me
Joined: June 2014
Posts: 155
|
Post by me on Nov 13, 2014 14:03:53 GMT
I have just read the article again and can't see how all fans are being tarred with the same brush. DC makes it pretty clear it was aimed at the person who boarded the bus and the supporters who feel they have the right to hurl abuse at individuals. There are a few players in the current squad who I get frustrated with but I never verbally abuse them and try and encourage them instead. I feel we have quite a few fans who go over the top verbally, I experienced this at Barnet this season. It comes down to the same previously discussed subject - is it ok to voice concerns and verbally abuse players? I for one have always said it has a negative effect on the players and therefore don't join in. However I'm a laid back chap and appreciate we are not all made the same, but surely these supporters can clearly see their actions are negatively affecting our players. This will obviously have a detrimental effect on what we all want, to get back in the football league.
“The players are a bit down and they can’t understand all the negativity that is surrounding the place at the minute. I’ve told them that it is tough being a Bristol Rovers player but we have to get on with it.
“The stick that we got after a draw at Alfreton is making me think that we are getting to a point where we have to build a sanctuary for the players. It does feel at times that it is us against the world because people keep reminding me where Bristol Rovers were five or six years ago.
That kind of suggest more than the odd supporter. I am sure the precious souls could brush off a couple of knobheads and even have a laugh at a couple of idiots
Like I said, it's more than a couple of knobheads and a couple of idiots. These people do not appreciate that DC is trying to overhaul the whole squad and that invariably takes a while.
|
|
|
Post by gashead1979 on Nov 13, 2014 14:04:28 GMT
Score goals, win matches and any lingering negativity will disappear. Simples
|
|
Peter Parker
Global Moderator
Richard Walker
You have been sentenced to DELETION!
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,920
|
Post by Peter Parker on Nov 13, 2014 14:11:56 GMT
“The players are a bit down and they can’t understand all the negativity that is surrounding the place at the minute. I’ve told them that it is tough being a Bristol Rovers player but we have to get on with it.
“The stick that we got after a draw at Alfreton is making me think that we are getting to a point where we have to build a sanctuary for the players. It does feel at times that it is us against the world because people keep reminding me where Bristol Rovers were five or six years ago.
That kind of suggest more than the odd supporter. I am sure the precious souls could brush off a couple of knobheads and even have a laugh at a couple of idiots
Like I said, it's more than a couple of knobheads and a couple of idiots. These people do not appreciate that DC is trying to overhaul the whole squad and that invariably takes a while. and in general, I think the support has been pretty uh, supportive
I like DC, but it sounds like whinging (sp?) to me. Perhaps him and a few of the players need to grow a set
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 14:22:37 GMT
Credit to Nick Higgs for supporting the Manager in today's Chairmans report and condoning the behaviour of a moron who thinks its perfectly acceptable to board the team coach, and also sending a message out to the fans to unite behind a young manager and squad who are doing remarkably well given the circumstances, oh wait a minute, sorry no he didn't, another one hung out to dry with no solidarity from the esteemed 'leader'.
|
|
|
Post by westbourne gas on Nov 13, 2014 14:23:44 GMT
I certainly dont condone what these nutters get up to but in my opinion we have totally the wrong manager. This is a crap league and for any experienced manager with this clubs resourses I do expect us to be top or very near it not 10 points or so behind the leaders. From what I have seen this is the poorest Gas squad i can remember and I blame DC for that. Hes not the right man. So there!
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Nov 13, 2014 14:43:27 GMT
Surely it's time for our BoD to get onto the terraces and speak to these fans, anybody whose has been to an away game knows who they are and if they are not dealt with will continue. incidentially I think you are going to be a brave fan who tries to film any of them!!
|
|
|
Post by Curly Wurly on Nov 13, 2014 14:46:50 GMT
I certainly dont condone what these nutters get up to but in my opinion we have totally the wrong manager. This is a crap league and for any experienced manager with this clubs resourses I do expect us to be top or very near it not 10 points or so behind the leaders. From what I have seen this is the poorest Gas squad i can remember and I blame DC for that. Hes not the right man. So there! Then you have not taken on board the reality that most of us accept that this is not some tin-pot league and there are some good footballing sides in it. Carry this attitude and you will be constantly disappointed. Yes it would be outstanding if we could challenge to win the league, but we are in the play off positions. DC accepts himself that we are not scoring enough goals, but he is trying his best to do that within the constraints of budget, transfer window and the fact that 20+ goal per season strikers are like hens teeth. For me this goes to the root of being a supporter or being a customer. Yes, I want to be entertained. Yes, I want us to win, but I'll do all I can to let the team know that I am behind them to help them win. Some others clearly don't share this opinion.
|
|
|
Post by mclovin1883 on Nov 13, 2014 14:53:45 GMT
Well I don't like the fact that this is happened one bit I have seen all the games and at the moment it is like Ashton gate on away games heckling the players etc but maybe when dc says he needs to pick the players up let him do his bit but on Saturday it's down to us to show our appreciation of the team and what spirit they have got lets get behind them and on the 12 minute to represent the 12th manmelts start the chant dcs barnyard army and get the whole ground behind them and drown out all of these idiots
|
|
|
Post by p4perlant3rn on Nov 13, 2014 14:58:01 GMT
I certainly dont condone what these nutters get up to but in my opinion we have totally the wrong manager. This is a crap league and for any experienced manager with this clubs resourses I do expect us to be top or very near it not 10 points or so behind the leaders. From what I have seen this is the poorest Gas squad i can remember and I blame DC for that. Hes not the right man. So there! Im sure you dont want to let facts get in the way of a story, but just for clarity we are 9 points off the top with a game in hand and we play Barnet in 12 days. The reality, as supported by the form of clubs that have been relegated to the Conference over the past 10 years or so, is that it is extremely unlikely that a club will bounce back at the first time of asking. For the first time in a long time we are not playing badly, and have a great opportunity to be challenging at the end of the season. Our job is to get behind the manager and team and understand that is isnt always easy, or enjoyable, but we are here for the ride. If you want total football, go play FIFA.
|
|
|
Post by stevek192 on Nov 13, 2014 15:03:28 GMT
You are entitled to your opinion coastalgas as is anybody but how you go about saying it is open to debate. It maybe the poorest Gas squad you can remember but you seem to have failed to understand that we are in the Conference which is the lowest level we have been so cannot expect to have the buying power to have a much better squad than we have and more importantly quality players will be doing all they can to remain Football League players therefore it was far easier for previous Managers to get players in. I totally disagree with your view and personally found it more frustrating when we had a squad of players that had enough quality to stay up and yet we suffered two relegations. We are 9 POINTS behind the leaders with a game in hand and sit in a relatively good position to be at this time. Many would say we are in pretty well a perfect position by not having the pressure of leading the pack. We have tried the EXPERIENCED Manager road and where did it get us? For Gods sake give the bloke a chance.
|
|
|
Post by Gas Since 1957 on Nov 13, 2014 15:10:56 GMT
As my username implies I have supported the team for quite some time! There has always been an element of nastiness in some parts of the ground and certainly at Eastville a bunch of people used to congregate in the North Enclosure and yell abuse (and at the time we had a pretty decent team!). At Twerton the same group (maybe a different group but always moaning and shouting abuse) used to stand near the Popular Side toilets.
At The Mem I remember Holoway receiving abuse "you don't know what you're doing" being amongst the more polite form of what used to get shouted at him.
Personally I have no idea why people who I believe genuinely support the club want to yell abuse at the players, let alone try to board the team bus to have a go at them. The only form of "abuse" I show if I am disappointed is silence - I refuse to shout criticism at the team on the pitch no matter how badly they are playing - what can that possibly achieve?
There is a point though that the players need to rise above it and maybe concentrate more on the positive support - it isn't easy if fans are insulting you after 5 minutes and you are not allowed to say anything back, but it is an unfortunate fact of football that this will always be the case.
So the fans at the game my message is "put aside your frustration and disappointment at what has happened the last few years, get behind the team and especially get behind the strikers - try chanting "One Matty Taylor" etc. and see how he responds".
I have on several occasions told people in the West Enclosure to shut up when they shout abuse and explained to them what the players they are abusing are actually doing and found that generally these people are much quieter afterwards. It's hard to get involved in this way but if we all made it clear that abusing our own players is unacceptable it would soon be cut back.
|
|
Royal Blue
Michael Smith
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 296
|
Post by Royal Blue on Nov 13, 2014 15:17:15 GMT
As the majority have said, I am disgusted by what I have just read. The braindead idiots are giving the whole fan base a bad name and that is totally unfair because our support overall has been good this season.
Can people not see that we have a manager and playing squad that give 100% every week for this football club and currently have us in fourth place in the table, despite their weaknesses? It beggars belief that people are going to such lengths to moan when we are in a very strong position compared to the general view over the summer that we would struggle to make the top half of the table.
Yes, we need a striker. Yes, we could do with a bit more creativity. Yes, we should have beat Tranmere and Alfreton this week. However, is this a situation that warrants an idiot trying to get on the team coach after the game to lambast the players who clearly couldn't have given much more in the game? Of course it's not. It just highlights once again the reason why many players come here and are scared s***less to play home or away after one bad result (or in this case a b****y draw), because they will get hounded by a group of older morons on the terraces who demand more.
We all want us to be a Football League club and hope that we can get promoted this season but damn me this is an embarrassment. I completely understand people's frustrations when we don't win games we deserve to be winning and when we can see that the only thing preventing us from catching Barnet is a goalscorer, I just disagree wholeheartedly with laying the blame at the manager, who is working his backside off for us, and a group of players that desperately want to succeed. They are Conference players and people are expecting the world from them, despite the fact they have joined a massively underachieving club with fickle and impatient supporters who will hound them even when they are in the play-off places.
Unfortunately these idiots are going to orchestrate our downfall this year if we aren't careful. If we don't take advantage of our decent start this season there's no God-given right for us to repeat our feat next campaign - this may be our best chance for years to bounce back.
In regard to Darrell I feel so, so sorry for the bloke. I met him twice over the summer and on both occasions he was frank, open and completely happy to talk in detail with a fan who was clearly interested in what the plans were for our first term in the Conference. At the time I was angry, disappointed and absolutely devastated with what had happened and he completely understood that because he felt exactly the same way. He passionately explained his hopes and aspirations, told me the bare minimum I could expect from his side this season, offered up some home truths about ex-players that took us down and gave me his word he would do all he possibly could to take this proud football club back to where we belong - and believe me, he is proud to be manager of Bristol Rovers.
The unfair and disappointing thing is some people just didn't like DC's appointment and have been quick to moan about every decision he makes, every result we play out and every word he says. The fact someone put posters up demanding he was sacked just a couple of weeks into the season is so ridiculously absurd that I struggle to believe it. Nothing should surprise me any more with some of our fans though.
I hope DC and the team recognise the vast majority of supporters are not represented by the idiots that grab the headlines. Most of us are 100% behind you and sincerely hope you are able to come through these distractions to continue the good job you are currently doing.
|
|
GasMacc1
Les Bradd
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,423
|
Post by GasMacc1 on Nov 13, 2014 15:36:28 GMT
I am 52 years old. Yesterday, for the first time in my life, I sent a letter to a professional footballer. The reason? I was so disgusted by the vitriol which one person was directing at the Rovers players at the end of the game at Alfreton.
The Rovers players were, as is the usual protocol, applauding the away fans at the end of the game. Most of the away fans were either also applauding, or just trooping out silently. I did observe about four or five, maybe a couple more, fans yelling at the players. I couldn't hear what was being shouted, but you didn't need to be a psychologist to read their body language.
The player who was closest to the angriest away fan was incensed for a split-second and thought about moving towards the fan. With a quiet word from a team-mate, he thought better of it and immediately turned away.
I wanted to reassure the player in question that the actions of those few fans were not representative of the views of the majority. I felt so strongly that I sent the letter.
|
|
|
Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Nov 13, 2014 15:37:22 GMT
Could he be looking for an excuse to walk away? Just a thought.
|
|
|
Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 13, 2014 15:50:53 GMT
Disgusted but not surprised to learn this one bit. The anger irrationality and negativity represented on both forums by some mirrors these actions. Will get shot down by this I'm sure but there are posters on the forums still calling for DCs head and looking for any ammunition to undermine the board and team. Not saying for one minute we shouldn't all be disappointed and angry by the decline of our club over the last 5 years but some of the comments are totally out of order IMHO It's nothing to do with forums. There are people whining on Chelsea forums. The best thing about forums is that if someone says something ridiculous, there's always half a dozen people queuing up to put them right. You don't really get that in real life, so much.
|
|
|
Post by Surrey Gas on Nov 13, 2014 16:04:37 GMT
Not sure I understand DC's complaints. Surely he realises that the vocal few aren't representative of the majority of the 315 Gasheads that made the trip to Alfreton and the 1000+ fans that have made it to so many games this season to cheer them on? Most of us leave the ground rightly disappointed but we do not hurl abuse at the players/manager - yes we are disappointed but we turn up every week and give them fantastic backing so I dont understand why the minority of negative fans outweigh the majority of us fans who give fantastic support to the players.
DC has to realise that most of the 315 fans on Tuesday didnt hurl abuse at the players - we just left quietly disappointed and hoping that DC can get us the striker we need which will silence the minority of idiots and reward the majority of die hard fans who have given incredible support this season.
|
|
|
Post by lympstonegas on Nov 13, 2014 16:08:45 GMT
Disgusted but not surprised to learn this one bit. The anger irrationality and negativity represented on both forums by some mirrors these actions. Will get shot down by this I'm sure but there are posters on the forums still calling for DCs head and looking for any ammunition to undermine the board and team. Not saying for one minute we shouldn't all be disappointed and angry by the decline of our club over the last 5 years but some of the comments are totally out of order IMHO It's nothing to do with forums. There are people whining on Chelsea forums. The best thing about forums is that if someone says something ridiculous, there's always half a dozen people queuing up to put them right. You don't really get that in real life, so much. Hear what you say and agree to some degree only. On some topics people have challenged others on the forums - zebroskis treatment after he scored at the Mem for example but the minority involved were still supported by a minority on the forum .., hence my statement that the current abuse of DC and players during games is mirrored on here to a degree. In my mind the fact that people have responded by saying they can understand the current reported behaviour and not condoning it fullstop are indeed supporting it.
|
|
gasfred
Joined: July 2014
Posts: 75
|
Post by gasfred on Nov 13, 2014 16:10:46 GMT
Could be worse we could have had 300 Wealsdon raiders at Alferton!
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 16:20:00 GMT
Could be worse we could have had 300 Wealsdon raiders at Alferton! Why? You wansum? *Wealdstone.
|
|
brizzle
Lindsay Parsons
No Buy . . . No Sell!
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,293
|
Post by brizzle on Nov 13, 2014 16:21:30 GMT
As my username implies I have supported the team for quite some time! There has always been an element of nastiness in some parts of the ground and certainly at Eastville a bunch of people used to congregate in the North Enclosure and yell abuse (and at the time we had a pretty decent team!). At Twerton the same group (maybe a different group but always moaning and shouting abuse) used to stand near the Popular Side toilets. At The Mem I remember Holoway receiving abuse "you don't know what you're doing" being amongst the more polite form of what used to get shouted at him. Personally I have no idea why people who I believe genuinely support the club want to yell abuse at the players, let alone try to board the team bus to have a go at them. The only form of "abuse" I show if I am disappointed is silence - I refuse to shout criticism at the team on the pitch no matter how badly they are playing - what can that possibly achieve? There is a point though that the players need to rise above it and maybe concentrate more on the positive support - it isn't easy if fans are insulting you after 5 minutes and you are not allowed to say anything back, but it is an unfortunate fact of football that this will always be the case. So the fans at the game my message is "put aside your frustration and disappointment at what has happened the last few years, get behind the team and especially get behind the strikers - try chanting "One Matty Taylor" etc. and see how he responds". I have on several occasions told people in the West Enclosure to shut up when they shout abuse and explained to them what the players they are abusing are actually doing and found that generally these people are much quieter afterwards. It's hard to get involved in this way but if we all made it clear that abusing our own players is unacceptable it would soon be cut back. Hi Gas Since 1957, and congratulations to you on another excellent post. Like you I have also had the pleasure of supporting BRFC since 1957, so our paths must have run on quite parallel lines, eh? Spooky that. But the reason that I am replying is to say that in my experience there was little or no ''nastiness'' at either Eastville or Twerton. And most certainly not the ''nastiness'' that we have all seen in society in recent years, and not only in football grounds neither, so it's possibly a change in cultural and/or social behaviour. Mind you the only part of Eastville that I didn't frequent was the North Stand and Enclosure, so perhaps I missed it eh? The one roar that I do remember was that side of the ground chanting H-a-r-o-l-d H-a-r-o-l-d, to encourage Harold Jarman . . . which it did, as you well know. In fact standing at the Tote End it was often the case that a different type of chant went up from the North side of the ground, but they were vocal when they put their minds to it, a bit more refined than the run-of-the-mill hobbledehoy's who got on the Tote. In all of the time that I went to Eastville (and I missed very few games) I can only ever recall one bout of slow hand-clapping breaking out, and then there was the infamous occasions when the chant when round the ground ''Send Bert Tann To Vietnam,'' but I always took that as good-natured humour. I would go so far as to say that I found Eastville to be a warm and welcoming place, where you could mix with your friends, or make a new one out of the bloke standing nearby to you. As for Twerton, I can only recall one occasion when a chap standing near to me shouted out his displeasure over something or other. He was told forcefully by several other supporters to be quiet and support the team. It worked by the way. Mind you I have been called a rose-tinter in the past, but as I'm uncertain whether that's a compliment or not I'll allow that one to pass. But let's be honest, when you have a group of individuals brought together, and totalling anywhere between 5,000-8,000 people, all with different values and outlooks there is almost always likely to be dissent when things are not going to plan. But it is tough at the moment because, despite our League position the supporters aren't happy. In my opinion they are unhappy about two things, firstly our inability to score goals, which is a fundamental to a successful football team, and secondly the quality of the football that is on display. Now those two statements could start a whole pack of dogs running, so it's probably best left that when the team relaxes and is strengthened in one or two areas, then they will play more attractively, and people will be happier.
|
|