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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 22:00:07 GMT
Well, very sadly this thread proves football has a long way to go to eradicate racism.
It's inexcusable - end of.
Shocked by some of the replies on here tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 22:00:25 GMT
Here we go again. Someone who wants a bit of attention but this time with a bloody Yeovil fan fuelling the flames. I give in. Hardly fuelling the flames, is it? I only linked the tweets, saves everyone else doing it. If I'd brought the subject up, then yes maybe but seeing as one of your own did, my contribution isn't inflammatory. Stop being so touchy. Ok fingers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 22:01:47 GMT
His feelings must be hurt really badly, so hunting the culprit down and putting him in the dock for sentencing is the right solutions. Hurt feelings = legal action. I'll say it again Hurt feelings = legal action Please come to your senses and get some level of proportionality. It's ugly, its others nice. It's still just words. Get a grip and stop having your opinions formed by the telly for God's sake. There's real racism out there which genuinely IS appalling. You either ban all forms of abuse, or none at all. Involving race only became an issue once the authorities realised multiculturalism hasn't worked and they need to keep a lid on it. It's their issue, not ours. your clearly a blatant racist,youve proved it beyond all doubt in your posts on this thread
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 22:02:32 GMT
Well, very sadly this thread proves football has a long way to go to eradicate racism. It's inexcusable - end of. Shocked by some of the replies on here tonight. Absolutely. Disgusting apologia for racist abuse.
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Oct 7, 2014 22:05:53 GMT
How would you react if Matt Harold carried on like that for a "ginger twat" comment? Stopping the game, asking for others to shame the culprit?
I'm not saying racist chants are good, or apologising for them. I'm saying most of the "shocked and appalled" commenters need to think this through, without the weight of social pressure to think a certain way. Why should Mr Browns feelings be protected and not Mr Harold ?
Chances are you would think Matt Harrold carrying on like that was fairly over the top and a bit primadonna-like.
I personally will NOT bow my reason to social pressure.
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Post by gass on Oct 7, 2014 22:06:27 GMT
Unfortunately, I fear it's attitudes like this that mean that nothing will ever get sorted. Isn't one person shouting one too many? The more we accept it, the less is going to happen to deal with the problem? The problem is primarily fiction. The day a ginger keeper can eject people for racism is the day I'll buy its about equality and not about self hating liberals with cowardly views. People need to grow up, its just words. If your arguing for arresting folk for words, please piss off to Nazi Germany or soviet east Germany where you belong. Authoritarians are authoritarians whether it's Jews, black people or white people having their feeling specially protected by law. Unfortunately the media have a grip on this and have pulled in the "punish him severely" mob on a different side. It's ironic that the anti racists are even more despotic and nasty than racists these days. Enjoy your pious feeling of righteous anger. Can someone please ban this idiot?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 22:08:09 GMT
Let me firstly make the point that this is a bit of guesswork, as I didn't hear/see anything myself. Obviously the Dartford goalkeeper got pretty upset over an incident in the second half, resulting of a fan being ejected from the Blackthorn End. I'm guessing that nothing was thrown, as it would have been picked up, and shown to an official. So the only other conclusion that I can come up with is that Brown was the victim of racist abuse. Let me be the first to say that there is no place for racist abuse of any kind at BRFC, and anyone involved should be ashamed of themselves, if this is indeed the case. Can anyone clarify the incident? As it turned out you made an educated guess but you could so easily have started some more serious issues and been totally wrong. It really isn't a topic to do guesswork on imo. Lets hope the person ejected is banned for a long time,the bad press is getting worse not better.
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Post by ricardo on Oct 7, 2014 22:09:27 GMT
The problem is primarily fiction. The day a ginger keeper can eject people for racism is the day I'll buy its about equality and not about self hating liberals with cowardly views. People need to grow up, its just words. If your arguing for arresting folk for words, please piss off to Nazi Germany or soviet east Germany where you belong. Authoritarians are authoritarians whether it's Jews, black people or white people having their feeling specially protected by law. Unfortunately the media have a grip on this and have pulled in the "punish him severely" mob on a different side. It's ironic that the anti racists are even more despotic and nasty than racists these days. Enjoy your pious feeling of righteous anger. Racism is a fiction? I'm ginger and I was stood at AFC Wimbledon last season as the linesman got untold amounts of flak and abuse based on his hair colour. I didn't care much. Why? Because now and historically political and systemic prejudice toward gingers doesn't exist. it doesn't define my history (my skin colour does) or my chances of success in life. If racism was expressed toward a black linesman I would have had to respond or leave the ground. It looks like a black player has come to Rovers and had his race called out as a reason for abuse by a member of our crowd. TBH I'd rather we lost than hear that. See it's not just words - it a reflects a deeper attitude and hate and that's why players respond in that way. Or should they just take it like they were told to in the 80s? Agreed, I was blessed with Ginger hair and to compare someone getting stick over their hair colour to their race is at best Moronic. <script type="text/javascript" src="safari-extension://com.ebay.safari.myebaymanager-QYHMMGCMJR/6645cc9f/background/helpers/prefilterHelper.js"></script>
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Post by pirate on Oct 7, 2014 22:11:36 GMT
How would you react if Matt Harold carried on like that for a "ginger twat" comment? Stopping the game, asking for others to shame the culprit? I'm not saying racist chants are good, or apologising for them. I'm saying most of the "shocked and appalled" commenters need to think this through, without the weight of social pressure to think a certain way. Why should Mr Browns feelings be protected and not Mr Harold ?Chances are you would think Matt Harrold carrying on like that was fairly over the top and a bit primadonna-like. I personally will NOT bow my reason to social pressure. Because being ginger isn't a race...?
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Post by ricardo on Oct 7, 2014 22:14:05 GMT
How would you react if Matt Harold carried on like that for a "ginger twat" comment? Stopping the game, asking for others to shame the culprit? I'm not saying racist chants are good, or apologising for them. I'm saying most of the "shocked and appalled" commenters need to think this through, without the weight of social pressure to think a certain way. Why should Mr Browns feelings be protected and not Mr Harold ? Chances are you would think Matt Harrold carrying on like that was fairly over the top and a bit primadonna-like. I personally will NOT bow my reason to social pressure. Please stop, you are making a fool of yourself. <script type="text/javascript" src="safari-extension://com.ebay.safari.myebaymanager-QYHMMGCMJR/6645cc9f/background/helpers/prefilterHelper.js"></script>
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 7, 2014 22:16:44 GMT
Even though it's pretty obvious it's wrong to racially abuse anyone - we can all agree on that - can we ask that some of the Blackthorn End be banned for singing sheep sh*ggers to Wrexham fans some weeks ago?
The anti welsh sentiment doesn't seem as poignant as tonight's episode, yet is still a slur based on someone's race nevertheless.
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Post by gasgomarchingin on Oct 7, 2014 22:19:59 GMT
Yawn I can't help but feel that the worlds gone a bit mad. You can shout, swear, call some ugly/fat/welsh or french this or that. Yet one person in a crowd shouts a word and the GK stops the match to whine to the referee. Yes, there is no place for it, but doesn't it all get a bit out of proportion? It's hardly the days of Rosa Parks, or national front outside of stadiums and bananas on the pitch. I agree but unfortunately this is not a politically correct opinion.
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Post by oviedista on Oct 7, 2014 22:24:46 GMT
Yawn I can't help but feel that the worlds gone a bit mad. You can shout, swear, call some ugly/fat/welsh or french this or that. Yet one person in a crowd shouts a word and the GK stops the match to whine to the referee. Yes, there is no place for it, but doesn't it all get a bit out of proportion? It's hardly the days of Rosa Parks, or national front outside of stadiums and bananas on the pitch. I agree but unfortunately this is not a politically correct opinion. It's not perfect but no it's not those days - and that's exactly why it shouldn't be tolerated.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 22:43:54 GMT
Careful everyone, it took less then 5 minutes for the obsessed s**theads to jump on this one!
The stupid idiot who shouted this puts even more embarrassment on our club, Shame on you tosspot!
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Oct 7, 2014 22:57:41 GMT
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Post by james83 on Oct 7, 2014 22:57:41 GMT
Rovers fans racist? Doubt that very much after having most probably our best players in the clubs history ( on average) names like, Carl Saunders, Devon White, hayels Roberts, Ellington...... The list goes on!!! One think that stands out with our club is we have always produced top black players at this football club who have made us millions so sorry no I don't think we would go that low to abuse a black keeper who was obviously taken by some normal banter/stick u get at football grounds! He did look good in pink mind u! UTG!!!!
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Oct 7, 2014 22:59:59 GMT
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Post by DudeLebowski on Oct 7, 2014 22:59:59 GMT
Rovers fans racist? Doubt that very much after having most probably our best players in the clubs history ( on average) names like, Carl Saunders, Devon White, hayels Roberts, Ellington...... The list goes on!!! One think that stands out with our club is we have always produced top black players at this football club who have made us millions so sorry no I don't think we would go that low to abuse a black keeper who was obviously taken by some normal banter/stick u get at football grounds! He did look good in pink mind u! UTG!!!! I love your optimism.
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Oct 7, 2014 23:10:00 GMT
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Post by james83 on Oct 7, 2014 23:10:00 GMT
Rovers fans racist? Doubt that very much after having most probably our best players in the clubs history ( on average) names like, Carl Saunders, Devon White, hayels Roberts, Ellington...... The list goes on!!! One think that stands out with our club is we have always produced top black players at this football club who have made us millions so sorry no I don't think we would go that low to abuse a black keeper who was obviously taken by some normal banter/stick u get at football grounds! He did look good in pink mind u! UTG!!!! I love your optimism. cheers dude
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Post by Gastafari on Oct 7, 2014 23:10:17 GMT
His feelings must be hurt really badly, so hunting the culprit down and putting him in the dock for sentencing is the right solutions. Hurt feelings = legal action. I'll say it again Hurt feelings = legal action Please come to your senses and get some level of proportionality. It's ugly, its others nice. It's still just words. Get a grip and stop having your opinions formed by the telly for God's sake. There's real racism out there which genuinely IS appalling. You either ban all forms of abuse, or none at all. Involving race only became an issue once the authorities realised multiculturalism hasn't worked and they need to keep a lid on it. It's their issue, not ours. your clearly a blatant racist,youve proved it beyond all doubt in your posts on this thread Why is he a racist? I tend to agree with him! Abuse is abuse! Its ok to abuse somebody about their appearance,disability, weight, Nationality and a whole lot of other things but Racism, Sexism and Homophobia have been put on a pedastool and are deemed far more severe than any other form of abuse! Why is that? Cue the I must be a closet racist comments!
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Post by james83 on Oct 7, 2014 23:22:03 GMT
Do we know what was actually said?? It's said it was two gasheads in the blackthorn end
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 23:53:25 GMT
Racism is a fiction? I'm ginger and I was stood at AFC Wimbledon last season as the linesman got untold amounts of flak and abuse based on his hair colour. I didn't care much. Why? Because now and historically political and systemic prejudice toward gingers doesn't exist. it doesn't define my history (my skin colour does) or my chances of success in life. If racism was expressed toward a black linesman I would have had to respond or leave the ground. It looks like a black player has come to Rovers and had his race called out as a reason for abuse by a member of our crowd. TBH I'd rather we lost than hear that. See it's not just words - it a reflects a deeper attitude and hate and that's why players respond in that way. Or should they just take it like they were told to in the 80s? Agreed, I was blessed with Ginger hair and to compare someone getting stick over their hair colour to their race is at best Moronic. <script type="text/javascript" src="safari-extension://com.ebay.safari.myebaymanager-QYHMMGCMJR/6645cc9f/background/helpers/prefilterHelper.js"></script> Born a carrot? You poor barsteward.
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