chance of anyone catching us as we are 9points ahead of 6th place? (games in hand aside) Btw, we are still top of form chart over 8matches! By 1 point.. The problem is chasing a team is much harder than keeping out teams below you. Astafjevs said it's only 9 points or 3 wins to catch Barnet, it's not as simple as that because i can't see Barnet losing anymore than 2 or 3 before the end of the season and we certainly aren't going to take maximum points from all of our remaining games. The number one aim should be making sure this season is not a repeat of the 99/00 season, and i hope that come May everyone will be delighted with a play-off place and not disappointed, because we will have 3 massive games to get back to the promised land. |
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Jan 1, 2015 20:47:18 GMT
Simple question to those get carried away with the team selection, who should have played out wide instead of Sinclair? Gosling  ?? |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 1, 2015 21:04:09 GMT
I like your post Westcountrygas. If we are 9points behind Barnet with little chance of catching them, does that make the same little chance of anyone catching us as we are 9points ahead of 6th place? (games in hand aside) Btw, we are still top of form chart over 8matches! By 1 point.. The problem is chasing a team is much harder than keeping out teams below you. Astafjevs said it's only 9 points or 3 wins to catch Barnet, it's not as simple as that because i can't see Barnet losing anymore than 2 or 3 before the end of the season and we certainly aren't going to take maximum points from all of our remaining games. The number one aim should be making sure this season is not a repeat of the 99/00 season, and i hope that come May everyone will be delighted with a play-off place and not disappointed, because we will have 3 massive games to get back to the promised land. Again agree with you Westcountrygas, and on the season so far, it's hard to see where Barnet may slip up. Lincoln on Sunday (as Lincoln form is encouraging) and someone said Barnet v Grimsby is a fixture yet played at either venue. Plus, we don't know our comings and goings yet, let alone anyone else's. One thing we all remember is that slip in Ollies year. That is indeed a good lesson to learn. I think I you ask most GasHeads, they are looking up, not down. I'm not saying there's complacency, just there is a chance to catch Barnet if we get our game plan right. I liked Torquay no 12, whom was subbed. He put over a few crosses. I also liked the small contribution from Ellis, especially when he outpaced Downes (whom had a few yards on him)to earn a corner. We were spirited again today in second half. It wasn't enough to win, but like I said before, credit where its due, Torquay came and tried to win. They beat Barnet at their place, i hope they play with the same vigour away to them (if they haven't already) and all our play off rivals. Good display by opposition. |
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jan 1, 2015 21:04:33 GMT
BOOM!! Lovely to see a packed 'Filton Bank End' celebrating a barely deserved equaliser!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 21:25:48 GMT
Saying we can't catch Barnet is defeatist claptrap. Of course we can
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 22:01:50 GMT
I like your post Westcountrygas. If we are 9points behind Barnet with little chance of catching them, does that make the same little chance of anyone catching us as we are 9points ahead of 6th place? (games in hand aside) Btw, we are still top of form chart over 8matches! By 1 point.. The problem is chasing a team is much harder than keeping out teams below you. Astafjevs said it's only 9 points or 3 wins to catch Barnet, it's not as simple as that It really is. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 22:04:55 GMT
My observations on today please bear in mind I was looking through beer goggles and I haven't read a word of this thread so any views different to my own I will accept as true.Firstly Clarke in midfield and the beard on the wing? How many times does the manager need to see that it doesn't work,a Manse and Sincs in centre midfield is so fecking clearly our best pairing and I think olly Clarke was actually playing for torquay not us today.we were 2nd all over the pitch from minute1 and Downes was all over Matty Taylor like a rash and the cocky b'stard that scored outmuscled Parkes so easily at times it was pitiful,Trott seemed to cope much better against him but they seemed to alternate between who was marking the git.2nd half started off in the same fashion but tactically I have no idea what we were trying to do as sincs was playing everywhere except on the right and when Gosling replaced Clsrke he also went nowhere near the right flank and poor old Leadbitter was left to do 2 men's work which in all fairness he had a good go at. One save from sincs shot all game by their keeper but none that I can recall by Puddy and that seems odd thinking about how open the game appeared to me.Didnt look like equalising really and the penalty decision looked like a joke to me and I don't blame the torquay players one bit for losing the plot over it,just a cross that sailed over Leadbitter and the defenders head that there was no reaction at all from anyone near me asking for a penalty or any players so what the Lino saw I have no clue about.Overall we were a dogs dinner today and it was a point that we never deserved in all honesty.Fair play to torquay they wanted it more today and revenge was on their mind as we turned them over just 6 days ago and they were better than Barnet as well.
Having said all that 10 pts from the last 4 games is a superb return from the teams we played against and to come out with the same number of points as Barnet got against much easier opponents is a bloody great effort.Bad day at the office but we move on without too much damage done,don't play Clarke next game though please Mr manager.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 1, 2015 22:05:29 GMT
The problem is chasing a team is much harder than keeping out teams below you. Astafjevs said it's only 9 points or 3 wins to catch Barnet, it's not as simple as that It really is. Well in all honesty, wwe probably need 10 points due to our much inferior goal difference. But the principle is still the same. We can do it, it's all to play for.. |
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Jan 1, 2015 22:05:40 GMT
The problem is chasing a team is much harder than keeping out teams below you. Astafjevs said it's only 9 points or 3 wins to catch Barnet, it's not as simple as that It really is. Have we played 3 games less than Barnet? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 22:08:55 GMT
Have we played 3 games less than Barnet? Do you really need me to amend it to say we need to win three games more than Barnet do? Because I'd have thought that was self-evident. |
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Post by kwoodgas on Jan 1, 2015 22:10:42 GMT
Same old hyporcritical B/S from Westcountry, when Wardy started games without natural wingers he was calling for him to be hung from the top of the Centenary Stand butwhen hero Darrell does it, its a showing of tactical mastery.
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Jan 1, 2015 22:19:30 GMT
Same old hyporcritical B/S from Westcountry, when Wardy started games without natural wingers he was calling for him to be hung from the top of the Centenary Stand butwhen hero Darrell does it, its a showing of tactical mastery.Please point out where i've posted that. What i will say is John '4-2-3-1' Ward or Darrell '4-4-2, 3-5-2, 4-3-1-2' Clarke, 2 is the magic number! |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jan 2, 2015 3:57:20 GMT
Seems this game has confirmed it is easier to question or criticise third world dictators than DC. God help Sony if they ever make a film about his life history
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Post by faggotygas on Jan 2, 2015 8:45:56 GMT
I think some can be quick to criticise when rovers are not dominating a game. Personally I thought it was pretty even, and a draw was a fair result. We looked like we had slightly more ability, but Torquay were very up for it.
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 2, 2015 9:38:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 10:12:36 GMT
Hargreaves is an idiot, but I think he has a point here. Yes, it probably was a foul. But you see it time and time again in games at all levels, why is it only occasionally given as a pen?
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