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Post by toteend3 on Oct 6, 2024 10:26:26 GMT
If you go back far enough to the 'black and white days' before the Premier League, before the big stadiums, before the big wages, before the big transfer fees, before World Cup 66, before televised wall to wall football coverage etc etc, etc.
As a kid growing up in the late fifties early sixties we as a family would go on holiday to the likes of Margate, Southend, Brighton and the seaside shops would sale football club scarfs, cards, rosette's, badges and more. The only football on the Tv was once a year, when the whole family would crowd around the tv for the FA Cup Final.
The interesting thing was, you were just as likely to find Bristol Rovers in the football theamed merchandise on sale as Chelsea, West Ham etc. Also rundown Eastville Stadium in those days was no different to Upton Park and Stamford Bridge.
Two clubs that you wouldn't find, however are Bournemouth and Brentford.
Fast forward to Sept 24, we have just lost four matches on the trot and if replicated in Oct
24 MT's position would be untenable, and we would have to start the process all over again.
So the dream of at least Championship football is back on the agenda, we have A-Q on the terraces cheering the team on at Burton, along with MT ringing out the changes early in the second half, SS once again motivating the players and the team responding and the three points are
ours. UTG
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Post by Icegas on Oct 6, 2024 16:00:01 GMT
If you go back far enough to the 'black and white days' before the Premier League, before the big stadiums, before the big wages, before the big transfer fees, before World Cup 66, before televised wall to wall football coverage etc etc, etc. As a kid growing up in the late fifties early sixties we as a family would go on holiday to the likes of Margate, Southend, Brighton and the seaside shops would sale football club scarfs, cards, rosette's, badges and more. The only football on the Tv was once a year, when the whole family would crowd around the tv for the FA Cup Final. The interesting thing was, you were just as likely to find Bristol Rovers in the football theamed merchandise on sale as Chelsea, West Ham etc. Also rundown Eastville Stadium in those days was no different to Upton Park and Stamford Bridge. Two clubs that you wouldn't find, however are Bournemouth and Brentford. Fast forward to Sept 24, we have just lost four matches on the trot and if replicated in Oct 24 MT's position would be untenable, and we would have to start the process all over again. So the dream of at least Championship football is back on the agenda, we have A-Q on the terraces cheering the team on at Burton, along with MT ringing out the changes early in the second half, SS once again motivating the players and the team responding and the three points are ours. UTG I'm 43 next month,still young but I'm very much old school at heart and hate everything about modern day "soccer".. Everything.. It's soulless, even at our level with what's happening at Wrexham and Birmingham. I'm actually watching the last 10 minutes of our little red neighbours playing in their main Derby now..😙 .. But I don't think I hate them anymore, due to not playing them. I don't know any of their players,not one and their newer s**thole.. ( while impressive) does not have the character of the older s**thole, that they had before. The thing I like about our club is that realistically, we are a club that should be challenging for premiership football, or top half - top flight soccer... purely,and just like.. LTD 82 FC should also be, as we are both from a British metropolis and should be doing much better due to our population, and potential. But I believe we are rotten to the core as a club, in regards to failure. We love being the underdogs, when in fact we shouldn't be. It's a Twerton mentally. Look at the new south stand for example. I like it..it's a decent size, but still has that splash of shambolicness that follows our club , in regards to the southwest corner and pillars. But it still works and gives it character and I'm happy and grateful for it. ... Football is dead to me tho. Too much money, soulless grounds and clubs would rather finish in the champions league, than win the FA or League cups. Stupid KO times due to overseas TV money. Nah... Give me a day out at Wembley in the LDV trophy final, or a playoff final with the gas and 40k fans dreaming of what we could or should be.. |
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Post by swissgas on Oct 6, 2024 16:32:46 GMT
Bit of a contradictory post there Icegas.
How can you say
“But I believe we are rotten to the core as a club, in regards to failure.
We love being the underdogs, when in fact we shouldn't be. It's a Twerton mentally. “
And then praise the mediocrity of the South Stand ?
The same with totend3’s original post where he talks about the dream of Championship football being back on again and cites A-Q on the terraces as an example of why.
The problem at Rovers is that all we do is dream.
Last week Wael gave an interview to someone at Reading FC in which he said in the lower leagues there was no need for a CEO or a management structure ( despite him actually appointing two CEO’s) and that at our level the manager should work directly with the owner. This is an example of someone dreaming of where they want to be but having no idea of how they are going to get there.
A great many Gasheads seem to love this disorganized haphazard approach and as a way of compensating, because they know it will never bring real success, fall back on the notion of actually liking the decrepitness and staggering from crisis to crisis and that for us beating Scunthorpe to come third in the fourth division is as good as winning the Champions League.
I am still hoping the Al-Saeeds will try to change this culture of mediocrity.
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Post by rowdenhill on Oct 6, 2024 17:33:21 GMT
There is no culture of mediocrity. It is ambition tempered with realism.
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Post by toteend3 on Oct 6, 2024 19:28:43 GMT
Bit of a contradictory post there Icegas. How can you say “But I believe we are rotten to the core as a club, in regards to failure. We love being the underdogs, when in fact we shouldn't be. It's a Twerton mentally. “ And then praise the mediocrity of the South Stand ? The same with totend3’s original post where he talks about the dream of Championship football being back on again and cites A-Q on the terraces as an example of why. The problem at Rovers is that all we do is dream. Last week Wael gave an interview to someone at Reading FC in which he said in the lower leagues there was no need for a CEO or a management structure ( despite him actually appointing two CEO’s) and that at our level the manager should work directly with the owner. This is an example of someone dreaming of where they want to be but having no idea of how they are going to get there. A great many Gasheads seem to love this disorganized haphazard approach and as a way of compensating, because they know it will never bring real success, fall back on the notion of actually liking the decrepitness and staggering from crisis to crisis and that for us beating Scunthorpe to come third in the fourth division is as good as winning the Champions League. I am still hoping the Al-Saeeds will try to change this culture of mediocrity. A-Q for me suggests that he is confident enough to join the fans on the terrace’s in the belief that he can make a difference with his financial investment to both the playing side and the infrastructure. The team is well balanced and there is strength in depth and if MT and SS can keep the momentum going there is no reason why we can’t be in the promotion mix at the end of the season, bearing in mind a hopeless London club we Muller roaded on Tuesday night, who then only went on to beat the the league leaders yesterday. So it’s all up for grabs and iam going to allow myself a wacky pipe dream……. |
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Post by swissgas on Oct 7, 2024 13:57:32 GMT
There is no culture of mediocrity. It is ambition tempered with realism. I don’t think it’s unrealistic for Gasheads to expect better than we get. But we’ve been conditioned to believe that excellence is beyond us and that we must be happy putting up with mediocrity. |
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Post by swissgas on Oct 7, 2024 14:07:34 GMT
Bit of a contradictory post there Icegas. How can you say “But I believe we are rotten to the core as a club, in regards to failure. We love being the underdogs, when in fact we shouldn't be. It's a Twerton mentally. “ And then praise the mediocrity of the South Stand ? The same with totend3’s original post where he talks about the dream of Championship football being back on again and cites A-Q on the terraces as an example of why. The problem at Rovers is that all we do is dream. Last week Wael gave an interview to someone at Reading FC in which he said in the lower leagues there was no need for a CEO or a management structure ( despite him actually appointing two CEO’s) and that at our level the manager should work directly with the owner. This is an example of someone dreaming of where they want to be but having no idea of how they are going to get there. A great many Gasheads seem to love this disorganized haphazard approach and as a way of compensating, because they know it will never bring real success, fall back on the notion of actually liking the decrepitness and staggering from crisis to crisis and that for us beating Scunthorpe to come third in the fourth division is as good as winning the Champions League. I am still hoping the Al-Saeeds will try to change this culture of mediocrity. A-Q for me suggests that he is confident enough to join the fans on the terrace’s in the belief that he can make a difference with his financial investment to both the playing side and the infrastructure. The team is well balanced and there is strength in depth and if MT and SS can keep the momentum going there is no reason why we can’t be in the promotion mix at the end of the season, bearing in mind a hopeless London club we Muller roaded on Tuesday night, who then only went on to beat the the league leaders yesterday. So it’s all up for grabs and iam going to allow myself a wacky pipe dream……. For me the dream is that Rovers hierarchy stop dreaming and that the Al- Saeeds start to assert themselves and show they are in control. What we witnessed with the Reading FC interview, the unleashing of the attack dogs on Gaschat last Thursday and the pub performance at Burton on Saturday was, IMO, not in Rovers best interests. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 7, 2024 14:11:55 GMT
A-Q for me suggests that he is confident enough to join the fans on the terrace’s in the belief that he can make a difference with his financial investment to both the playing side and the infrastructure. The team is well balanced and there is strength in depth and if MT and SS can keep the momentum going there is no reason why we can’t be in the promotion mix at the end of the season, bearing in mind a hopeless London club we Muller roaded on Tuesday night, who then only went on to beat the the league leaders yesterday. So it’s all up for grabs and iam going to allow myself a wacky pipe dream……. For me the dream is that Rovers hierarchy stop dreaming and that the Al- Saeeds start to assert themselves and show they are in control. What we witnessed with the Reading FC interview, the unleashing of the attack dogs on Gaschat last Thursday and the pub performance at Burton on Saturday was, IMO, not in Rovers best interests. have you a link to the Reading FC interview swiss? Or anyone else? (I didn't see anything on their website) |
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 7, 2024 14:15:31 GMT
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Post by swissgas on Oct 7, 2024 15:11:14 GMT
For me the dream is that Rovers hierarchy stop dreaming and that the Al- Saeeds start to assert themselves and show they are in control. What we witnessed with the Reading FC interview, the unleashing of the attack dogs on Gaschat last Thursday and the pub performance at Burton on Saturday was, IMO, not in Rovers best interests. have you a link to the Reading FC interview swiss? Or anyone else? (I didn't see anything on their website) |
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Post by swissgas on Oct 7, 2024 15:32:37 GMT
Thanks for digging this up Piratey. We mustn't forget that these publications don't create these articles out of nothing they are being fed information and Football League World has been used in this way before. You and I don't always see eye to eye and you tend to look on the bright side while I am much more skeptical but I hope you will agree that Wael's sudden reappearance and the anti Abdullatif campaign on Gaschat is not coincidental. For me the interview with the guy from Reading is like a Fast Show sketch with Charlie Higson as the interviewer lobbing questions at Paul Whitehouse as Wael and inviting him to make more and more absurd claims while the audience is in stitches because they know what really happened at Rovers during Wael's ownership. But of course it isn't actually like that because so many Gasheads see those times as a "golden period" despite all the evidence to the contrary and the fact that the money tree wilted in 2022. So Wael returning to save us from the evil Abdullatif is quite appealing to many. But do those Gasheads think the Al-Saeeds are going to say " Oh Wael, you are right, we are going about things all the wrong way, you were very successful before so please come back and show us how it should be done, we'll keep putting the money in" |
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Post by The Concept on Oct 7, 2024 17:24:12 GMT
have you a link to the Reading FC interview swiss? Or anyone else? (I didn't see anything on their website) Oh wow! I didn't realise that. I'd been under the impression all this time that we weren't in the relegation positions when JB joined, before taking us to 10 points adrift at the very bottom. I take it all back. " I felt that we needed, you know, a strong and charismatic, umm, manager. Brought in Joe Barton, ah, it was too late, we were already relegated, by the time he could do anything." (19.35 minutes) |
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Post by baselswh on Oct 7, 2024 19:13:58 GMT
WAQ and the Al Saeeds don't seem to agree.
Hmm.
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Post by rideintothesun on Oct 7, 2024 22:35:31 GMT
Oh wow! I didn't realise that. I'd been under the impression all this time that we weren't in the relegation positions when JB joined, before taking us to 10 points adrift at the very bottom. I take it all back. " I felt that we needed, you know, a strong and charismatic, umm, manager. Brought in Joe Barton, ah, it was too late, we were already relegated, by the time he could do anything." (19.35 minutes) It's an interesting question. Technically that team was outside the relegation zone when JB was appointed. However, Bartonistas would have us believe that the team was doomed before JB took over and that there was no hope of survival. JB of course voiced this view after the team slumped to the bottom of the league.
I certainly didn't view relegation as a certainty until quite late in the season.
I remember us losing a lot of games against very, very poor sides at home. Even though the team wasn't very good at all, I think JB threw in the towel too early.
Of the three sides relegated from D1 (Thompson, Campbell, Barton), I would say Thompson's was the worst, and they took it to the penultimate game. I would even possibly claim that the Thompson side, which finished second bottom of D3 in the next season, was worse than the one relegated to the conference.
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 8, 2024 6:49:48 GMT
Thanks for digging this up Piratey. We mustn't forget that these publications don't create these articles out of nothing they are being fed information and Football League World has been used in this way before. You and I don't always see eye to eye and you tend to look on the bright side while I am much more skeptical but I hope you will agree that Wael's sudden reappearance and the anti Abdullatif campaign on Gaschat is not coincidental. For me the interview with the guy from Reading is like a Fast Show sketch with Charlie Higson as the interviewer lobbing questions at Paul Whitehouse as Wael and inviting him to make more and more absurd claims while the audience is in stitches because they know what really happened at Rovers during Wael's ownership. But of course it isn't actually like that because so many Gasheads see those times as a "golden period" despite all the evidence to the contrary and the fact that the money tree wilted in 2022. So Wael returning to save us from the evil Abdullatif is quite appealing to many. But do those Gasheads think the Al-Saeeds are going to say " Oh Wael, you are right, we are going about things all the wrong way, you were very successful before so please come back and show us how it should be done, we'll keep putting the money in" If by ‘not coincidental’ you mean that disagreements at the club are coming into the open, then yes it appears that is the case Personally I’m thinking that the main benefit of split ownership is that there are 2 sources of funds As stated previously, I like the current management and recruitment. Early days, but I see many grounds for hope Wael’s stress on keeping the support of fans might explain his history of over-promising And his stated view of the preeminence of the club and owner’s reputation seems to me irony-deficient for the bloke who brought in Voldemort Bloke’s a proper Gashead tho |
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 8, 2024 8:11:44 GMT
WAQ and the Al Saeeds don't seem to agree. Hmm. This has been the case for well over a year now. IMHO Rovers cannot move forward while Wael spends his time attempting to undermine the majority owners. Wael might well be a 'proper Gashead'. Sadly just being a 'proper Gashead' doesn't necessarily qualify you to run the football club. Out of his depth. Petulant. Thin skinned. Scheming. If he really wants what's best for Bristol Rovers FC, he should sell his minority share holding and exit stage left. And he can take his media spokesman / unpleasant second hand car dealer with him. |
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Post by trymer on Oct 8, 2024 9:03:37 GMT
Can anyone explain what 'proper Gashead' means ? I know that the city lot often referred to Rovers supporters as 'gas heads' but I dont understand where Gashead comes from or what it actually means (if anything).
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Post by toteend3 on Oct 8, 2024 9:37:19 GMT
Can anyone explain what 'proper Gashead' means ? I know that the city lot often referred to Rovers supporters as 'gas heads' but I dont understand where Gashead comes from or what it actually means (if anything). Attachments:
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 8, 2024 9:59:57 GMT
Sadly just being a 'proper Gashead' doesn't necessarily qualify you to run the football club. this should be the forum banner maybe. A salutary reminder to us all |
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Post by toteend3 on Oct 8, 2024 10:53:24 GMT
That’s the gamble taken when clubs are run by people who have not have the requisite depth of football knowledge. It would be a bit like the Greens running the country!
Nevertheless, in his defence we do still have a football club to support, it’s debatable that we would have survived Covid without buckets of cash from our wishing Wael. So to that respect, and with us being a ‘broad church’ in my opinion he’s rightfully ‘a proper gashead’
Whether, it’s time for him to move over that’s not something iam qualified to answer, however having two multi millionaire’s at the helm is surely better than just one eg dragons den.
UTG
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