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Post by Big Dave on Oct 21, 2014 18:40:29 GMT
"The spokesman added: "The decision to prioritise the case simply brings forward the starting point of the investigations to decide whether or not there may be grounds for us to refer the case to the Court of Appeal. "It does not in any way represent a judgment by the commission as to the merits of the case or its chances of being referred." He's bound to do this to try and clear his name. Anyone with money would do exactly the same thing. Unless any new evidence has come to light I wouldn't have thought he has a leg to stand on. Disagree. He'll appeal to clear his name because the 'facts' that both the prosecution and defence agree on suggest it was't rape. And I think he'll win, not because of his 'standing' or 'celebrity' status, but simply because the facts suggest he's not guilty of rape. |
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Post by Bristol Rovers on Oct 21, 2014 19:40:13 GMT
"The spokesman added: "The decision to prioritise the case simply brings forward the starting point of the investigations to decide whether or not there may be grounds for us to refer the case to the Court of Appeal. "It does not in any way represent a judgment by the commission as to the merits of the case or its chances of being referred." He's bound to do this to try and clear his name. Anyone with money would do exactly the same thing. Unless any new evidence has come to light I wouldn't have thought he has a leg to stand on. Disagree. He'll appeal to clear his name because the 'facts' that both the prosecution and defence agree on suggest it was't rape. And I think he'll win, not because of his 'standing' or 'celebrity' status, but simply because the facts suggest he's not guilty of rape. What's different now than what was at the trial? |
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Post by zfc on Oct 21, 2014 20:07:41 GMT
Does anyone on here believe Mike Tyson raped Desiree Washington even though he was convicted of the offence?
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Post by tbonegas on Oct 21, 2014 21:57:16 GMT
Does anyone on here believe Mike Tyson raped Desiree Washington even though he was convicted of the offence? This is a boxing related question There is a seperate section for other sports. Surely you know that. Mr Know All. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Oct 21, 2014 23:53:05 GMT
an utterly routine review which has been fast tracked due to media attention, and has been fast tracked within the current rules. reviews of his conviction have already been made. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Oct 21, 2014 23:56:08 GMT
What else does one call someone convicted of rape? It's for the justice system to decide if what he did was rape, and until his strangely fast-tracked appeal to the CCRC decides otherwise, the conviction stands. We're veering into Judy Finnegan territory here, where some rapes are rapes and some aren't somehow. It'll be very interesting to see how that appeal goes. the same as the other reviews maybe? how many times does this get looked at, at the request of a man with a lot of money. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Oct 22, 2014 0:02:16 GMT
I'd sign him - could be a good opportunity for him to get match fit for a few months and for the media storm to subside before he rejoins Sheff Utd. Let's not forget we signed Clayton Mcdonald after this incident occurred. McDonald was cleared by a jury on 20 April 2012 after hearing the evidence, and played for Rovers in 2013. Evans was found guilty by a jury after hearing the evidence. is that difficult to understand? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 1:08:55 GMT
Now I'm not for one moment suggesting we're rumoured to sign him or anything, was just wondering what people thoughts were if we did sign him given our striker problems. I think he'd be brilliant at this level, I remember the case although convicted seemed a little suspect. Even though what are people's views if we gave him a chance? Thoughts..... a great subject for a post by you and some very intelligent debate on a difficult subject by many posters on here,,,his problem is he hasnt admitted guilt and shown remorse because he dosnt think hes guilty, will any cub sign him before his appeal? if he loses will he say sorry ? very difficult subject,,should we sign him? we could offer him a game until his appeal but the media attention would be intense,,we wont sign him though will we? |
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Post by falsenumber9 on Oct 22, 2014 16:45:27 GMT
I'd sign him - could be a good opportunity for him to get match fit for a few months and for the media storm to subside before he rejoins Sheff Utd. Let's not forget we signed Clayton Mcdonald after this incident occurred. McDonald was cleared by a jury on 20 April 2012 after hearing the evidence, and played for Rovers in 2013. Evans was found guilty by a jury after hearing the evidence. is that difficult to understand? Massively. Thanks for helping me out with that x |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 17:19:09 GMT
Good to see the rapist is sorry to pretty much everyone bar his victim.
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Post by zfc on Oct 22, 2014 17:48:54 GMT
If he didn`t rape her then why should he say sorry to her? Will she apologise to him if he is cleared?
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Post by tbonegas on Oct 22, 2014 18:21:15 GMT
If he didn`t rape her then why should he say sorry to her? Will she apologise to him if he is cleared? Apologies are not easy, are they Mr Know All? |
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Post by dinsdale on Oct 22, 2014 19:41:54 GMT
I'm guessing playing international away games is the least of his concerns at present! For a rapist he doesn't seem to have a care in the world. Subhuman man. As he is on licence supervised by the national probation service For the next 2.5 years he is not allowed to go abroad so no chance of international football. Also any employment has to be agreed by his probation officer. As his offence occured off the back of his footballer lifestyle i would assume the probation officer would not be keen for this to happen. |
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Post by dinsdale on Oct 22, 2014 19:45:20 GMT
Now I'm not for one moment suggesting we're rumoured to sign him or anything, was just wondering what people thoughts were if we did sign him given our striker problems. I think he'd be brilliant at this level, I remember the case although convicted seemed a little suspect. Even though what are people's views if we gave him a chance? Thoughts..... Most men that commit this type of rape dont belive they are guilty because they believe the woman consented. I think Ched believes he is innocenr and the victim believes she was raped. |
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Post by dagnogo on Oct 22, 2014 20:33:37 GMT
If he didn`t rape her then why should he say sorry to her? Will she apologise to him if he is cleared? She might be a bit busy moving house again having had to change her identity for a 2nd time thanks to threats from an idiotic mob, fuelled in no small part by Evans' deluded girlfriend and her very wealthy father. It's worth remembering that the CPS do the prosecuting, she just reported it. |
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Post by Two Headed Sex Beast on Oct 22, 2014 21:14:12 GMT
1. Quick point for those who don't believe he's guilty - it was proven beyond all reasonable doubt. By all means, if he gets it overturned, which he has failed to do twice already, he can protest his innocence, but as it stands, he's a rapist. 2. He's every right to play again. But I can understand how disgraceful it looks to those inside and outside the game that a rapist can walk into his old job like nothing happened. 3. The difference between him and McCormick or Hughes is his total lack of remorse. 4. If Sheffield United signed him, they can quite rightly say that if they didn't, a rival would have. If the FA want to bring in a code of conduct that bans sex offenders from the pro game, that's for them to decide. 5. As things stand he's a convicted rapist with no signs of remorse - I wouldn't want him in the Quarters and if I were Welsh I wouldn't want him in the national side either. Lee Hughes has shown remorse? I have seen him on three different occassions at the Cheltenham Festival and I have never met a bigger ****. |
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Post by dagnogo on Oct 23, 2014 6:10:47 GMT
He has publicly apologised at least. Also, after signing for Oldham, he went to local colleges and did talks on drink driving etc. He may have done that just to make his own life easier, but he did do it.
Evans didn't mention his victim yesterday. Nor did he ask his moronic fans to stop harassing and exposing the new identity of his victim.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Oct 23, 2014 9:19:25 GMT
He has publicly apologised at least. Also, after signing for Oldham, he went to local colleges and did talks on drink driving etc. He may have done that just to make his own life easier, but he did do it. Evans didn't mention his victim yesterday. Nor did he ask his moronic fans to stop harassing and exposing the new identity of his victim. Almost like he wants everyone to feel sorry him & to make the girl he raped even more of a victim. Not even a reference to the girl, let alone an apology. Scumbagggggg. |
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Post by gashead1979 on Oct 23, 2014 11:18:49 GMT
He has publicly apologised at least. Also, after signing for Oldham, he went to local colleges and did talks on drink driving etc. He may have done that just to make his own life easier, but he did do it. Evans didn't mention his victim yesterday. Nor did he ask his moronic fans to stop harassing and exposing the new identity of his victim. Why would he apologise when he is still pleading innocence? Would I have him at Rovers, yes I would as he would improve it. I'm sick of other clubs benefitting, sometimes at our expense. On a side note, those 150,000 petition signers should be a lot safer with him on a football pitch rather than working for British Gas coming into your home to sort out the boiler? |
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 23, 2014 11:47:30 GMT
She says she can't remember what happened, not that she didn't give consent. Does that mean that a man can't pull a women in a club anymore, in case they regret it the next day or can't remember? It's a hard one to call, if he is guilty of rape, thousands of men and women are every weekend. Who hasn't got drunk in there youth and woke up the next day not remembering everything?
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