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Post by Wilkimania on Nov 6, 2014 10:02:25 GMT
Not quite Tubbs or Hughes BREAKING: Bristol Rovers complete the signing of Fulham midfielder Lyle Della-Verde on one month loan deal.
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Post by The Gas on Nov 6, 2014 10:02:45 GMT
I'm not Steve Landsdown I can't just avoid paying tax. Get off your hobby horse.
Steve Lansdown pays all the taxes he has to pay where he lives, his main saving is on Inheritance tax which is not applicable in the Channel Islands.
I lived there for five years, do you consider me a tax avoider? I paid 20p in the £ instead of 25p so must have cost the UK an absolute fortune.
Cue accusations I am a sh*thead. I have supported the Gas for 55+ years
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 10:21:36 GMT
I'm not Steve Landsdown I can't just avoid paying tax. Get off your hobby horse.
Steve Lansdown pays all the taxes he has to pay where he lives, his main saving is on Inheritance tax which is not applicable in the Channel Islands.
I lived there for five years, do you consider me a tax avoider? I paid 20p in the £ instead of 25p so must have cost the UK an absolute fortune.
Cue accusations I am a sh*thead. I have supported the Gas for 55+ years
Do you actively avoid spending time in the UK to avoid tax like Steve does?
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Post by The Gas on Nov 6, 2014 10:28:20 GMT
Get off your hobby horse.
Steve Lansdown pays all the taxes he has to pay where he lives, his main saving is on Inheritance tax which is not applicable in the Channel Islands.
I lived there for five years, do you consider me a tax avoider? I paid 20p in the £ instead of 25p so must have cost the UK an absolute fortune.
Cue accusations I am a sh*thead. I have supported the Gas for 55+ years
Do you actively avoid spending time in the UK to avoid tax like Steve does? Yes, whilst I was in the Channel Islands, so what's your point?
Has he done anything wrong? Suggest you start on Amazon, Dyson etc etc who all legally arrange their finances to provide prices their customers appreciate. I am a regular user of Amazon and no end of "righteous" individuals will make me shop elsewhere
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 6, 2014 10:32:33 GMT
Wiki.....
Causing death by dangerous driving conviction[edit] On 23 November 2003, near his home in the Warwickshire village of Meriden, West Midlands, Hughes lost control of his Mercedes CL55 AMG[127] and went onto the wrong side of the road before colliding with a Renault Scénic.[128] A passenger in the Renault, Douglas Graham, was killed in the incident, whilst his wife Maureen and the driver Albert Frisby were severely injured.[128] Hughes and passenger Adrian Smith left the scene, before turning themselves in to the police 36 hours later.[128] He was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving.[129] He denied the charge,[130] though later pleaded Guilty to charges of failing to stop and failing to report an accident.[131] During his trial at Coventry Crown Court, Hughes was accused of driving too fast in wet conditions and was described as driving "like a madman".[132] He claimed the brakes on his car had locked, though tests showed that the brakes were in perfect working order and had technology installed to prevent the driver from losing control.[133] When asked where he had been in the 36 hours after leaving the scene of the incident Hughes said that "I would rather not say, really", though later admitted he had travelled 20 miles to Smethwick.[134] Prosecutor Melbourne Inman QC told the court Hughes had fled the scene to dodge a breath test.[135] On 9 August 2004, Hughes was found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving, and was sentenced to six years imprisonment.[128] Frisby said that the sentence was not long enough.[136] Hughes lodged an appeal against the sentence, but not the conviction.[137] In January 2005, his appeal for his sentence to be reduced was refused.[138] He served his time in Category C prisons.[139] During his time in HM Prison Featherstone he played in the Staffordshire County Senior League for the prison football team.[140] He also helped to organise a charity football match which raised £5,000 for a children's hospice.[141] He was released in August 2007, three years into his six-year sentence.[142]
"After today I do not intend to discuss or make comment about the events which led to my imprisonment. I have made this decision, not out of protection for myself, but with regard to the privacy and respect for the families involved. I made dreadful mistakes and decisions that will live with me for the rest of my life. It also greatly affected my immediate family, including my wife and children, and I will never forgive myself for this." —Hughes issued a public apology upon his release from prison, though Albert Frisby stated that "He has no remorse. To me he is very arrogant and ignorant. I've just got no time for the fellow."[143] Assault conviction[edit] On 3 December 2011, Hughes was arrested and bailed on charges of sexual assault after an incident in Croydon.[144][145] He was then charged with the offence on 30 January 2012.[146] In May 2012 Hughes was found guilty of common assault and fined £500, but the charge of sexual assault was dropped.[147]
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 10:36:20 GMT
Do you actively avoid spending time in the UK to avoid tax like Steve does? Yes, whilst I was in the Channel Islands, so what's your point?
Has he done anything wrong? Suggest you start on Amazon, Dyson etc etc who all legally arrange their finances to provide prices their customers appreciate. I am a regular user of Amazon and no end of "righteous" individuals will make me shop elsewhere
You can add Vodafone to that list of slimey disgraces.
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Post by LJG on Nov 6, 2014 10:41:22 GMT
Get off your hobby horse.
Steve Lansdown pays all the taxes he has to pay where he lives, his main saving is on Inheritance tax which is not applicable in the Channel Islands.
I lived there for five years, do you consider me a tax avoider? I paid 20p in the £ instead of 25p so must have cost the UK an absolute fortune.
Cue accusations I am a sh*thead. I have supported the Gas for 55+ years
Do you actively avoid spending time in the UK to avoid tax like Steve does? I've never understood this argument. The rules on residence for tax purposes are clearly laid out in the 2013 Finance Act. Lansdown follows the rules so as to be non-resident. What's the difference between that and making a Statutory Off Road Notice to avoid paying Road Tax on your car? If you stick to the rules and don't drive it - you don't pay the tax. If you're not resident under the residency test - you don't pay the tax. People from all over the world avoid spending more than 91 days in the UK so as to not be deemed resident for tax purposes. French people, Australian people, Nigerians, Russians ... why is Lansdown different? If you're about to say "Because he has a business here" - his business is incorporated and thus pays corporation tax. I think filling the gap in midfield with Della-Verde is a great move by DC and at least as vital as getting a goal scorer in - our forwards will have a better return with more service from the centre.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 10:48:02 GMT
Do you actively avoid spending time in the UK to avoid tax like Steve does? I've never understood this argument. The rules on residence for tax purposes are clearly laid out in the 2013 Finance Act. Lansdown follows the rules so as to be non-resident. What's the difference between that and making a Statutory Off Road Notice to avoid paying Road Tax on your car? If you stick to the rules and don't drive it - you don't pay the tax. If you're not resident under the residency test - you don't pay the tax. People from all over the world avoid spending more than 91 days in the UK so as to not be deemed resident for tax purposes. French people, Australian people, Nigerians, Russians ... why is Lansdown different? If you're about to say "Because he has a business here" - his business is incorporated and thus pays corporation tax. JK Rowling summed it up perfectly for me... "I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles. A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism. On the available evidence, I suspect that it is Lord Ashcroft’s idea of being a mug."
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Post by LJG on Nov 6, 2014 10:57:48 GMT
I've never understood this argument. The rules on residence for tax purposes are clearly laid out in the 2013 Finance Act. Lansdown follows the rules so as to be non-resident. What's the difference between that and making a Statutory Off Road Notice to avoid paying Road Tax on your car? If you stick to the rules and don't drive it - you don't pay the tax. If you're not resident under the residency test - you don't pay the tax. People from all over the world avoid spending more than 91 days in the UK so as to not be deemed resident for tax purposes. French people, Australian people, Nigerians, Russians ... why is Lansdown different? If you're about to say "Because he has a business here" - his business is incorporated and thus pays corporation tax. JK Rowling summed it up perfectly for me... "I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles. A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism. On the available evidence, I suspect that it is Lord Ashcroft’s idea of being a mug." J K Rowling doesn't employ 850 people in the UK at a business with net earnings of £162,000,000 on which Corporation Tax will be paid, not to mention employees Income Tax, Employer's and Employee's National Insurance Contributions. Not only that but it's widely acknowledged, even tacitly by herself, that J K Rowling's former claims of penury are a nonsense (How is it she claims to have been penniless but writing the first Harry Potter during train travel and at airports?). I'd like to see Brunt come back in with Ellis up front and see how Della-Verde works in behind those two - although neither really offer a "fox in the box" option.
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Post by Nobbygas on Nov 6, 2014 10:59:42 GMT
Blimey, this would have gone down well in the old Serious Forum.
How many people on here, when traveling outside the EU, take advantage of Duty Free Goods? It's no different to what Landsdowne, Google, Dyson etc etc are doing, just the scale....just following the rules that are made by our politicians.
Hughes.....Just a big fat NO.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 11:00:59 GMT
JK Rowling summed it up perfectly for me... "I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles. A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism. On the available evidence, I suspect that it is Lord Ashcroft’s idea of being a mug." J K Rowling doesn't employ 850 people in the UK at a business with net earnings of £162,000,000 on which Corporation Tax will be paid, not to mention employees Income Tax, Employer's and Employee's National Insurance Contributions. Not only that but it's widely acknowledged, even tacitly by herself, that J K Rowling's former claims of penury are a nonsense (How is it she claims to have been penniless but writing the first Harry Potter during train travel and at airports?). I'd like to see Brunt come back in with Ellis up front and see how Della-Verde works in behind those two - although neither really offer a "fox in the box" option. So Steve lets his minions pay his taxes for him? Nice bloke. Balanta and Della-Verde could cause havoc at this level.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 6, 2014 11:04:40 GMT
Blimey, this would have gone down well in the old Serious Forum. How many people on here, when traveling outside the EU, take advantage of Duty Free Goods? It's no different to what Landsdowne, Google, Dyson etc etc are doing, just the scale....just following the rules that are made by our politicians. Hughes.....Just a big fat NO. Duty Free goods abroad are generally more expensive than you can buy in UK shops so never bother. We have enough issues at the moment without getting Hughes in. Many would want to have Pipe back next. And yes I am the forgiving type but at the moment we have enough reputational issues.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Nov 6, 2014 11:10:10 GMT
Tubbs was instrumental in Salisbury's rise to the Conference and did well at Crawley. He'd be a good signing.
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Post by LJG on Nov 6, 2014 11:10:33 GMT
J K Rowling doesn't employ 850 people in the UK at a business with net earnings of £162,000,000 on which Corporation Tax will be paid, not to mention employees Income Tax, Employer's and Employee's National Insurance Contributions. Not only that but it's widely acknowledged, even tacitly by herself, that J K Rowling's former claims of penury are a nonsense (How is it she claims to have been penniless but writing the first Harry Potter during train travel and at airports?). I'd like to see Brunt come back in with Ellis up front and see how Della-Verde works in behind those two - although neither really offer a "fox in the box" option. So Steve lets his minions pay his taxes for him? Nice bloke. Balanta and Della-Verde could cause havoc at this level. The clue is in the word "Employer's". But you're right, I'd rather he forked over 45% of his few million a year for George Osborne to send troops to Syria rather than re-invest it in the growth of his business that will generate 30% on £162,000,000 per year plus 13.8% (payable by the employer) on everything they pay employees, plus providing jobs for 850 people who will also pay tax who will spend their money in local bars and clubs and shops and services who will also pay tax who also have employees who pay tax who spend their money at clubs and bars and shops and services who will also pay tax ... like some sort of economic cycle ... wish they had a name for that. I don't believe Balanta exists.
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Post by Nobbygas on Nov 6, 2014 11:14:36 GMT
Balanta.....Santa.......it does have a certain ring about it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 11:19:55 GMT
So Steve lets his minions pay his taxes for him? Nice bloke. Balanta and Della-Verde could cause havoc at this level. The clue is in the word "Employer's". But you're right, I'd rather he forked over 45% of his few million a year for George Osborne to send troops to Syria rather than re-invest it in the growth of his business that will generate 30% on £162,000,000 per year plus 13.8% (payable by the employer) on everything they pay employees, plus providing jobs for 850 people who will also pay tax who will spend their money in local bars and clubs and shops and services who will also pay tax who also have employees who pay tax who spend their money at clubs and bars and shops and services who will also pay tax ... like some sort of economic cycle ... wish they had a name for that. I don't believe Balanta exists. So you think if he wasn't paying his 45% his business would go tits up? That's an astonishingly bonkers claim. Angelo does exist and he can walk on ceilings.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 11:24:27 GMT
God forbid anyone making a mistake!!
For what it's worth I don't agree at all with what Hughes did but he's the type of player we've been missing up front. As long as he's giving his all for the cause I'll give him a chance.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Nov 6, 2014 11:26:05 GMT
No attendance from me if Hughes signed on the dotted line! Would be a shame, I've been hugely enjoying my home and away trips this season.
A part of me hopes the club would put a blocker on any such move though, given how they handled Pipe as soon as it was clear he was a guilty man.
We will see.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Nov 6, 2014 11:29:54 GMT
Do you actively avoid spending time in the UK to avoid tax like Steve does? Yes, whilst I was in the Channel Islands, so what's your point?
Has he done anything wrong? Suggest you start on Amazon, Dyson etc etc who all legally arrange their finances to provide prices their customers appreciate. I am a regular user of Amazon and no end of "righteous" individuals will make me shop elsewhere
Sounds like you might have a few bob. Care to invest in a new venture in South Gloucestershire?
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Post by LJG on Nov 6, 2014 11:30:46 GMT
The clue is in the word "Employer's". But you're right, I'd rather he forked over 45% of his few million a year for George Osborne to send troops to Syria rather than re-invest it in the growth of his business that will generate 30% on £162,000,000 per year plus 13.8% (payable by the employer) on everything they pay employees, plus providing jobs for 850 people who will also pay tax who will spend their money in local bars and clubs and shops and services who will also pay tax who also have employees who pay tax who spend their money at clubs and bars and shops and services who will also pay tax ... like some sort of economic cycle ... wish they had a name for that. I don't believe Balanta exists. So you think if he wasn't paying his 45% his business would go tits up? That's an astonishingly bonkers claim. Angelo does exist and he can walk on ceilings. "re-invest it in the growth of his business" - meaning he could have MORE employees and be generating MORE income to pay MORE Corporation Tax and MORE Employer's NIC and have MORE people spend MORE money to businesses who have employees who could grow to generate MORE income to pay MORE tax to employ MORE employees who would etc etc - I still wish they'd invent a name for all that. I want to see us really shored up in the middle. Be nice to see D-V solid in the centre with some really good distribution - it could set us alight.
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