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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 8, 2024 10:57:34 GMT
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 8, 2024 11:45:47 GMT
Unfortunately although having split ownership may be seen to enable two sources of funds I’m not sure it plays out that way. I don’t know and am happy to be proved wrong.
ATM I read it as Wael stirring things up in the background, eager to keep his place at the top table of football. (If you can call us that.😉) He still wants to be relevant and keep a high profile in the football world. I am cynical as to his actions because, remembering what he said in Feb’16 when taking over about finances for the new stadium ‘not being a problem’ turned out to be completely untrue. It was a problem. His continuation to fund us is to be commended but he had no long term plan and we didn’t really move further other than increasing our debt which he said he’d covered.
I tend to like these new owners despite what’s being said on Gaschat about the VP. He may be using the club as a plaything but then so did Wael. I don’t know, I’m sure others do. At least with these new owners there have been plans explained about developing the ground (without firm details re the east side yet). And I like the recruitment this year. I can see some kind of plan although in the end results will determine almost everything.
Listening to Wael rewrite what happened regarding JBs appointment is laughable. Calling him ‘strong and charismatic…..’ Blimey. He forgot some other descriptions as well which I won’t repeat here. We know his other qualities! Basically what Wael said were untruths. We were not in the relegation zone, just as we weren’t when Garner was sacked. The manner in which we went down was a disgrace and that was the fault of JB. He gave up, blaming everyone else which was a disgrace. Barton got away with it because he managed, with the ability of Elliott A to give us one of the best days in our history in May ‘22. It should not disguise the fact we should never have been there.
We appear to be a house divided and that never ends well. Wael is a good communicator when he wants to be but that doesn’t make it truthful. It’s an opinion, not supported by what we saw, although others would question that. I hope the Al-Saeeds can provide a period of stability. But we are a lower league football club with all that that entails, limited finance, short-termism, frustration from a fanbase who live in the 1990s perhaps and have a feeling we should be a championship club, seeing us overtaken by rivals we played regularly last century and even this.
And whilst this continues I will still try and watch us, support us and remember that football is a game and not that important in the big scheme of things. (Hard hat on!)
UTG!
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 8, 2024 14:09:24 GMT
That’s the gamble taken when clubs are run by people who have not have the requisite depth of football knowledge. It would be a bit like the Greens running the country! Nevertheless, in his defence we do still have a football club to support, it’s debatable that we would have survived Covid without buckets of cash from our wishing Wael. So to that respect, and with us being a ‘broad church’ in my opinion he’s rightfully ‘a proper gashead’ Whether, it’s time for him to move over that’s not something iam qualified to answer, however having two multi millionaire’s at the helm is surely better than just one eg dragons den. UTG No. NO. Nein! Falsch! The co-ownership model will not work where the minority shareholder behaves like a spoiled brat. There is no evidence whatsoever that Wael Al-Qadi is working WITH the AlSaeed's. Happy to stand corrected on that. And apart from the initial handover in August 2023, has Wael ever even been seen with Hussain or Abdullatif? Again happy to stand corrected. |
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Oct 8, 2024 17:52:19 GMT
With you here Epping - it could be a force for good if both parties were of like mind and worked together to do what’s best for the club rather than their egos. All the evidence suggests they aren’t and don’t. Wael having relinquished the majority stake in ghe club now either needs to put up and shut up in public or buy out the Al Saeeds if he wont. Putting this in the public domain via his glove puppet helps no-one and makes him look like a petulant child who has spat his dummy out
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Post by toteend3 on Oct 9, 2024 7:44:47 GMT
That’s the gamble taken when clubs are run by people who have not have the requisite depth of football knowledge. It would be a bit like the Greens running the country! Nevertheless, in his defence we do still have a football club to support, it’s debatable that we would have survived Covid without buckets of cash from our wishing Wael. So to that respect, and with us being a ‘broad church’ in my opinion he’s rightfully ‘a proper gashead’ Whether, it’s time for him to move over that’s not something iam qualified to answer, however having two multi millionaire’s at the helm is surely better than just one eg dragons den. UTG No. NO. Nein! Falsch! The co-ownership model will not work where the minority shareholder behaves like a spoiled brat. There is no evidence whatsoever that Wael Al-Qadi is working WITH the AlSaeed's. Happy to stand corrected on that. And apart from the initial handover in August 2023, has Wael ever even been seen with Hussain or Abdullatif? Again happy to stand corrected. Until recently I was a company director owing 25%, and alongside the other three directors, the four of us worked together for the good of the company. If however, as you say, the two top ‘gas honchos’ are not working together, then that would explains why progress on both infrastructure and on the pitch is somewhat sluggish the football equivalent of Bristol Council. The promotion dream may take a little longer…….UTG |
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Post by irenestoyboy on Oct 9, 2024 20:01:29 GMT
That’s the gamble taken when clubs are run by people who have not have the requisite depth of football knowledge. It would be a bit like the Greens running the country! Nevertheless, in his defence we do still have a football club to support, it’s debatable that we would have survived Covid without buckets of cash from our wishing Wael. So to that respect, and with us being a ‘broad church’ in my opinion he’s rightfully ‘a proper gashead’ Whether, it’s time for him to move over that’s not something iam qualified to answer, however having two multi millionaire’s at the helm is surely better than just one eg dragons den. UTG No. NO. Nein! Falsch! The co-ownership model will not work where the minority shareholder behaves like a spoiled brat. There is no evidence whatsoever that Wael Al-Qadi is working WITH the AlSaeed's. Happy to stand corrected on that. And apart from the initial handover in August 2023, has Wael ever even been seen with Hussain or Abdullatif? Again happy to stand corrected. Hussain and Wael sit together every home game that both attend. The away games that both attend they usually travel together. Source: http://instagram.com/p/Cvure-foN4n Abdul and his little gang of coat tailers tend to keep themselves to themselves. |
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Post by swissgas on Oct 9, 2024 20:26:20 GMT
No. NO. Nein! Falsch! The co-ownership model will not work where the minority shareholder behaves like a spoiled brat. There is no evidence whatsoever that Wael Al-Qadi is working WITH the AlSaeed's. Happy to stand corrected on that. And apart from the initial handover in August 2023, has Wael ever even been seen with Hussain or Abdullatif? Again happy to stand corrected. Hussain and Wael sit together every home game that both attend. The away games that both attend they usually travel together. Source: http://instagram.com/p/Cvure-foN4n Abdul and his little gang of coat tailers tend to keep themselves to themselves. Source date : August 9th 2023 |
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Post by irenestoyboy on Oct 9, 2024 20:46:33 GMT
Hussain and Wael sit together every home game that both attend. The away games that both attend they usually travel together. Source: http://instagram.com/p/Cvure-foN4n Abdul and his little gang of coat tailers tend to keep themselves to themselves. Source date : August 9th 2023 I'll see if they sit next to each other at the next home game Swiss and post a photo here for your album. |
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Post by swissgas on Oct 9, 2024 20:58:03 GMT
Source date : August 9th 2023 I'll see if they sit next to each other at the next home game Swiss and post a photo here for your album. You were implying that a picture taken during the honeymoon period of August 2023 is evidence that Wael and Hussain are bosom buddies now. You are following the tried and trusted formula of "tell Gasheads what they want to hear and they won't check it out they'll just believe it" But it's not working any more. |
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Post by irenestoyboy on Oct 9, 2024 21:13:06 GMT
I'll see if they sit next to each other at the next home game Swiss and post a photo here for your album. You were implying that a picture taken during the honeymoon period of August 2023 is evidence that Wael and Hussain are bosom buddies now. You are following the tried and trusted formula of "tell Gasheads what they want to hear and they won't check it out they'll just believe it" But it's not working any more. I'm not. The question was, have Wael and Hussain ever been seen together. You can answer that question yourself at the home games when both are in attendance and not in their motherlands. I've seen them both at games this season talking and sitting together as a bunch of others have but don't let that get in the way of your opinion 👍🏻 |
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Post by bondigas on Oct 10, 2024 7:29:25 GMT
I wonder when Hussain and Wael sit together at games if Hussain has asked Wael why someone posted on the other forum that his son wanted to appoint a manager who was a crook.
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 10, 2024 8:41:35 GMT
No. NO. Nein! Falsch! The co-ownership model will not work where the minority shareholder behaves like a spoiled brat. There is no evidence whatsoever that Wael Al-Qadi is working WITH the AlSaeed's. Happy to stand corrected on that. And apart from the initial handover in August 2023, has Wael ever even been seen with Hussain or Abdullatif? Again happy to stand corrected. Hussain and Wael sit together every home game that both attend. The away games that both attend they usually travel together. Abdul and his little gang of coat tailers tend to keep themselves to themselves. Thanks for finding time to post. However, I did ask "apart from the initial handover in August 2023, has Wael ever even been seen with Hussain or Abdullatif?" So it was perhaps a little odd to post as 'evidence' a picture from... August 2023. Notwithstanding - a picture of Wael and Hussain happily chatting and sat together at the next home game will help assuage the feeling that there is no animosity between them. And any other evidence that they are actually working together, for the benefit of Bristol Rovers FC, much appreciated. Although perhaps it's a moot point. We don't actually know what the new owners are actually working towards anyway. |
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Post by irenestoyboy on Oct 10, 2024 10:20:50 GMT
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Post by irenestoyboy on Oct 10, 2024 10:26:05 GMT
Hussain and Wael sit together every home game that both attend. The away games that both attend they usually travel together. Abdul and his little gang of coat tailers tend to keep themselves to themselves. Thanks for finding time to post. However, I did ask "apart from the initial handover in August 2023, has Wael ever even been seen with Hussain or Abdullatif?" So it was perhaps a little odd to post as 'evidence' a picture from... August 2023. Notwithstanding - a picture of Wael and Hussain happily chatting and sat together at the next home game will help assuage the feeling that there is no animosity between them. And any other evidence that they are actually working together, for the benefit of Bristol Rovers FC, much appreciated. Although perhaps it's a moot point. We don't actually know what the new owners are actually working towards anyway. First home game of the season my lad escaped my attention for 2 mins and wondered out of our box and went and sat in the comfy seats outside box 11! I went to get him and Hussain came out to say hi (we have met a few times over the past year only to say a general greeting to) followed by Wael and all had a chat whilst my lad was pretending to be chairman of the club for 2 mins. There seemed to be nothing amiss between them that I would say was frosty at all. In fact Hussain has a decent sense of humour and comes across as a very affable man. |
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 11, 2024 9:16:26 GMT
Thanks for finding time to post. However, I did ask "apart from the initial handover in August 2023, has Wael ever even been seen with Hussain or Abdullatif?" So it was perhaps a little odd to post as 'evidence' a picture from... August 2023. Notwithstanding - a picture of Wael and Hussain happily chatting and sat together at the next home game will help assuage the feeling that there is no animosity between them. And any other evidence that they are actually working together, for the benefit of Bristol Rovers FC, much appreciated. Although perhaps it's a moot point. We don't actually know what the new owners are actually working towards anyway. First home game of the season my lad escaped my attention for 2 mins and wondered out of our box and went and sat in the comfy seats outside box 11! I went to get him and Hussain came out to say hi (we have met a few times over the past year only to say a general greeting to) followed by Wael and all had a chat whilst my lad was pretending to be chairman of the club for 2 mins. There seemed to be nothing amiss between them that I would say was frosty at all. In fact Hussain has a decent sense of humour and comes across as a very affable man. Fair enough. That's more like testimony / heresay (heresy?) than evidence, but I take your word for it. Perhaps Wael and Hussain get on fine. That's fine. I guess the 'problem' is with Wael and Abdul (and Abdul's mates). And your perception of Abdul (and Abdul's mates). Notwithstanding. Hussain can't be happy with Wael's sh1t-stirring Reading interview. Maybe ask him next time your offspring escapes... |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 12, 2024 9:20:29 GMT
No. NO. Nein! Falsch! The co-ownership model will not work where the minority shareholder behaves like a spoiled brat. There is no evidence whatsoever that Wael Al-Qadi is working WITH the AlSaeed's. Happy to stand corrected on that. And apart from the initial handover in August 2023, has Wael ever even been seen with Hussain or Abdullatif? Again happy to stand corrected. Hussain and Wael sit together every home game that both attend. The away games that both attend they usually travel together. Source: http://instagram.com/p/Cvure-foN4n Abdul and his little gang of coat tailers tend to keep themselves to themselves. Clunk Clip every trip....? Which one's Clunk? |
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Post by irenestoyboy on Oct 12, 2024 11:22:28 GMT
First home game of the season my lad escaped my attention for 2 mins and wondered out of our box and went and sat in the comfy seats outside box 11! I went to get him and Hussain came out to say hi (we have met a few times over the past year only to say a general greeting to) followed by Wael and all had a chat whilst my lad was pretending to be chairman of the club for 2 mins. There seemed to be nothing amiss between them that I would say was frosty at all. In fact Hussain has a decent sense of humour and comes across as a very affable man. Fair enough. That's more like testimony / heresay (heresy?) than evidence, but I take your word for it. Perhaps Wael and Hussain get on fine. That's fine. I guess the 'problem' is with Wael and Abdul (and Abdul's mates). And your perception of Abdul (and Abdul's mates). Notwithstanding. Hussain can't be happy with Wael's sh1t-stirring Reading interview. Maybe ask him next time your offspring escapes... Well you have 2 choices with that information. You can either accept the conversation take place and believe me or your don't and think I'm lying. I think I've evidence enough on both forums I've got no reason to lie about anything and I'll always answer questions truthfully as I've done on both forums for years. Enough people from the forums have met me to know I'm not a 💩house. |
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 12, 2024 17:26:58 GMT
Fair enough. That's more like testimony / heresay (heresy?) than evidence, but I take your word for it. Perhaps Wael and Hussain get on fine. That's fine. I guess the 'problem' is with Wael and Abdul (and Abdul's mates). And your perception of Abdul (and Abdul's mates). Notwithstanding. Hussain can't be happy with Wael's sh1t-stirring Reading interview. Maybe ask him next time your offspring escapes... Well you have 2 choices with that information. You can either accept the conversation take place and believe me or your don't and think I'm lying. I think I've evidence enough on both forums I've got no reason to lie about anything and I'll always answer questions truthfully as I've done on both forums for years. Enough people from the forums have met me to know I'm not a 💩house. I said: "I take your word for it". So that should be clear enough. As for throwing around insults like people calling someone a sh1thouse, that's probably enough to get people reported. And banned. As you should know. |
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Post by irenestoyboy on Oct 12, 2024 22:24:19 GMT
Well you have 2 choices with that information. You can either accept the conversation take place and believe me or your don't and think I'm lying. I think I've evidence enough on both forums I've got no reason to lie about anything and I'll always answer questions truthfully as I've done on both forums for years. Enough people from the forums have met me to know I'm not a 💩house. I said: "I take your word for it". So that should be clear enough. As for throwing around insults like people calling someone a sh1thouse, that's probably enough to get people reported. And banned. As you should know. Well, here is the thing Epps. One definition of being a 💩house is someone who wouldn't say something to the face of a person that they would happily and fragrantly type behind a keyboard. Especially someone who loves to make continuous veiled and sly digs and then gets all butt hurt when it's pointed out, that the only response it's to wield some power, should they have any, or act all overly offended and cry to others if they don't. I've seen both types across both forums. Now I always make sure that what I type I would have absolutely no trouble in saying to someone's face, usually because how something is typed and received and said and received are 2 totally different things and usually there is a difference when it's said in the context of conversation or debate. Now when it comes to the forum, if there are personal feelings of dislike or animosity then I'd actually have slightly more respect for any poster if that person sent a PM to explain why there was a personal issue and wanted to thrash out the differences. It would actually show a bit of fair play, depth of character and evidence that their ego isn't big enough to get in the way of sorting a personal problem out rather than slyly nit picking, nibbling or allowing others to do the same and riding on their coattails, which is childish in itself. I mean, one example that immediately springs to mind would be one you made the other day in my direction about "everyone's second hand car dealer". I mean that's just trying to stoke a fire and if that's what you want to do then fine, but don't ban me if I bite back. Just front up and tell me to my face what your personal problem is with me, because it isn't the first time, it's regularly. If you want do it in front of everyone to try and make an example of me then feel free, or you can do it in PM, I don't care which, I'll do it publicly or privately, whichever you decide. But if you decide it's public, be a man and leave your finger off the ban button, like I have done with others on the other side, it's only fair. There are constant personal jabs in my direction from you, bondi and a couple of others, and most of the time I let the comments slide, because says more about those people than it does about me and if a ban is what comes my way when I eventually get fed up with someone's BS or the constant personal nibbling, then its one I'll take happily. At least Neil and I can spar relatively heavily and give each other as good as we get without it being personal to the point where it's out of control. So yes, I know I got banned for calling you a 💩house, but now you know why, it wasn't just because I fancied calling you a name that day, and it'll only happen again if you don't treat me with the same fair play that you do others. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 13, 2024 9:57:15 GMT
Unfortunately although having split ownership may be seen to enable two sources of funds I’m not sure it plays out that way. I don’t know and am happy to be proved wrong. ATM I read it as Wael stirring things up in the background, eager to keep his place at the top table of football. (If you can call us that.😉) He still wants to be relevant and keep a high profile in the football world. I can't help but think that it's part of Wael's pitch to Al Saeed senior to replace Abdullatif as the football executive in the team ie his old job, that he might feel he rarely got the chance to do properly because of the influence of Hamer and Hani and things But I'm thinking that the majority owner had a clear view of the Barton era, which from memory is what happened when Wael had a relatively free reign (the one-stop shop of Scouse Mafia allowed him to exit Team Hamer, with a little bit of help from the Colonel when dealing with the SC and PC), so that he won't be tempted at all |
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