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Post by icegas on Jul 12, 2024 5:43:12 GMT
He took his oath in English and Punjabi. Sarah Green, the MP for Chesham and Amersham, took her oath in English and Welsh this week. All six of Cornwall's new MPs took their oaths in English and Cornish. Torcuil Crichton for the Scottish Isles took his oath in English and Gaelic. Presumably you're equally outraged about those but forgot to mention them. No,and why should I be..? If you can't see the difference between people taking their oaths in traditional British literature from all four corners of our isles in our Parliament and this, well the mind boggles. Their was a newly elected Muslim MP putting her hand on the quran when taking her oaths that I saw.This is a Christian country and our laws are built around Christian values. Islam is a horrible,vile religion based on hatred.There should be no bowing to it within our political system.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 12, 2024 7:44:47 GMT
He took his oath in English and Punjabi. Sarah Green, the MP for Chesham and Amersham, took her oath in English and Welsh this week. All six of Cornwall's new MPs took their oaths in English and Cornish. Torcuil Crichton for the Scottish Isles took his oath in English and Gaelic. Presumably you're equally outraged about those but forgot to mention them. No,and why should I be..? If you can't see the difference between people taking their oaths in traditional British literature from all four corners of our isles in our Parliament and this, well the mind boggles. Their was a newly elected Muslim MP putting her hand on the quran when taking her oaths that I saw.This is a Christian country and our laws are built around Christian values. Islam is a horrible,vile religion based on hatred.There should be no bowing to it within our political system. Unfortunately our Government, Police,Laws,Unions,Councils,media all are scared of Islam Ice.Have been for years. Simply put,they have been scared of someone pointing a finger at them and saying "racist " or "Islamaphobe".Not to mention being murdered. Also,the Islamic invasion has enjoyed some visible success lately. It grows stronger.
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Post by icegas on Jul 12, 2024 11:01:33 GMT
No,and why should I be..? If you can't see the difference between people taking their oaths in traditional British literature from all four corners of our isles in our Parliament and this, well the mind boggles. Their was a newly elected Muslim MP putting her hand on the quran when taking her oaths that I saw.This is a Christian country and our laws are built around Christian values. Islam is a horrible,vile religion based on hatred.There should be no bowing to it within our political system. Unfortunately our Government, Police,Laws,Unions,Councils,media all are scared of Islam Ice.Have been for years. Simply put,they have been scared of someone pointing a finger at them and saying "racist " or "Islamaphobe".Not to mention being murdered. Also,the Islamic invasion has enjoyed some visible success lately. It grows stronger. Completely,the police have been in there back pockets for years, just see the Grooming gangs that were in Telford, Huddersfield, Rotherham,Oldham, here in Bristol London ..etc...I could literally keep going on.And as you said,this is because they will be accused of racism if they do anything. Now you are seeing it in the political system.Mohammed Asaduzzaman is the new Mayor of Brighton & Hove ( WTF how the happened, the lefties/pride brigade how f**ked themselves there đ). Khan is mayor of London,the worst one ever which has turned our capital into a violet,3rd world city and the stabbing capital of the world.He continues to lie by stating that immigrants and refugees built this country for political gain. If you are a Muslim in the UK you are legally aloud to have up to 4 wives, all of whom can claim benefits. If you are a British non Muslim citizen in the UK, you are not allowed more than one wife...Does that seem fair to you? They are building one massive army a time will come when parliament is full of them and no white or black people will be in sight.Its achievements are firmly etched in its past and has no future.The Jihad has arrived and has been aided and abetted by the British government and democratic process. Britain has fallen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 11:32:40 GMT
How are you computing this one then lads ?
Reform announces donor Muslim Zia Yusaf as new party chairman The 37-year-old entrepreneur says he will bring âexpertise, energy and passionâ to help achieve goal of âreturning Britain to greatnessâ
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Post by oldie on Jul 12, 2024 11:41:03 GMT
How are you computing this one then lads ? Reform announces donor Muslim Zia Yusaf as new party chairman The 37-year-old entrepreneur says he will bring âexpertise, energy and passionâ to help achieve goal of âreturning Britain to greatnessâ Oops đđđ
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Post by aghast on Jul 12, 2024 11:43:52 GMT
How are you computing this one then lads ? Reform announces donor Muslim Zia Yusaf as new party chairman The 37-year-old entrepreneur says he will bring âexpertise, energy and passionâ to help achieve goal of âreturning Britain to greatnessâ Can't wait for this piece of gymnastics.
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Post by oldie on Jul 12, 2024 12:26:51 GMT
How are you computing this one then lads ? Reform announces donor Muslim Zia Yusaf as new party chairman The 37-year-old entrepreneur says he will bring âexpertise, energy and passionâ to help achieve goal of âreturning Britain to greatnessâ Can't wait for this piece of gymnastics. This will be fun to read!
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Post by oldie on Jul 12, 2024 12:41:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 12:50:03 GMT
Can't wait for this piece of gymnastics. This will be fun to read! Theyâll have to scuttle off for a while , read other peopleâs opinions then come back here with their contorted view points đđŹđ§
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Post by baselswh on Jul 12, 2024 12:54:41 GMT
How are you computing this one then lads ? Reform announces donor Muslim Zia Yusaf as new party chairman The 37-year-old entrepreneur says he will bring âexpertise, energy and passionâ to help achieve goal of âreturning Britain to greatnessâ I've already brought this up a while ago but in the spirit of conversation. Yousaf has made a major donation to Reform. He is a proud Britain and believes in Great Britain. He has stated Reform are the only party to vote for if you believe in GB and its values. He made a great speech at a Reform do,pre election infront of 7000. He's been interviewed on tv. Etc. A modern Muslim man.A Reformist. Absolutely welcome in the UK. Possibly a future MP and Reform leader. In a nutshell,a patriotic Brit that believes in our country. A brave and modern Muslim man that has put his money where his mouth is.A shining example to other Muslims that might be trying to find the courage to break free of fundamentalist Islam. A very welcome addition to the Reform Party.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 14:11:28 GMT
With Reform UK regularly polling between 8-12% in opinion polls, it is worth taking a deeper look at the people it is attracting.
We undertook a mega poll of 25,000 voters earlier in the year. Our findings reveal which voters are attracted to Reform UK and why. We found strongly rightwing and authoritarian views among Reform UK. Find out more below.
Who are they?
Of the 1,843 people who said that they would vote Reform UK if the election was held at the time they completed the survey, just over a third (36%) were over 65, another third were aged between 45-64 and 29% were aged between 18 and 44. Sixty per cent were male and 75% did not have a University degree. Over nine out of ten were ethnically white, while half of the remainder were Asian (predominantly Hindus and Sikhs). A higher proportion of Reform UK voters (49%) own their own home outright compared to the population as a whole (36%), and its voters are also likely to be marginally poorer than society as a whole. What do they believe?
When it comes to political views, the Reform UK voter is fairly hardline on immigration and multiculturalism. Over three quarters (76%) think immigration has been bad for Britain, while 81% do not think multiculturalism is working. 81% agree with Prime Minister Rishi Sunakâs comments that âimmigrants are going to overwhelm us and destroy our democracyâ, with 64% strongly agreeing. Over four-fifths (83%) support plans to send asylum seekers to Rwanda. Only 21% think Muslims face discrimination in todayâs Britain, while 77% believe that âIslam poses a serious threat to Western civilisationâ. Unsurprisingly, most Reform UK supporters (60%) identify themselves as âanti-wokeâ, with just 9% saying that they are âwokeâ. This should be compared to the national average of just 22% who define themselves as âanti-wokeâ and 15% as âwokeâ. Only 11% of Reform UK supporters do not understand the terms âwokeâ and âanti-wokeâ, as opposed to 26% in society as a whole. On cultural issues, Reform UK voters are far to the right of the population as a whole. Over a third hold very negative feelings towards trans people, twice that of the general public, whilst almost a half (46%) have very negative attitudes towards climate change activists. This is probably not surprising, given that 41% think that climate change is not happening or are not sure. There are deeply authoritarian attitudes amongst Reform UK voters. Over half (53%) would prefer a strong leader with the power to ignore or override Parliament, while 41% believe that âin certain circumstances, violence can be necessary to defend something you strongly believe in.â What media do they consume?
A third (32%) say they get their news from the Daily Mail (compared to 22% of society in general), while another 42% list the Daily Telegraph, The Sun and The Express, compared to 31% generally. More Reform UK supporters (26%) get their news from GB News, while 23% list the BBC. For society as a whole, 4% choose GB News and 43% choose the BBC.
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Post by oldie on Jul 12, 2024 14:21:46 GMT
With Reform UK regularly polling between 8-12% in opinion polls, it is worth taking a deeper look at the people it is attracting. We undertook a mega poll of 25,000 voters earlier in the year. Our findings reveal which voters are attracted to Reform UK and why. We found strongly rightwing and authoritarian views among Reform UK. Find out more below. Who are they? Of the 1,843 people who said that they would vote Reform UK if the election was held at the time they completed the survey, just over a third (36%) were over 65, another third were aged between 45-64 and 29% were aged between 18 and 44. Sixty per cent were male and 75% did not have a University degree. Over nine out of ten were ethnically white, while half of the remainder were Asian (predominantly Hindus and Sikhs). A higher proportion of Reform UK voters (49%) own their own home outright compared to the population as a whole (36%), and its voters are also likely to be marginally poorer than society as a whole. What do they believe? When it comes to political views, the Reform UK voter is fairly hardline on immigration and multiculturalism. Over three quarters (76%) think immigration has been bad for Britain, while 81% do not think multiculturalism is working. 81% agree with Prime Minister Rishi Sunakâs comments that âimmigrants are going to overwhelm us and destroy our democracyâ, with 64% strongly agreeing. Over four-fifths (83%) support plans to send asylum seekers to Rwanda. Only 21% think Muslims face discrimination in todayâs Britain, while 77% believe that âIslam poses a serious threat to Western civilisationâ. Unsurprisingly, most Reform UK supporters (60%) identify themselves as âanti-wokeâ, with just 9% saying that they are âwokeâ. This should be compared to the national average of just 22% who define themselves as âanti-wokeâ and 15% as âwokeâ. Only 11% of Reform UK supporters do not understand the terms âwokeâ and âanti-wokeâ, as opposed to 26% in society as a whole. On cultural issues, Reform UK voters are far to the right of the population as a whole. Over a third hold very negative feelings towards trans people, twice that of the general public, whilst almost a half (46%) have very negative attitudes towards climate change activists. This is probably not surprising, given that 41% think that climate change is not happening or are not sure. There are deeply authoritarian attitudes amongst Reform UK voters. Over half (53%) would prefer a strong leader with the power to ignore or override Parliament, while 41% believe that âin certain circumstances, violence can be necessary to defend something you strongly believe in.â What media do they consume? A third (32%) say they get their news from the Daily Mail (compared to 22% of society in general), while another 42% list the Daily Telegraph, The Sun and The Express, compared to 31% generally. More Reform UK supporters (26%) get their news from GB News, while 23% list the BBC. For society as a whole, 4% choose GB News and 43% choose the BBC. Yep
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Post by baselswh on Jul 12, 2024 15:33:59 GMT
With Reform UK regularly polling between 8-12% in opinion polls, it is worth taking a deeper look at the people it is attracting. We undertook a mega poll of 25,000 voters earlier in the year. Our findings reveal which voters are attracted to Reform UK and why. We found strongly rightwing and authoritarian views among Reform UK. Find out more below. Who are they? Of the 1,843 people who said that they would vote Reform UK if the election was held at the time they completed the survey, just over a third (36%) were over 65, another third were aged between 45-64 and 29% were aged between 18 and 44. Sixty per cent were male and 75% did not have a University degree. Over nine out of ten were ethnically white, while half of the remainder were Asian (predominantly Hindus and Sikhs). A higher proportion of Reform UK voters (49%) own their own home outright compared to the population as a whole (36%), and its voters are also likely to be marginally poorer than society as a whole. What do they believe? When it comes to political views, the Reform UK voter is fairly hardline on immigration and multiculturalism. Over three quarters (76%) think immigration has been bad for Britain, while 81% do not think multiculturalism is working. 81% agree with Prime Minister Rishi Sunakâs comments that âimmigrants are going to overwhelm us and destroy our democracyâ, with 64% strongly agreeing. Over four-fifths (83%) support plans to send asylum seekers to Rwanda. Only 21% think Muslims face discrimination in todayâs Britain, while 77% believe that âIslam poses a serious threat to Western civilisationâ. Unsurprisingly, most Reform UK supporters (60%) identify themselves as âanti-wokeâ, with just 9% saying that they are âwokeâ. This should be compared to the national average of just 22% who define themselves as âanti-wokeâ and 15% as âwokeâ. Only 11% of Reform UK supporters do not understand the terms âwokeâ and âanti-wokeâ, as opposed to 26% in society as a whole. On cultural issues, Reform UK voters are far to the right of the population as a whole. Over a third hold very negative feelings towards trans people, twice that of the general public, whilst almost a half (46%) have very negative attitudes towards climate change activists. This is probably not surprising, given that 41% think that climate change is not happening or are not sure. There are deeply authoritarian attitudes amongst Reform UK voters. Over half (53%) would prefer a strong leader with the power to ignore or override Parliament, while 41% believe that âin certain circumstances, violence can be necessary to defend something you strongly believe in.â What media do they consume? A third (32%) say they get their news from the Daily Mail (compared to 22% of society in general), while another 42% list the Daily Telegraph, The Sun and The Express, compared to 31% generally. More Reform UK supporters (26%) get their news from GB News, while 23% list the BBC. For society as a whole, 4% choose GB News and 43% choose the BBC. Who did this survey? Earlier in the year, before Farage took charge. For that time it might be quite accurate,but possibly Reform voters have changed,over 4,000,000 votes in GE. The Mail or Guardian ( slave paper)? BBC or GB News? Working class or middle class? Woke or antiwoke? Leaver or Remainer ( even though we're all Leavers now baby)? Stick with ECHR or leave it? Hardly earth shattering news these generalisations of voter choices. I mean it's all pretty obvious. It seems to say more about you than anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 15:40:59 GMT
With Reform UK regularly polling between 8-12% in opinion polls, it is worth taking a deeper look at the people it is attracting. We undertook a mega poll of 25,000 voters earlier in the year. Our findings reveal which voters are attracted to Reform UK and why. We found strongly rightwing and authoritarian views among Reform UK. Find out more below. Who are they? Of the 1,843 people who said that they would vote Reform UK if the election was held at the time they completed the survey, just over a third (36%) were over 65, another third were aged between 45-64 and 29% were aged between 18 and 44. Sixty per cent were male and 75% did not have a University degree. Over nine out of ten were ethnically white, while half of the remainder were Asian (predominantly Hindus and Sikhs). A higher proportion of Reform UK voters (49%) own their own home outright compared to the population as a whole (36%), and its voters are also likely to be marginally poorer than society as a whole. What do they believe? When it comes to political views, the Reform UK voter is fairly hardline on immigration and multiculturalism. Over three quarters (76%) think immigration has been bad for Britain, while 81% do not think multiculturalism is working. 81% agree with Prime Minister Rishi Sunakâs comments that âimmigrants are going to overwhelm us and destroy our democracyâ, with 64% strongly agreeing. Over four-fifths (83%) support plans to send asylum seekers to Rwanda. Only 21% think Muslims face discrimination in todayâs Britain, while 77% believe that âIslam poses a serious threat to Western civilisationâ. Unsurprisingly, most Reform UK supporters (60%) identify themselves as âanti-wokeâ, with just 9% saying that they are âwokeâ. This should be compared to the national average of just 22% who define themselves as âanti-wokeâ and 15% as âwokeâ. Only 11% of Reform UK supporters do not understand the terms âwokeâ and âanti-wokeâ, as opposed to 26% in society as a whole. On cultural issues, Reform UK voters are far to the right of the population as a whole. Over a third hold very negative feelings towards trans people, twice that of the general public, whilst almost a half (46%) have very negative attitudes towards climate change activists. This is probably not surprising, given that 41% think that climate change is not happening or are not sure. There are deeply authoritarian attitudes amongst Reform UK voters. Over half (53%) would prefer a strong leader with the power to ignore or override Parliament, while 41% believe that âin certain circumstances, violence can be necessary to defend something you strongly believe in.â What media do they consume? A third (32%) say they get their news from the Daily Mail (compared to 22% of society in general), while another 42% list the Daily Telegraph, The Sun and The Express, compared to 31% generally. More Reform UK supporters (26%) get their news from GB News, while 23% list the BBC. For society as a whole, 4% choose GB News and 43% choose the BBC. Who did this survey? Earlier in the year, before Farage took charge. For that time it might be quite accurate,but possibly Reform voters have changed,over 4,000,000 votes in GE. The Mail or Guardian ( slave paper)? BBC or GB News? Working class or middle class? Woke or antiwoke? Leaver or Remainer ( even though we're all Leavers now baby)? Stick with ECHR or leave it? Hardly earth shattering news these generalisations of voter choices. I mean it's all pretty obvious. It seems to say more about you than anything else. Could you explain to me âwokeâ and âantiwokeâ please ?
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Post by aghast on Jul 12, 2024 16:13:20 GMT
He took his oath in English and Punjabi. Sarah Green, the MP for Chesham and Amersham, took her oath in English and Welsh this week. All six of Cornwall's new MPs took their oaths in English and Cornish. Torcuil Crichton for the Scottish Isles took his oath in English and Gaelic. Presumably you're equally outraged about those but forgot to mention them. No,and why should I be..? If you can't see the difference between people taking their oaths in traditional British literature from all four corners of our isles in our Parliament and this, well the mind boggles. Their was a newly elected Muslim MP putting her hand on the quran when taking her oaths that I saw.This is a Christian country and our laws are built around Christian values. Islam is a horrible,vile religion based on hatred.There should be no bowing to it within our political system. You said 'only English should be spoken in Parliament'. Well there are numerous examples where it's not. So you don't mind exceptions to your rule if the speakers are from the UK. What about the other languages like Punjabi? Those speakers are also from the UK but not acceptable to you. Would an oath in French, or German pass your test? What about Hindi? Or is it just Muslim languages? Plenty of non Muslims speak Punjabi and Urdu. You are very confused about what you will tolerate and what you won't. You can't ban all non Christians from Parliament yet you seek to stifle British people speaking in the language of their community. Just as the Welsh and Scottish do. Would it be ok for a Jewish MP to take the oath in Hebrew? There's no logic in any of what you say except a general dislike of Muslims, apart from that nice one who's just taken charge of Reform.
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Post by aghast on Jul 12, 2024 16:15:23 GMT
How are you computing this one then lads ? Reform announces donor Muslim Zia Yusaf as new party chairman The 37-year-old entrepreneur says he will bring âexpertise, energy and passionâ to help achieve goal of âreturning Britain to greatnessâ I've already brought this up a while ago but in the spirit of conversation. Yousaf has made a major donation to Reform. He is a proud Britain and believes in Great Britain. He has stated Reform are the only party to vote for if you believe in GB and its values. He made a great speech at a Reform do,pre election infront of 7000. He's been interviewed on tv. Etc. A modern Muslim man.A Reformist. Absolutely welcome in the UK. Possibly a future MP and Reform leader. In a nutshell,a patriotic Brit that believes in our country. A brave and modern Muslim man that has put his money where his mouth is.A shining example to other Muslims that might be trying to find the courage to break free of fundamentalist Islam. A very welcome addition to the Reform Party. Oh HE'S alright then. It's the rest of the buggers you can't stand. Very convincing indeed.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 12, 2024 16:21:20 GMT
Who did this survey? Earlier in the year, before Farage took charge. For that time it might be quite accurate,but possibly Reform voters have changed,over 4,000,000 votes in GE. The Mail or Guardian ( slave paper)? BBC or GB News? Working class or middle class? Woke or antiwoke? Leaver or Remainer ( even though we're all Leavers now baby)? Stick with ECHR or leave it? Hardly earth shattering news these generalisations of voter choices. I mean it's all pretty obvious. It seems to say more about you than anything else. Could you explain to me âwokeâ and âantiwokeâ please ? Woke. Pretending to know something for absolute certainty and mess with people, that are not so sure or disagree.Try to mess with their head,to make them feel guilty or stupid or like a Nazi eg. Talk about communities,as if all eg gay people follow and support every word on LGBTQ issues.They don't. All black communities support/ed BLM.They don't . Anti or non woke. To be more individual and have the guts to point out actually 'the King is in the all together '. Like those that pointed out their mistrust of the now flawed BLM movement. Like those women standing up for their rights against the bullies of the LGBTQ demands.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 16:23:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 16:25:14 GMT
Could you explain to me âwokeâ and âantiwokeâ please ? Woke. Pretending to know something for absolute certainty and mess with people, that are not so sure or disagree.Try to mess with their head,to make them feel guilty or stupid or like a Nazi eg. Talk about communities,as if all eg gay people follow and support every word on LGBTQ issues.They don't. All black communities support/ed BLM.They don't . Anti or non woke. To be more individual and have the guts to point out actually 'the King is in the all together '. Like those that pointed out their mistrust of the now flawed BLM movement. Like those women standing up for their rights against the bullies of the LGBTQ demands. FƱck me Bas , you donât half waffle some absolute s**te ! đđđ
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Post by baselswh on Jul 12, 2024 16:26:28 GMT
I've already brought this up a while ago but in the spirit of conversation. Yousaf has made a major donation to Reform. He is a proud Britain and believes in Great Britain. He has stated Reform are the only party to vote for if you believe in GB and its values. He made a great speech at a Reform do,pre election infront of 7000. He's been interviewed on tv. Etc. A modern Muslim man.A Reformist. Absolutely welcome in the UK. Possibly a future MP and Reform leader. In a nutshell,a patriotic Brit that believes in our country. A brave and modern Muslim man that has put his money where his mouth is.A shining example to other Muslims that might be trying to find the courage to break free of fundamentalist Islam. A very welcome addition to the Reform Party. Oh HE'S alright then. It's the rest of the buggers you can't stand. Very convincing indeed. Modern and reformist Muslims are welcome. Those that support a reformation within Islam,welcome. Those biding their time to insist on Sharia Law and are open to a Caliphate, I absolutely wish they would leave the UK.Etc. That sort of thing.
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