|
Post by baselswh on Jul 12, 2024 16:28:03 GMT
Unfortunately Habib did'nt become an MP. Farage is right to change things.
|
|
trymer
Joined: November 2018
Posts: 2,241
|
Post by trymer on Jul 12, 2024 16:48:17 GMT
He took his oath in English and Punjabi. Sarah Green, the MP for Chesham and Amersham, took her oath in English and Welsh this week. All six of Cornwall's new MPs took their oaths in English and Cornish. Torcuil Crichton for the Scottish Isles took his oath in English and Gaelic. Presumably you're equally outraged about those but forgot to mention them. This is a Christian country and our laws are built around Christian values. Islam is a horrible,vile religion based on hatred.There should be no bowing to it within our political system. Although this wasnt always a christian country,when there were enough christians and the king was a christian it became a christian country and no doubt when there are enough muslims it will become a muslim country...one thing about sharia law is that the lack of prison places will no longer be an issue. As for hatred have a look at the bible every page seems full of hate or killing, hardly anyone goes to church here now but the bishops still have a lot of clout that should change too.
|
|
|
Post by baselswh on Jul 12, 2024 17:15:04 GMT
This is a Christian country and our laws are built around Christian values. Islam is a horrible,vile religion based on hatred.There should be no bowing to it within our political system. Although this wasnt always a christian country,when there were enough christians and the king was a christian it became a christian country and no doubt when there are enough muslims it will become a muslim country...one thing about sharia law is that the lack of prison places will no longer be an issue. As for hatred have a look at the bible every page seems full of hate or killing, hardly anyone goes to church here now but the bishops still have a lot of clout that should change too. The Anglican Church modernises,New Testament, not the Old Testament . A reformation the whole world is desperate for Islam to undertake.
|
|
aghast
David Williams
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 568
|
Post by aghast on Jul 12, 2024 17:52:49 GMT
Oh HE'S alright then. It's the rest of the buggers you can't stand. Very convincing indeed. Modern and reformist Muslims are welcome. Those that support a reformation within Islam,welcome. Those biding their time to insist on Sharia Law and are open to a Caliphate, I absolutely wish they would leave the UK.Etc. That sort of thing. What about the overwhelmingly vast majority of Muslims in the UK and across the world, who neither wish to reform their religion, or wish to impose Sharia law upon their home or adopted country? How do you feel about these people living in the UK and in Parliament?
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 18:27:28 GMT
Modern and reformist Muslims are welcome. Those that support a reformation within Islam,welcome. Those biding their time to insist on Sharia Law and are open to a Caliphate, I absolutely wish they would leave the UK.Etc. That sort of thing. What about the overwhelmingly vast majority of Muslims in the UK and across the world, who neither wish to reform their religion, or wish to impose Sharia law upon their home or adopted country? How do you feel about these people living in the UK and in Parliament? I used to have a friend who went down YouTube rabbit holes watching Tommy ten names videos constantly. That was about 10 yrs ago and he assured me that within 10 yrs we’d be living under shariah law. He then went onto vote for Brexit as it would be the greatest thing this country ever did etc etc 🙄 We don’t speak now .
|
|
|
Post by baselswh on Jul 12, 2024 18:38:29 GMT
Modern and reformist Muslims are welcome. Those that support a reformation within Islam,welcome. Those biding their time to insist on Sharia Law and are open to a Caliphate, I absolutely wish they would leave the UK.Etc. That sort of thing. What about the overwhelmingly vast majority of Muslims in the UK and across the world, who neither wish to reform their religion, or wish to impose Sharia law upon their home or adopted country? How do you feel about these people living in the UK and in Parliament? Islam in its current form cannot be trusted,especially now we have sectarian politics. When people are unhappy,they sometimes vote in the wrong political group. Perhaps Iran and Palestine are reasonable examples.Oldie has an experience of Persia/Iran. Muslims that for whatever reason refuse a reformation ,well there are plenty of other Islamic countries to go and live.
|
|
aghast
David Williams
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 568
|
Post by aghast on Jul 12, 2024 18:46:49 GMT
What about the overwhelmingly vast majority of Muslims in the UK and across the world, who neither wish to reform their religion, or wish to impose Sharia law upon their home or adopted country? How do you feel about these people living in the UK and in Parliament? Islam in its current form cannot be trusted,especially now we have sectarian politics. When people are unhappy,they sometimes vote in the wrong political group. Perhaps Iran and Palestine are reasonable examples.Oldie has an experience of Persia/Iran. Muslims that for whatever reason refuse a reformation ,well there are plenty of other Islamic countries to go and live. This reformation you talk about. How will you or the people you follow attempt to bring it about? You've said that those who refuse reformation can live elsewhere. What will you do with the ones who do not wish to have their religion transformed but don't wish to move to another country? This all sounds potentially rather alarming. I have visions of the knock on the door by the authorities.
|
|
oldie
Joined: September 2021
Posts: 6,341
|
Post by oldie on Jul 12, 2024 19:02:55 GMT
Oh HE'S alright then. It's the rest of the buggers you can't stand. Very convincing indeed. Modern and reformist Muslims are welcome. Those that support a reformation within Islam,welcome. Those biding their time to insist on Sharia Law and are open to a Caliphate, I absolutely wish they would leave the UK.Etc. That sort of thing. Sharia Law in the UK. It's so laughable. A Caliphate in the UK. It's nuts, absolute nuts
|
|
|
Post by baselswh on Jul 12, 2024 19:07:33 GMT
Islam in its current form cannot be trusted,especially now we have sectarian politics. When people are unhappy,they sometimes vote in the wrong political group. Perhaps Iran and Palestine are reasonable examples.Oldie has an experience of Persia/Iran. Muslims that for whatever reason refuse a reformation ,well there are plenty of other Islamic countries to go and live. This reformation you talk about. How will you or the people you follow attempt to bring it about? You've said that those who refuse reformation can live elsewhere. What will you do with the ones who do not wish to have their religion transformed but don't wish to move to another country? This all sounds potentially rather alarming. I have visions of the knock on the door by the authorities. Top Reformation Imans,top Imans of current Islam,politicians,Arch Bishop Canterbury,ECHR ( hopefully that will then be UK Court of Human Rights) etc would get their heads together. This would no doubt go on for sometime.Hopefully those that refuse change would not turn to terrorism. Eventually,those that refuse a modern Reformation ,would be given eg 5 to 10 years to leave the UK.Muslims that did not except the reformation would not be allowed to move to the UK. Once the current Islam accepted that there is work to be done to bring it up to date,then maybe negotiations might go well. Men like Maajid Nawaz could perhaps be involved. Without an Islamic Reformation UK,I'm afraid we're on a trajectory towards religous apartheid, sectarian politics and bloody violence.
|
|
|
Post by baselswh on Jul 12, 2024 19:15:42 GMT
Modern and reformist Muslims are welcome. Those that support a reformation within Islam,welcome. Those biding their time to insist on Sharia Law and are open to a Caliphate, I absolutely wish they would leave the UK.Etc. That sort of thing. Sharia Law in the UK. It's so laughable. A Caliphate in the UK. It's nuts, absolute nuts Okay,a Republic type of thing,with Islamic hard core rulers.
|
|
oldie
Joined: September 2021
Posts: 6,341
|
Post by oldie on Jul 12, 2024 19:35:27 GMT
Sharia Law in the UK. It's so laughable. A Caliphate in the UK. It's nuts, absolute nuts Okay,a Republic type of thing,with Islamic hard core rulers. Christ, you cannot be serious
|
|
|
Post by baselswh on Jul 12, 2024 19:54:53 GMT
Okay,a Republic type of thing,with Islamic hard core rulers. Christ, you cannot be serious Steady on John McEnroe. The speed the Muslim population grows at ,means these things can happen democratically now we have sectarian politics. On a larger scale this is the ambition of the Muslim Brotherhood people,a worldwide Caliphate.
|
|
|
Post by baselswh on Jul 12, 2024 20:45:48 GMT
Rupert Lowe, Reform MP for Great Yarmouth ,will be donating his entire net MP salary to charity.
Each month,a Great Yarmouth charity will recieve the Reform MPs entire net salary.
Oh and he'll prove he's donated his wages.
🇬🇧
|
|
aghast
David Williams
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 568
|
Post by aghast on Jul 12, 2024 21:40:08 GMT
This reformation you talk about. How will you or the people you follow attempt to bring it about? You've said that those who refuse reformation can live elsewhere. What will you do with the ones who do not wish to have their religion transformed but don't wish to move to another country? This all sounds potentially rather alarming. I have visions of the knock on the door by the authorities. Top Reformation Imans,top Imans of current Islam,politicians,Arch Bishop Canterbury,ECHR ( hopefully that will then be UK Court of Human Rights) etc would get their heads together. This would no doubt go on for sometime.Hopefully those that refuse change would not turn to terrorism. Eventually,those that refuse a modern Reformation ,would be given eg 5 to 10 years to leave the UK.Muslims that did not except the reformation would not be allowed to move to the UK. Once the current Islam accepted that there is work to be done to bring it up to date,then maybe negotiations might go well. Men like Maajid Nawaz could perhaps be involved. Without an Islamic Reformation UK,I'm afraid we're on a trajectory towards religous apartheid, sectarian politics and bloody violence. Crikey. You're going to expel people from the UK if they don't comply with what you deem to be an acceptable form of Islam. Once this is achieved, what's the next target in your sights?
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2024 22:14:16 GMT
These nutters live amongst us 🙄😂 Do we laugh or do we cry ?
|
|
|
Post by baselswh on Jul 13, 2024 6:28:14 GMT
Top Reformation Imans,top Imans of current Islam,politicians,Arch Bishop Canterbury,ECHR ( hopefully that will then be UK Court of Human Rights) etc would get their heads together. This would no doubt go on for sometime.Hopefully those that refuse change would not turn to terrorism. Eventually,those that refuse a modern Reformation ,would be given eg 5 to 10 years to leave the UK.Muslims that did not except the reformation would not be allowed to move to the UK. Once the current Islam accepted that there is work to be done to bring it up to date,then maybe negotiations might go well. Men like Maajid Nawaz could perhaps be involved. Without an Islamic Reformation UK,I'm afraid we're on a trajectory towards religous apartheid, sectarian politics and bloody violence. Crikey. You're going to expel people from the UK if they don't comply with what you deem to be an acceptable form of Islam. Once this is achieved, what's the next target in your sights? I think every effort should be made to create an Islamic Reformation in the UK.Eventually ( after maybe ten years) ,those Muslims that refuse the Reformation could be given a certain amount of time to leave the UK. Muslims wanting to move to the UK that refuse the new reformed Islam,would not be allowed to settle. It's better than the alternative we are on course for.
|
|
icegas
Joined: September 2014
Posts: 1,075
|
Post by icegas on Jul 13, 2024 6:32:41 GMT
Top Reformation Imans,top Imans of current Islam,politicians,Arch Bishop Canterbury,ECHR ( hopefully that will then be UK Court of Human Rights) etc would get their heads together. This would no doubt go on for sometime.Hopefully those that refuse change would not turn to terrorism. Eventually,those that refuse a modern Reformation ,would be given eg 5 to 10 years to leave the UK.Muslims that did not except the reformation would not be allowed to move to the UK. Once the current Islam accepted that there is work to be done to bring it up to date,then maybe negotiations might go well. Men like Maajid Nawaz could perhaps be involved. Without an Islamic Reformation UK,I'm afraid we're on a trajectory towards religous apartheid, sectarian politics and bloody violence. Crikey. You're going to expel people from the UK if they don't comply with what you deem to be an acceptable form of Islam. Once this is achieved, what's the next target in your sights? So would you be ok with sharia law here in the UK then? As the Islamic faith wants that and are pushing for. Genuine question there btw.?
|
|
icegas
Joined: September 2014
Posts: 1,075
|
Post by icegas on Jul 13, 2024 6:50:51 GMT
How are you computing this one then lads ? Reform announces donor Muslim Zia Yusaf as new party chairman The 37-year-old entrepreneur says he will bring ‘expertise, energy and passion’ to help achieve goal of ‘returning Britain to greatness’ Nothing wrong with Muslims, it's the Islamic faith that is the problem for me that you don't seem to see! This guy is welcome to join Reform if he buys into what it stands for.. I had a dear Muslim friend called Faruk that pasted way about 10 years ago, he was great man.He did is prayers,gave to Charity and raised his family here by working two jobs. He wasn't corrupted or brain washed by radical islam he just got on with his business.He respected this country and that it was a Christian country and our laws and spoke about Islamic preaching taught today and how backwards and medieval it is. Good Individual Muslims practicing their faith, respectful of our laws I have no problem with.But Islamic is radical and it's ideology is that of not wanting to conform, rather to take over which has happened to the west. Question? Why is there such a uprising here in the UK, France, Portugal, Germany,Spain, USA, I would say Canada but they are gone! That's not just racists coming out to play, it's because people can see that there own cultures being eradicated by Islam and MASS IMMIGRATION!!! - normal people have had enough.. Nothing I ever say is based on skin colour or racism or any hatred of Islam.I can just see the wood between the trees and calling it out.
|
|
|
Post by baselswh on Jul 13, 2024 7:21:24 GMT
Rupert Lowe, Reform MP for Great Yarmouth ,will be donating his entire net MP salary to charity. Each month,a Great Yarmouth charity will recieve the Reform MPs entire net salary. Oh and he'll prove he's donated his wages. 🇬🇧 What a superb gesture by the Reform MP.
|
|
oldie
Joined: September 2021
Posts: 6,341
|
Post by oldie on Jul 13, 2024 8:08:18 GMT
Rupert Lowe, Reform MP for Great Yarmouth ,will be donating his entire net MP salary to charity. Each month,a Great Yarmouth charity will recieve the Reform MPs entire net salary. Oh and he'll prove he's donated his wages. 🇬🇧 What a superb gesture by the Reform MP. It gets bad when you start quoting yourself
|
|