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Post by Curly Wurly on Oct 4, 2014 21:20:16 GMT
I'm a homeowner, council tax payer and Rovers fan and I do believe that Sainsburys should get the hours Rovers require........so there! Thats fine, but why should people who on here who think the requested hours are unreasonable be questioned by some in their support for the team/club? You can have your opinion, I can have mine - that's the beauty of it. I'd suggest a thicker skin.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 21:21:31 GMT
Well, well,well. 'Phew'. I thought your desperation over Sainsbury's walking away from the deal was just founded in anti-board rhetoric. So you live near the ground, you don't want a supermarket and prefer the two Councils to pay for your NIMBY'isum? Did you oppose this as well? As a Rovers fan i hope we get what we want/need. However as a homeowner, a council tax payer etc, i dont beleive that Sainsburys should get the hours Rovers requireThink you will find the decision was made a few days ago
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Post by Curly Wurly on Oct 4, 2014 21:22:07 GMT
The trouble is Sainsburys don't want to complete, that much is pretty clear, so whilst BCC maybe 100% behind it, I'm afraid it may not be as straightforward as the chairman and other contributers who delight in offering titbits or being in the know would have us all believe. Exactly. So the opinions of the majority living in the area are ignored (again) and the extended hours are granted, what then? 1. Carstairs probably has another 20 stalling devices ready. 2. Sainsbury's do not want to do the deal, I don't get which part of this is hard to understand. What's Higgs going to do, give them a Chinese burn or a wedgey to get them to hand their money over? 3. Carstairs is determined, but he's a minor irritation compared to Sainsbury's legal team. Anyone who thinks they will just roll over if the appeal is successful is deluded. This could go on for years, as it has at other sites around the country. Or the contract could just time-expire and that will be the end of that. If the deal is so great for Bristol then BCC can buy the site and do something that actually improves the area. Come to think of it, has anyone ever seen Bamber and Carstairs in the same room together? Just saying like
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 21:32:07 GMT
I'm a homeowner, council tax payer and Rovers fan and I do believe that Sainsburys should get the hours Rovers require........so there! Thats fine, but why should people who on here who think the requested hours are unreasonable be questioned by some in their support for the team/club? Because some people are a bit mental. I shouldn't worry about it tbh
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 21:39:13 GMT
In what way does wanting the area improved make someone less of a supporter? No point taking your frustrations out on me, I want what most Rovers fans want, for the club to be debt free, a new stadium would be lovely, professionally run, at least 2 divisions higher, without record losses etc etc etc. So, you don't think that when Sainsbury's finally walk away, BCC should be encouraged to speak to S-Glouces Council and between them look at the overall picture and consider if theres any way that they could justify using their funds to initiate a chain reaction of events that results in hundreds of millions of pounds of regional investment, a couple of hundred jobs and adding desperately needed housing stock to the area. Well, well,well. 'Phew'. I thought your desperation over Sainsbury's walking away from the deal was just founded in anti-board rhetoric. So you live near the ground, you don't want a supermarket and prefer the two Councils to pay for your NIMBY'isum? Did you oppose this as well?</div>Apology accepted. For what it's worth, I live in Gloucestershire, so these schemes don't directly affect me, but I do like to try to be objective. I've no idea what a 7 acre site at the top of Muller Rd could be used for, what do you think would help in BS7 and the City in general to a degree that would justify investing BCC funds? No problem with telling you my opinion on the scheme pictured, it was brilliant, apart from the funding gap, which was rumoured to have grown to a point where some of the facilities in the stadium couldn't have been completed, and the fact that the 'no cars within 1 mile of the complex' clause in the tenancy agreement was totally unenforceable and would have caused huge peoblems in the surrounding streets that fell outside of the RPZ. I still think that Higgs will be furious when he eventually finds out who leaked the story that Opal had pulled out. He said himself in a television interview that the story breaking made it impossible for him to go to the other accomdation provider who was, at that point in time, still interested.
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Post by Bridgeman on Oct 4, 2014 21:46:37 GMT
Well, well,well. 'Phew'. I thought your desperation over Sainsbury's walking away from the deal was just founded in anti-board rhetoric. So you live near the ground, you don't want a supermarket and prefer the two Councils to pay for your NIMBY'isum? Did you oppose this as well?</div>Apology accepted. For what it's worth, I live in Gloucestershire, so these schemes don't directly affect me, but I do like to try to be objective. I've no idea what a 7 acre site at the top of Muller Rd could be used for, what do you think would help in BS7 and the City in general to a degree that would justify investing BCC funds? No problem with telling you my opinion on the scheme pictured, it was brilliant, apart from the funding gap, which was rumoured to have grown to a point where some of the facilities in the stadium couldn't have been completed, and the fact that the 'no cars within 1 mile of the complex' clause in the tenancy agreement was totally unenforceable and would have caused huge peoblems in the surrounding streets that fell outside of the RPZ. I still think that Higgs will be furious when he eventually finds out who leaked the story that Opal had pulled out. He said himself in a television interview that the story breaking made it impossible for him to go to the other accomdation provider who was, at that point in time, still interested. One assumes it was Opal unless there was a confidentiality clause, why would Opal want another competitor to gain an advantage ?
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Post by Nurse Ratched on Oct 4, 2014 21:47:37 GMT
Well, well,well. 'Phew'. I thought your desperation over Sainsbury's walking away from the deal was just founded in anti-board rhetoric. So you live near the ground, you don't want a supermarket and prefer the two Councils to pay for your NIMBY'isum? Did you oppose this as well?</div>Apology accepted. For what it's worth, I live in Gloucestershire, so these schemes don't directly affect me, but I do like to try to be objective. Yeah, right.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 21:50:44 GMT
Well, well,well. 'Phew'. I thought your desperation over Sainsbury's walking away from the deal was just founded in anti-board rhetoric. So you live near the ground, you don't want a supermarket and prefer the two Councils to pay for your NIMBY'isum? Did you oppose this as well?</div>Apology accepted. For what it's worth, I live in Gloucestershire, so these schemes don't directly affect me, but I do like to try to be objective. I've no idea what a 7 acre site at the top of Muller Rd could be used for, what do you think would help in BS7 and the City in general to a degree that would justify investing BCC funds? No problem with telling you my opinion on the scheme pictured, it was brilliant, apart from the funding gap, which was rumoured to have grown to a point where some of the facilities in the stadium couldn't have been completed, and the fact that the 'no cars within 1 mile of the complex' clause in the tenancy agreement was totally unenforceable and would have caused huge peoblems in the surrounding streets that fell outside of the RPZ. I still think that Higgs will be furious when he eventually finds out who leaked the story that Opal had pulled out. He said himself in a television interview that the story breaking made it impossible for him to go to the other accomdation provider who was, at that point in time, still interested. Now that made me laugh
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Post by Nurse Ratched on Oct 4, 2014 21:51:54 GMT
I'm a homeowner, council tax payer and Rovers fan and I do believe that Sainsburys should get the hours Rovers require........so there! Thats fine, but why should people who on here who think the requested hours are unreasonable be questioned by some in their support for the team/club? Maybe it is your argument that is unreasonable? Why argue about something that is trivial, have no affect on the resident's due to the proposed soundproofing measures (actually improve the situation overall), while defending objections driven by an anti-supermarket/anti anything at the Mem? This is a golden chance for Rovers to finally progress. As homeowner, council tax payer and a Rovers fan, why do you spurn that opportunity over something that won't effect them, let alone effect you who probably don't live anywhere near the Mem? It's weird.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 22:14:02 GMT
I dunno if we really need a 21,000 seat stadium, maybe something a bit smaller (12-15,000) that can be expanded in future and costs a lot less might make more sense?
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Post by Peter Parker on Oct 4, 2014 22:18:18 GMT
Thats fine, but why should people who on here who think the requested hours are unreasonable be questioned by some in their support for the team/club? Maybe it is your argument that is unreasonable? Why argue about something that is trivial, have no affect on the resident's due to the proposed soundproofing measures (actually improve the situation overall), while defending objections driven by an anti-supermarket/anti anything at the Mem? This is a golden chance for Rovers to finally progress. As homeowner, council tax payer and a Rovers fan, why do you spurn that opportunity over something that won't effect them, let alone effect you who probably don't live anywhere near the Mem? It's weird. Do the soundproofing measures work? There seems to be some confusion with the application on db levels. As for not affecting me. No this doesnt. However my house is next door to a newsagent that has been closed for 18.months, is for sale as a development. So i will be interested in who buys it and what they intend to do and how it may affect my property. Just because i am a Rovers fan, doesnt mean i cant look beyond Rovers and see other views. As i said tbe proposed store already has longer hours than anywhere else, so why should it be granted longer. Is that an unreasonable viewpoint without Rovers goggles on?
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Post by Nurse Ratched on Oct 4, 2014 23:33:19 GMT
Maybe it is your argument that is unreasonable? Why argue about something that is trivial, have no affect on the resident's due to the proposed soundproofing measures (actually improve the situation overall), while defending objections driven by an anti-supermarket/anti anything at the Mem? This is a golden chance for Rovers to finally progress. As homeowner, council tax payer and a Rovers fan, why do you spurn that opportunity over something that won't effect them, let alone effect you who probably don't live anywhere near the Mem? It's weird. Do the soundproofing measures work? There seems to be some confusion with the application on db levels. As for not affecting me. No this doesnt. However my house is next door to a newsagent that has been closed for 18.months, is for sale as a development. So i will be interested in who buys it and what they intend to do and how it may affect my property. Just because i am a Rovers fan, doesnt mean i cant look beyond Rovers and see other views. As i said tbe proposed store already has longer hours than anywhere else, so why should it be granted longer. Is that an unreasonable viewpoint without Rovers goggles on? Of course they don't work! It's all make believe just to get Rovers a stadium. Do you honestly think that they would allow something that is not tried and tested in other situations? Do you honestly think that Acoustics24 would just put together a load of rubbish to hoodwink the Council into passing it? "tHe proposed store already has longer hours than anywhere else" - NOT true! Jeez!
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Post by PeterHooper57 on Oct 5, 2014 6:37:06 GMT
There is no doubting Nick is a total Gashead, he loves the club; but he needs to realise the NIMBYS, Sainsburys, Cairstairs and BCC dont ! and UWE probably dont give a **** either. If Sainsburys do not want the MEM, the best Hggdsie can hope for is damages, which might cover some of his costs todate, once he has his pay out, he should put his hands up say the job is too big for him, and we can all move on and concentrate on the football. UTG
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Post by aldershotgas on Oct 5, 2014 6:52:28 GMT
Lies.....More chance of Balotelli scoring a hat-trick, than us getting a new ground. The sooner that fraud is out of our club the better, he's turned us into a laughing stock and should never ever ever be forgiven for what he has done for BRFC.
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Post by Peter Parker on Oct 5, 2014 7:50:41 GMT
Do the soundproofing measures work? There seems to be some confusion with the application on db levels. As for not affecting me. No this doesnt. However my house is next door to a newsagent that has been closed for 18.months, is for sale as a development. So i will be interested in who buys it and what they intend to do and how it may affect my property. Just because i am a Rovers fan, doesnt mean i cant look beyond Rovers and see other views. As said tbe proposed store already has longer hours than anywhere else, so why should it be granted longer. Is that an unreasonable viewpoint without Rovers goggles on? Of course they don't work! It's all make believe just to get Rovers a stadium. Do you honestly think that they would allow something that is not tried and tested in other situations? Do you honestly think that Acoustics24 would just put together a load of rubbish to hoodwink the Council into passing it? "tHe proposed store already has longer hours than anywhere else" - NOT true! Jeez! I am not suggesting it is wrong. Ultimaey BCC will decide id the measures work sufficiently to grant the exa delivery hours. Again. Without Rovers goggles, do you not find the proposed hours unreasonable for a residential area. I personally happen to think they are. You may not, however my viewpoint that they are doesnt mean i want it to fail as a Rovers fan
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 5, 2014 8:34:57 GMT
I'm a homeowner, council tax payer and Rovers fan and I do believe that Sainsburys should get the hours Rovers require........so there! Thats fine, but why should people who on here who think the requested hours are unreasonable be questioned by some in their support for the team/club? Because some people love to slag off other Gasheads and make out they are better connected and better fans!
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 5, 2014 8:45:50 GMT
You have a problem, you find a solution. Do not see the problem with the Delivery hours but no doubt if that is overcome with sound proofing then there will be something else which upsets the Locals. At the end of the day they don't want a Football Stadium,they don't want a Supermarket. How about letting gypsy's in there? Perhaps then they will have something to complain about!!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 5, 2014 8:51:03 GMT
The Telegraph in a big article today is now likening the supermarket crisis to the banking collapse, it's hard to believe NH luck!
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Post by Peter Parker on Oct 5, 2014 8:57:27 GMT
You have a problem, you find a solution. Do not see the problem with the Delivery hours but no doubt if that is overcome with sound proofing then there will be something else which upsets the Locals. At the end of the day they don't want a Football Stadium,they don't want a Supermarket. How about letting gypsy's in there? Perhaps then they will have something to complain about!!! Obviously you try (or not in sainsburys case). I dont think it is unreasonable for the residents to object to potentially have lorries rumble by their house at 5 in the morning or midnight
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Oct 5, 2014 10:51:27 GMT
Was the ten mins of Nick's time before or after the ice bucket challenge ...some wag on the dribuild side did comment that were ISIS about to do the be headings as Toni and Nick were sat in the chairs in the centre of the pitch awaiting the challenge ! I don't normally name call, but what a pri.(k you are. Have some respect.
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