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Post by Nurse Ratched on Oct 5, 2014 10:56:34 GMT
You have a problem, you find a solution. Do not see the problem with the Delivery hours but no doubt if that is overcome with sound proofing then there will be something else which upsets the Locals. At the end of the day they don't want a Football Stadium,they don't want a Supermarket. How about letting gypsy's in there? Perhaps then they will have something to complain about!!! Obviously you try (or not in sainsburys case). I dont think it is unreasonable for the residents to object to potentially have lorries rumble by their house at 5 in the morning or midnight And if resident's cannot hear it?The measures to counteract any noise (like the 'rumble' proof special road surface) have all been put forward. Are you going to keep ignoring this? Your argument is unreasonable (but deliberately so).
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Post by Peter Parker on Oct 5, 2014 11:09:30 GMT
Obviously you try (or not in sainsburys case). I dont think it is unreasonable for the residents to object to potentially have lorries rumble by their house at 5 in the morning or midnight And if resident's cannot hear it?The measures to counteract any noise (like the 'rumble' proof special road surface) have all been put forward. Are you going to keep ignoring this? Your argument is unreasonable (but deliberately so). Not ignoring it at all. Still doesnt mean it is unreasonable to object does it. Maybe the lorries will be silent and fly in on magic carpets and no one will hear a thing. I still dont beleive Sainsburys if they still wanted the site, need those hours. As i say from a Rovers point of view i hope it is succesful. From a non Rovers view i think the hours are unreasonable whatever the measures. I dont think that is hard for you to understand is it. Even if it goes our way, i dont envisage sainsburys just handing us the cash so we can get on with it and i think it would be niave for anyone to think that
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Post by tbonegas on Oct 5, 2014 11:28:57 GMT
Sack the board
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 12:10:11 GMT
Lies.....More chance of Balotelli scoring a hat-trick, than us getting a new ground. The sooner that fraud is out of our club the better, he's turned us into a laughing stock and should never ever ever be forgiven for what he has done for BRFC. You have proof of this ?? I'm not laughing, the only thing i laugh at is your Ted like posts
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Post by onedaytheuwe on Oct 5, 2014 12:34:17 GMT
I think it is unfair to keep accusing people on this forum TEDS if they raise objections. The fact is I have been supporting this club for years and years and anyone who know me will qualify this, However: fans are fed up that we are a ' pipedream' club. I hate it CITY have a new revamped ground so have Gloucestershire Cricket. That Cardiff have a new stadium and Swansea and Gloucester Rugby is taking shape. Everyone around us from Southampton to Swansea are either gaining on the pitch or off.
And here we are back in Bristol and it is 1997. Who would of thought the ground would be almost identical 15 years later and the club will drop from Jason Roberts / Mark Walters to a non leauge outfit . Forget even about the days of Devon White and a reasonable championship club or Paul Randell and 15000 plus at Eastville.
If our frustration labels us TEDS . Then it is a cheap counter - arguement to deflect the truth. Indeed at present we are a laughing stock club...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 12:39:47 GMT
As a Rovers fan i hope we get what we want/need. However as a homeowner, a council tax payer etc, i dont beleive that Sainsburys should get the hours Rovers require Think you will find the decision was made a few days ago Why do you do this? It's unsubstantiated nonsense that seems to want to lead people up a fictional garden path. The local ward councillors (both Green) will call for the decision to be made by committee, not delegated officer powers. The Development Control Committees were reorganised earlier this year: it's now two parallel committees to even the workload rather than geographically split, and we don't yet know (albeit maybe already decided) which it will go to to make that decision. There is a Green councillor on both, who might be expected to lead arguments against. There was non-Green opposition to the main scheme anyway, which might be expected to carry over into wider opposition in the as yet unknown committee. That's my reasoning for thinking you're talking nonsense and this has not already been decided in our favour but only you and a few people know about it. I think the planning decision is at present un-callable. For the sake of balance, can you elucidate beyond 'I'm right, you're wrong, but can't possibly elaborate'?
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 5, 2014 12:45:59 GMT
I tend to view communications from Mr Higgs on this subject through the lens of the Cheltenham non-experience. I have no doubt of his good intentions, but leadership through saying one thing and doing another is common enough
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Post by swissgas on Oct 5, 2014 13:24:23 GMT
I tend to view communications from Mr Higgs on this subject through the lens of the Cheltenham non-experience. I have no doubt of his good intentions, but leadership through saying one thing and doing another is common enough All those people we read about in the newspapers who's lives were ruined after a lottery win started out with good intentions. I posted months ago that a compromise solution was required but once again we find the Rovers policy is one of confrontation. The worst thing though is that Nick Higgs continues to boast about it as he did to James yesterday. If you don't learn from the lessons of history you are doomed to repeat your mistakes.
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Oct 5, 2014 13:36:16 GMT
I tend to view communications from Mr Higgs on this subject through the lens of the Cheltenham non-experience. I have no doubt of his good intentions, but leadership through saying one thing and doing another is common enough All those people we read about in the newspapers who's lives were ruined after a lottery win started out with good intentions. I posted months ago that a compromise solution was required but once again we find the Rovers policy is one of confrontation. The worst thing though is that Nick Higgs continues to boast about it as he did to James yesterday. If you don't learn from the lessons of history you are doomed to repeat your mistakes. So what are you saying, just because you think there should be a "compromise solution" it should happen? What f**k the watertight contract we have & just compromise and get less out of it? Good business sense you have... Um not!
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Post by swissgas on Oct 5, 2014 13:44:44 GMT
All those people we read about in the newspapers who's lives were ruined after a lottery win started out with good intentions. I posted months ago that a compromise solution was required but once again we find the Rovers policy is one of confrontation. The worst thing though is that Nick Higgs continues to boast about it as he did to James yesterday. If you don't learn from the lessons of history you are doomed to repeat your mistakes. So what are you saying, just because you think there should be a "compromise solution" it should happen? What f the watertight contract we have & just compromise and get less out of it? Good business sense you have... Um not! Gaz, I don't know what the result would be if I stood next to Nick at the urinal. But I do know that these days I rarely get my trousers wet
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Oct 5, 2014 13:47:22 GMT
So what are you saying, just because you think there should be a "compromise solution" it should happen? What f the watertight contract we have & just compromise and get less out of it? Good business sense you have... Um not! Gaz, I don't know what the result would be if I stood next to Nick at the urinal. But I do know that these days I rarely get my trousers wet Good response, without actually responding to my post...
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 5, 2014 14:11:03 GMT
Gaz, I don't know what the result would be if I stood next to Nick at the urinal. But I do know that these days I rarely get my trousers wet Good response, without actually responding to my post... I think your post contained a personal attack as much as a response to his comment, and thus didn't deserve a response
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Post by swissgas on Oct 5, 2014 14:13:56 GMT
Good response too Gaz.
We must never forget that Rovers is a broad church with many different shades of opinion but one goal which is to build a successful football club.
I've been critical of Nick's confrontational approach throughout his time as Chairman. If it had paid off, if we were still competitive in league one, if we had a new stadium, if we had created a happy club with a strong foundation to build for the future then of course I would have been wrong and Nick would have been proven right. But that hasn't happened and yet the same confrontational approach continues and many fans still think it will pay off.
My approach is different and I have to deal with big corporations, both buying and selling, every day. In some ways it's like a guerrilla war, we have to manage our limited resources carefully, we have to maximize our strengths and try to minimize their strengths, we have to keep everyone who can help our cause "on side", we have to know what we want to achieve, know when to go forward and know when to retreat. We don't win every time but I think it's fair to say we punch above our weight and do more than just survive.
Sorry, it's Sunday and I'm preaching, but I really despair of the approach Nick takes and I think it has harmed Rovers badly. Boasting to a fan in the car park about our "watertight contract" and how we were going to take on Sainsburys and win is, IMO, another error of judgement which illustrates the underlying reason for our decline.
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Post by Somerset Blue on Oct 5, 2014 14:34:36 GMT
Was the ten mins of Nick's time before or after the ice bucket challenge ...some wag on the dribuild side did comment that were ISIS about to do the be headings as Toni and Nick were sat in the chairs in the centre of the pitch awaiting the challenge ! Glad you found the wag' comments a real hoot ..... As distasteful as it gets ... Lost all respect for you !
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Post by Bridgeman on Oct 5, 2014 14:42:30 GMT
There have been numerous times when we have been told because of confidentiality clauses the amount of information we have been given has been limited. Now we have the Chairman of the football club openly discussing with a fan how we are going to progress the water tight contract with Sainsbury's. So which is it going to be.....
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Post by nit3owl64 on Oct 5, 2014 15:01:01 GMT
maybe one of those ice buckets caught him on the bonce so hence why he is talkin s**t again!!
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Post by bemmygas on Oct 5, 2014 16:06:03 GMT
Before you all start I'm not a fan of the board,but if there's anyone who wants this more than us its them they have millions riding on it what do we have £20 a week if that. If we don't get the stadium, then I'm sure there will be plenty of compo to pay them off and money left to do up the Mem 20 years ago this would be a dream.they may of made mistakes but for them and their cash( and predessors),we would be still be at bath or finished. They pay for their mistakes,every time they employ a s**t manager and s**t players who pays not us. I'd like to see a forum who votes on a new manager and the players he signs and if it goes tiitsup you all pay the hundreds of thousands of £££ it costs. I think not. If we get compo and they walk away you would find out what's it's like to be a fan owned club,going no where that's where,might go up a league maybe 2 but that's it. I moan like hell,but at players and staff who have took us for a ride for to long,but at the end of the day financially costs me nowt.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 5, 2014 17:06:48 GMT
"going nowhere" where precisely have we gone under NH's leadership?? Just because our BoD spend their own money doesn't mean they spend it wiesly.
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Post by bemmygas on Oct 5, 2014 17:15:09 GMT
Sorry should have added going nowhere EVER.
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Post by ellington on Oct 5, 2014 17:27:22 GMT
Heard elsewhere about the future..... was it Mystic Meg? That's twice now that I have heard that Nick Higgs is confident that good news will be announced on or about 25th November. The only thing that will happen on the 25th of November is a decision will be made regarding the extended delivery hours , where we go from there is anybody's guess. Regardless of the the council decision on the 25th the stadium dream in my opinion is a long way off. planningonline.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=dates&keyVal=NAND07DNKRF00
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