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Nov 19, 2014 12:10:45 GMT
Post by faggotygas on Nov 19, 2014 12:10:45 GMT
I think the problem is when they profess undying love for the club, then don't walk the walk. I don't think Ollie's done that. He's pretty pragmatic about it in his book. He's sentimental sure, but why wouldn't you be? He's also pretty clear that he'll never have any association with BRFC whatsoever ever again. maybe, those who were around more during the era may be able to clarify that.
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Nov 19, 2014 12:14:16 GMT
Post by LJG on Nov 19, 2014 12:14:16 GMT
I don't think Ollie's done that. He's pretty pragmatic about it in his book. He's sentimental sure, but why wouldn't you be? He's also pretty clear that he'll never have any association with BRFC whatsoever ever again. maybe, those who were around more during the era may be able to clarify that. Clarify what he says in his book?
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Alveston Gas
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Nov 19, 2014 12:18:59 GMT
Post by Alveston Gas on Nov 19, 2014 12:18:59 GMT
Not bigger clubs obviously not but based on our wage budget of £750k I suspect theirs is bigger aside thats not our wage budget I find it strange how everyone knows our wages budget - and probably each individual players wage - thought that was all P&C! #guessers? #ITK?
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faggotygas
Byron Anthony
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Nov 19, 2014 13:04:01 GMT
Post by faggotygas on Nov 19, 2014 13:04:01 GMT
maybe, those who were around more during the era may be able to clarify that. Clarify what he says in his book? I read his book on an airplane, and I'm sure that if it contained everything he ever said in his life I wouldn't have finished it before landing.
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Nov 19, 2014 13:16:57 GMT
Post by LJG on Nov 19, 2014 13:16:57 GMT
Clarify what he says in his book? I read his book on an airplane, and I'm sure that if it contained everything he ever said in his life I wouldn't have finished it before landing. Why would everything (or even anything) else he'd said in his life matter? He's publicly very clear about what association he will have with the club - none. He may say he has undying love for the club privately, I'm sure he does. Doesn't mean he has to build his career around us does it? You can love something and know it's not right for you.
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Nov 19, 2014 13:20:56 GMT
Post by brizzle on Nov 19, 2014 13:20:56 GMT
This sort of thing has always confused me - the clue is in the words "professional footballer"; it's their profession. Why is professional ambition for them any different to you or I? I'll serve my employer or my professional associates perfectly well during that time but no one else is going to advance me as an individual I have to do that myself. I can be very fond of former employers or clients and try to send work or advice their way when I can but to say that unless I stay in a place that is not advancing me as best it can I am disloyal is just b0ll0cks. If we all stayed put at jobs where the people were nice I'd still be working Sundays stacking the shelves at Waitrose. I think the problem is when they profess undying love for the club, then don't walk the walk.That's exactly right, faggotygas. After all Holloway has done something that I've never heard of happening before (even in this age of agents), and that is to sign a professional playing contract with a second club whilst still being under contract to his original club. That part at least was disloyal by anyone's standards. But as always people will believe what they want to believe, or have read the expurgated version of events in the players autobiography. Just a thought to LJG, do you remember what Holloway was quoted as saying when he left BRFC to play for Wimbledon? Well like a few others I do remember, and it didn't make for very pleasant reading either at the time, or even today. Don't forget that he learnt his trade at this club, and when he decided that it was time to move on, then the deal was done just like ever-so-many other players. It should have ended there, as there was no need to slag the club off to the Press. I don't recall too many players having a go at the club after they have left, but he did. That part at least was not only disloyal but unprofessional in my opinion.
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faggotygas
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Nov 19, 2014 14:04:42 GMT
Post by faggotygas on Nov 19, 2014 14:04:42 GMT
I read his book on an airplane, and I'm sure that if it contained everything he ever said in his life I wouldn't have finished it before landing. Why would everything (or even anything) else he'd said in his life matter? He's publicly very clear about what association he will have with the club - none. He may say he has undying love for the club privately, I'm sure he does. Doesn't mean he has to build his career around us does it? You can love something and know it's not right for you. Oh man, you're an intelligent bloke but sometimes I think you act obtuse on purpose. The book was written long after the fact. If Ollie professed his undying love for the club, then didn't act that way, then it doesn't matter if he retracts that love or claims he never felt it decades later in a book, he still said it and some people are still going to feel betrayed. That's if he did say it, which I don't know because I wasn't around at the time, but you brought it into the realms of the hypothetical ("Why would everything (or even anything) else he'd said in his life matter"). So now we are having an virtual argument about the possible effects on hypothetical people of something that may or may not be imaginary...
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Nov 19, 2014 14:25:59 GMT
Post by LJG on Nov 19, 2014 14:25:59 GMT
Why would everything (or even anything) else he'd said in his life matter? He's publicly very clear about what association he will have with the club - none. He may say he has undying love for the club privately, I'm sure he does. Doesn't mean he has to build his career around us does it? You can love something and know it's not right for you. Oh man, you're an intelligent bloke but sometimes I think you act obtuse on purpose. The book was written long after the fact. If Ollie professed his undying love for the club, then didn't act that way, then it doesn't matter if he retracts that love or claims he never felt it decades later in a book, he still said it and some people are still going to feel betrayed. That's if he did say it, which I don't know because I wasn't around at the time, but you brought it into the realms of the hypothetical ("Why would everything (or even anything) else he'd said in his life matter"). So now we are having an virtual argument about the possible effects on hypothetical people of something that may or may not be imaginary... Indeed. I think we were in fact talking about slightly different things. You the past, me the present. All is now clear.
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Nov 19, 2014 14:34:23 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 14:34:23 GMT
dupicate post
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Easter
Nov 19, 2014 14:40:56 GMT
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Post by milesy1983 on Nov 19, 2014 14:40:56 GMT
Is it true Easter has turned down crawley to come to us on loan?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 14:43:05 GMT
Is it true Easter has turned down crawley to come to us on loan? Tis true.
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Easter
Nov 19, 2014 15:41:03 GMT
Post by droitwichgas on Nov 19, 2014 15:41:03 GMT
or maybe not?
Neil Davies@poppet_2013· @craignoch 2nd offer fell through last night, again on personal terms. 3rd & final offer to Easter on table now apparently.
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Nov 19, 2014 15:48:07 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 15:48:07 GMT
The big problem is he's on championship money but he's willing to take a drop but how much of a drop is obviously a problem.
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Post by Gas Since 1957 on Nov 19, 2014 16:01:41 GMT
The big problem is he's on championship money but he's willing to take a drop but how much of a drop is obviously a problem. The way I see it, if he is serious about being closer to Cardiff we should now stand firm on our final offer. If he doesn't want to agree terms I'm sure FGR will offer more money to him but I'm fed up with players using Rovers for big final paydays. If signing him would guarantee promotion that would be another matter but if money is his main concern, it's no thanks from me (and DC as well I would imagine)
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Nov 19, 2014 16:14:13 GMT
Post by brizzle on Nov 19, 2014 16:14:13 GMT
The big problem is he's on championship money but he's willing to take a drop but how much of a drop is obviously a problem. But I thought that you had posted that it was a done deal, baldergas. It seems that I misunderstood you, eh? I thought that the financial side of it was settled, but his agent had asked for a 12-month deal to compensate, or am I behind the times here? Have I got the right player even, not to mention the correct buying/selling club, and all of the other clubs that are/maybe interested/involved. And there was me awaiting the usual type of unveiling at The Mem (blue and white scarf held up above head, together with the usual spouted platitudes), and expecting the player to be knocking in at least two goals on Saturday. I'm just relieved that we only decided to try to sign one player this week, as opposed to the possible two that were in our sights. Small mercies eh?
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Easter
Nov 19, 2014 16:15:13 GMT
Post by warwickgas on Nov 19, 2014 16:15:13 GMT
Wiki have got him down as playing for us, squad no 9. Cant be right as Brunt is 9
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Post by milesy1983 on Nov 19, 2014 16:18:18 GMT
If on wiki,it has to be a done deal!!
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Nov 19, 2014 16:21:35 GMT
Post by brizzle on Nov 19, 2014 16:21:35 GMT
If on wiki,it has to be a done deal!! Who's gonna tell Ryan Brunt?
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Nov 19, 2014 16:22:07 GMT
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Post by milesy1983 on Nov 19, 2014 16:22:07 GMT
Maybe he has already been told lol
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Lindsay Parsons
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Nov 19, 2014 16:24:14 GMT
Post by brizzle on Nov 19, 2014 16:24:14 GMT
Maybe he has already been told lol What, with our organising abilities?
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