oldie
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Post by oldie on Jul 13, 2024 8:10:20 GMT
How are you computing this one then lads ? Reform announces donor Muslim Zia Yusaf as new party chairman The 37-year-old entrepreneur says he will bring ‘expertise, energy and passion’ to help achieve goal of ‘returning Britain to greatness’ Nothing wrong with Muslims, it's the Islamic faith that is the problem for me that you don't seem to see! This guy is welcome to join Reform if he buys into what it stands for.. I had a dear Muslim friend called Faruk that pasted way about 10 years ago, he was great man.He did is prayers,gave to Charity and raised his family here by working two jobs. He wasn't corrupted or brain washed by radical islam he just got on with his business.He respected this country and that it was a Christian country and our laws and spoke about Islamic preaching taught today and how backwards and medieval it is. Good Individual Muslims practicing their faith, respectful of our laws I have no problem with.But Islamic is radical and it's ideology is that of not wanting to conform, rather to take over which has happened to the west. Question? Why is there such a uprising here in the UK, France, Portugal, Germany,Spain, USA, I would say Canada but they are gone! That's not just racists coming out to play, it's because people can see that there own cultures being eradicated by Islam and MASS IMMIGRATION!!! - normal people have had enough.. Nothing I ever say is based on skin colour or racism or any hatred of Islam.I can just see the wood between the trees and calling it out. Has it ever occurred to you that Faruk was more representative of those of the Islamic faith than the picture you paint of that faith? Or do you think it was sheer luck that you stumbled on the one Muslim who you were happy with?
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Post by baselswh on Jul 13, 2024 8:14:10 GMT
What a superb gesture by the Reform MP. It gets bad when you start quoting yourself It's worth it. Reform candidate to give wages away to constituency charities. Plenty in Labour will be too busy fiddling expense to even consider it.
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Post by icegas on Jul 13, 2024 9:46:48 GMT
Nothing wrong with Muslims, it's the Islamic faith that is the problem for me that you don't seem to see! This guy is welcome to join Reform if he buys into what it stands for.. I had a dear Muslim friend called Faruk that pasted way about 10 years ago, he was great man.He did is prayers,gave to Charity and raised his family here by working two jobs. He wasn't corrupted or brain washed by radical islam he just got on with his business.He respected this country and that it was a Christian country and our laws and spoke about Islamic preaching taught today and how backwards and medieval it is. Good Individual Muslims practicing their faith, respectful of our laws I have no problem with.But Islamic is radical and it's ideology is that of not wanting to conform, rather to take over which has happened to the west. Question? Why is there such a uprising here in the UK, France, Portugal, Germany,Spain, USA, I would say Canada but they are gone! That's not just racists coming out to play, it's because people can see that there own cultures being eradicated by Islam and MASS IMMIGRATION!!! - normal people have had enough.. Nothing I ever say is based on skin colour or racism or any hatred of Islam.I can just see the wood between the trees and calling it out. Has it ever occurred to you that Faruk was more representative of those of the Islamic faith than the picture you paint of that faith? Or do you think it was sheer luck that you stumbled on the one Muslim who you were happy with? It of course wasn't sheer luck that I stumbled across Faruk...But there you lot go again trying to twist something I said by suggesting he is the "one Muslim person" that I could be happy with! See how that simple play on words in your question tells a completely different story to the one that I presented to you? And that was done intentionally btw so don't say it wasn't. It would be very ignorant of anyone to think he would be the "only" good Muslim.I say that based on the fact that I have been around other decent Muslims, but that does change the fact Islam is not at its core a religion of peace as is slowly killing our culture here.
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Post by oldie on Jul 13, 2024 10:00:29 GMT
Has it ever occurred to you that Faruk was more representative of those of the Islamic faith than the picture you paint of that faith? Or do you think it was sheer luck that you stumbled on the one Muslim who you were happy with? It of course wasn't sheer luck that I stumbled across Faruk...But there you lot go again trying to twist something I said by suggesting he is the "one Muslim person" that I could be happy with! See how that simple play on words in your question tells a completely different story to the one that I presented to you? And that was done intentionally btw so don't say it wasn't. It would be very ignorant of anyone to think he would be the "only" good Muslim.I say that based on the fact that I have been around other decent Muslims, but that does change the fact Islam is not at its core a religion of peace as is slowly killing our culture here. Well your experience matches mine. Most people of faith I meet, Muslim or otherwise, are indistinguishable from anyone else in their hopes and desires and support for a liberal democracy. In fact if they are, or were, immigrants, that is the reason they were attracted to the UK. In certainly was not, is not, to undermine our democracy or set up a Caliphate as some would contend.
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Post by aghast on Jul 13, 2024 13:34:46 GMT
Crikey. You're going to expel people from the UK if they don't comply with what you deem to be an acceptable form of Islam. Once this is achieved, what's the next target in your sights? So would you be ok with sharia law here in the UK then? As the Islamic faith wants that and are pushing for. Genuine question there btw.? Well obviously I wouldn't. I wouldn't want Orthodox Jewish law either. And I don't like the way Christianity is shoved down our throat, or used to be. But I don't want to expel the Christians who tell me this is a Christian country. And the prospect of the UK coming under Sharia law is laughable. Ridiculous. The one justification people have to say so is that some fundamental clerics and others have called for it. Lots of people call for lots of things, but it doesn't mean it'll happen. I mean the Monster Raving Loony party called for free beer, but that hasn't happened either. You must truly be paranoid if you believe this to be the case.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 13, 2024 13:52:55 GMT
The Islamic Sharia Council ( Sunni ) has been in use for years now.It usually sorts out marriage & divorce and to a lesser extent financial problems and disagreements.It has no official say above UK Law.
Muslims accept its judgement.
As the Muslim population grows,so to will the authority of the ISC.
You can bet your last quid on it.
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Post by aghast on Jul 13, 2024 17:49:36 GMT
The Islamic Sharia Council ( Sunni ) has been in use for years now.It usually sorts out marriage & divorce and to a lesser extent financial problems and disagreements.It has no official say above UK Law. Muslims accept its judgement. As the Muslim population grows,so to will the authority of the ISC. You can bet your last quid on it. No, you can't bet your last quid on it. Well you can if you like, but I'd rather put it on Elvis Presley being found on the moon. This is paranoid conspiracy theory rubbish, put about by people who want to destabilise the current society we, for better or worse, muddle along with. If you are part of this plot, shame on you. If you are just a hapless believer, you are either ignorant (which I don't believe) or someone with a grudge who has found like-minded people to fuel each other's paranoia.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 13, 2024 18:08:31 GMT
The Islamic Sharia Council ( Sunni ) has been in use for years now.It usually sorts out marriage & divorce and to a lesser extent financial problems and disagreements.It has no official say above UK Law. Muslims accept its judgement. As the Muslim population grows,so to will the authority of the ISC. You can bet your last quid on it. No, you can't bet your last quid on it. Well you can if you like, but I'd rather put it on Elvis Presley being found on the moon. This is paranoid conspiracy theory rubbish, put about by people who want to destabilise the current society we, for better or worse, muddle along with. If you are part of this plot, shame on you. If you are just a hapless believer, you are either ignorant (which I don't believe) or someone with a grudge who has found like-minded people to fuel each other's paranoia. The Muslim population grows at a terrific speed. Corner some them and they'll say Sharia is not for the UK,push them a little on this point and what they mean is Sharia is not for UK until Muslims vote it in. A significant amount of Imans want this,they know as things stand it's just a matter of time. Unless a reformation takes place.
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Post by aghast on Jul 13, 2024 18:16:03 GMT
No, you can't bet your last quid on it. Well you can if you like, but I'd rather put it on Elvis Presley being found on the moon. This is paranoid conspiracy theory rubbish, put about by people who want to destabilise the current society we, for better or worse, muddle along with. If you are part of this plot, shame on you. If you are just a hapless believer, you are either ignorant (which I don't believe) or someone with a grudge who has found like-minded people to fuel each other's paranoia. The Muslim population grows at a terrific speed. Corner some them and they'll say Sharia is not for the UK,push them a little on this point and what they mean is Sharia is not for UK until Muslims vote it in. A significant amount of Imans want this,they know as things stand it's just a matter of time. Unless a reformation takes place. When you escort them all from the country, will it be by bus, train or some other means of transportation?
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Post by baselswh on Jul 13, 2024 18:34:41 GMT
The Muslim population grows at a terrific speed. Corner some them and they'll say Sharia is not for the UK,push them a little on this point and what they mean is Sharia is not for UK until Muslims vote it in. A significant amount of Imans want this,they know as things stand it's just a matter of time. Unless a reformation takes place. When you escort them all from the country, will it be by bus, train or some other means of transportation? When Sharia Law is made our Law,will you be happy with that? Hopefully a sensible way for UK Islam can be found.
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Post by oldie on Jul 13, 2024 18:50:15 GMT
When you escort them all from the country, will it be by bus, train or some other means of transportation? When Sharia Law is made our Law,will you be happy with that? Hopefully a sensible way for UK Islam can be found. Yeah, but. By train, bus, coach or some other form? Sharia law in the UK... about as much chance as The Real IRA getting a majority in Westminster. It's amazing, startling, that the one's who shout loudest about our culture and democracy are so insecure. Amazing
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Post by baselswh on Jul 13, 2024 19:17:30 GMT
When Sharia Law is made our Law,will you be happy with that? Hopefully a sensible way for UK Islam can be found. Yeah, but. By train, bus, coach or some other form? Sharia law in the UK... about as much chance as The Real IRA getting a majority in Westminster. It's amazing, startling, that the one's who shout loudest about our culture and democracy are so insecure. Amazing You naturally shouted down those that heeded the warning from Farage,when he stood infront of that poster of 'refugees'. Well,he's been proven correct ( by the way ,I think he's now going to be on GB News Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursdays ). The warnings about Islam in the UK are serious,many switched on people realise the danger. After Persia falling to the loopyloops,I'm surprised you're not more aware.Then there's Palestine and their own loopy loop Hamas. Oh and those that support Hamas,want Sharia Law etc,I could'nt careless how they would be transported out of the UK.Funnily enough,I don't want to share England with people that celebrated October 7th,2023.
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Post by oldie on Jul 13, 2024 19:59:50 GMT
Yeah, but. By train, bus, coach or some other form? Sharia law in the UK... about as much chance as The Real IRA getting a majority in Westminster. It's amazing, startling, that the one's who shout loudest about our culture and democracy are so insecure. Amazing You naturally shouted down those that heeded the warning from Farage,when he stood infront of that poster of 'refugees'. Well,he's been proven correct ( by the way ,I think he's now going to be on GB News Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursdays ). The warnings about Islam in the UK are serious,many switched on people realise the danger. After Persia falling to the loopyloops,I'm surprised you're not more aware.Then there's Palestine and their own loopy loop Hamas. Oh and those that support Hamas,want Sharia Law etc,I could'nt careless how they would be transported out of the UK.Funnily enough,I don't want to share England with people that celebrated October 7th,2023. Oh god It's full on stupidity this weekend
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Post by baselswh on Jul 13, 2024 20:31:29 GMT
You naturally shouted down those that heeded the warning from Farage,when he stood infront of that poster of 'refugees'. Well,he's been proven correct ( by the way ,I think he's now going to be on GB News Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursdays ). The warnings about Islam in the UK are serious,many switched on people realise the danger. After Persia falling to the loopyloops,I'm surprised you're not more aware.Then there's Palestine and their own loopy loop Hamas. Oh and those that support Hamas,want Sharia Law etc,I could'nt careless how they would be transported out of the UK.Funnily enough,I don't want to share England with people that celebrated October 7th,2023. Oh god It's full on stupidity this weekend Boring response.
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Post by aghast on Jul 13, 2024 21:22:46 GMT
Oh god It's full on stupidity this weekend Boring response. You might be bored by it but your views on transporting UK citizens out of the country on the basis of some kind of committee of judgement are undemocratic, unmanageable and frankly dangerous to a free society. It's akin to me suggesting that the way to solve a right wing problem in this country is by giving Reform voters five years to promise to vote Labour or they'll be off to Rwanda. Obviously something I would never suggest, as I'm sure you will agree. But you have in the case of ordinary Muslims. Absolutely ludicrous and the thin end of the wedge. I hope the people you support never get into power. This country and all the freedoms it has championed for centuries would be overturned and we would be living in a right wing authoritarian state. That never ends well. Never.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 13, 2024 22:05:58 GMT
You might be bored by it but your views on transporting UK citizens out of the country on the basis of some kind of committee of judgement are undemocratic, unmanageable and frankly dangerous to a free society. It's akin to me suggesting that the way to solve a right wing problem in this country is by giving Reform voters five years to promise to vote Labour or they'll be off to Rwanda. Obviously something I would never suggest, as I'm sure you will agree. But you have in the case of ordinary Muslims. Absolutely ludicrous and the thin end of the wedge. I hope the people you support never get into power. This country and all the freedoms it has championed for centuries would be overturned and we would be living in a right wing authoritarian state. That never ends well. Never. I explained it would be years of talks and negotiations before non Reformists were given notice to leave the UK. Maybe a reformation could be attained. I do not want Sharia Law and all the disgusting,7th century barbaric crap that goes with it. There is a problem ,once recognised by Islam,then maybe something can be done about it.
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Post by oldie on Jul 14, 2024 7:39:15 GMT
How long did it take Islam/Muslims to have a bigger British population than northern Ireland and Wales? They will naturally have more in numbers than the Scottish soon enough. Then comes England. To suggest Muslims will not out grow Britons in population before long is something spoken by ignorant liars. Seriously Are you ok? Your posts are becoming more incoherent by the day
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Post by baselswh on Jul 14, 2024 7:47:50 GMT
The UK Muslim population is bigger than the Welsh population.
So it's bigger than the Northern Irish population too.
How long did that take?
Scoland will be next,then naturally England.
Those that deny this ,ridicule this ,are liars and do not care for our country and culture.
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Post by oldie on Jul 14, 2024 8:00:58 GMT
The UK Muslim population is bigger than the Welsh population. So it's bigger than the Northern Irish population too. How long did that take? Scoland will be next,then naturally England. Those that deny this ,ridicule this ,are liars and do not care for our country and culture. What about the atheist population? Wait until we take over
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Post by baselswh on Jul 14, 2024 8:03:44 GMT
The UK Muslim population is bigger than the Welsh population. So it's bigger than the Northern Irish population too. How long did that take? Scoland will be next,then naturally England. Those that deny this ,ridicule this ,are liars and do not care for our country and culture. What about the atheist population? Wait until we take over Always playing the man,not the ball. So much the nicety nice bloke at the front door,while your friend Islam,breaks in the back door,holding knives.
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