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Post by bluetornados on Oct 30, 2024 11:37:00 GMT
Rachel Reeves leaves Downing Street ahead of delivering Labour's first Budget in 14 years..by Emily Atkinson, Marita Moloney and Nathan Williamsichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/1024/cpsprodpb/398e/live/e032c990-96b0-11ef-90df-3f1823a91773.jpgChancellor Rachel Reeves is pictured with the chancellor's traditional red box ahead of delivering Labour's first Budget for 14 years She has repeatedly warned that it will involve "difficult decisions", with tax rises and spending cuts to the value of £40bn expected The chancellor has already confirmed that minimum wages will rise in April, with rates for over-21s set to go up to £12.21 an hour Reeves - the UK's first female chancellor - will give the Budget statement in the House of Commons from 12.30pm, following Prime Minister's Questions.
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 30, 2024 11:46:13 GMT
There is a big difference between what we think and what we know. I understand your anger even at the government, but that's an opinion not yet proven. It may well do but we don't know that, which is my point. Speculation is all well and good, but it won't heal wounds, bring back the poor girls or help the families grieve. It just pours more petrol onto the fire and solves nothing. It's facts and proven motivation which will determine guilt and sentence. I truly hope he spends the rest of his life in prison. This, Absolutely. What I detest almost as much as what this kid did, is people using this terrible event to vent their prejudices and unfounded opinions on social media which does nothing to resolve any inherent issues, but only serves to help them feel better about themselves. Some might call that selfish, insular, thinking. "which does nothing to resolve any inherent issues" - and therein lay the problem. The government/authorities are doing nothing to solve the inherent problem, and it is this that is pissing people off. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 30, 2024 11:49:56 GMT
Today's Budget speech. I expect to hear a lot about "tough decisions", "Tory chaos", "working people", "investment", "fixing foundations", "the poorest in society", "black hole", "change".
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Post by baselswh on Oct 30, 2024 11:59:35 GMT
Today's Budget speech. I expect to hear a lot about "tough decisions", "Tory chaos", "working people", "investment", "fixing foundations", "the poorest in society", "black hole". "14 years" |
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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2024 13:43:26 GMT
Today's Budget speech. I expect to hear a lot about "tough decisions", "Tory chaos", "working people", "investment", "fixing foundations", "the poorest in society", "black hole", "change". I heard they re-releasing the book, "The Amorous Adventures of Moll Flanders" |
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 30, 2024 14:12:58 GMT
Budget 2024: Key Points, Personal & Business taxes, Transport, Alcohol, Tobacco, Housing, Wages, Benefits & Pensions. UK Debt, Inflation and Economic Growth, Government Spending, Public Services and Other Measures... www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxl1zd07l1ouk.finance.yahoo.com/news/live/budget-2024-live-rachel-reeves-tax-debt-speech-093720254.html
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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2024 14:30:04 GMT
The view from Bloomberg
"Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves had one crucial objective in delivering the new Labour government’s first budget: To set out a viable plan that passes muster with the real overseers of the nation’s finances — the bond market. Broadly, she succeeded in that mission.”
Well done Rachel
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Post by aghast on Oct 30, 2024 17:13:58 GMT
The view from Bloomberg "Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves had one crucial objective in delivering the new Labour government’s first budget: To set out a viable plan that passes muster with the real overseers of the nation’s finances — the bond market. Broadly, she succeeded in that mission.” Well done Rachel Seemed a reasonable budget to me so well done. In the same way that the radicals on here call left of centre people traitors who hate their country, I will offer the following suggestion: the haters were desperately hoping Labour and the budget fails, so they can revel in the harm that would have been caused to 'ordinary working people" by an economic crisis. Selfish barstewards. In my time following politics I've been willing to give credit to certain Tories for a job well done. For instance, John Major for his handing of the economy and party post-Maggie, and Rishi Sunak for his management of the COVID crisis. But I doubt if we'll hear anything positive from the crew on here because they are blinded by their dogmatic views. |
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Post by Icegas on Oct 30, 2024 17:50:03 GMT
The view from Bloomberg "Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves had one crucial objective in delivering the new Labour government’s first budget: To set out a viable plan that passes muster with the real overseers of the nation’s finances — the bond market. Broadly, she succeeded in that mission.” Well done Rachel Seemed a reasonable budget to me so well done. In the same way that the radicals on here call left of centre people traitors who hate their country, I will offer the following suggestion: the haters were desperately hoping Labour and the budget fails, so they can revel in the harm that would have been caused to 'ordinary working people" by an economic crisis. Selfish barstewards. In my time following politics I've been willing to give credit to certain Tories for a job well done. For insurance, John Major for his handing of the economy and party post-Maggie, and Rishi Sunak for his management of the COVID crisis. But I doubt if we'll hear anything positive from the crew on here because they are blinded by their dogmatic views. You won't hear anything on here about it from me,as Ive never once talked economics or budgets as it doesn't interest me now. The world will tick over regardless of today. I lost all interest in any goverment promising anything in budgets after I paid 24k out of my own pocket for personal home care for my sister between 2010 - 2019, when her PIP allowance was cut back by 75% dispute her at the time needing - 24hr personal care due to going into status seizures, having no spleen,being autistic with learning difficulties, and in the last year having her bladder removed due to an evil NHS learning difficulties nurse lying about my sister a decade ago that kept a catheter in her during that time when there was no need. I challenged all this funding, and got told it was due to the growing population and goverment cutbacks. She is more stable now, but has to go to reviews each six mouth for her PIP in order to justify her need for it. Maybe this answers why I hold certain views on here... |
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 30, 2024 18:18:50 GMT
Well, in the run up to the election, the mantra trotted out by Labour was that they would fund public services by growing the economy.
I do not see any growth measures in this budget.
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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2024 19:15:18 GMT
Well, in the run up to the election, the mantra trotted out by Labour was that they would fund public services by growing the economy. I do not see any growth measures in this budget. No false promises then.. starter for ten |
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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2024 19:16:17 GMT
Seemed a reasonable budget to me so well done. In the same way that the radicals on here call left of centre people traitors who hate their country, I will offer the following suggestion: the haters were desperately hoping Labour and the budget fails, so they can revel in the harm that would have been caused to 'ordinary working people" by an economic crisis. Selfish barstewards. In my time following politics I've been willing to give credit to certain Tories for a job well done. For insurance, John Major for his handing of the economy and party post-Maggie, and Rishi Sunak for his management of the COVID crisis. But I doubt if we'll hear anything positive from the crew on here because they are blinded by their dogmatic views. You won't hear anything on here about it from me,as Ive never once talked economics or budgets as it doesn't interest me now. The world will tick over regardless of today. I lost all interest in any goverment promising anything in budgets after I paid 24k out of my own pocket for personal home care for my sister between 2010 - 2019, when her PIP allowance was cut back by 75% dispute her at the time needing - 24hr personal care due to going into status seizures, having no spleen,being autistic with learning difficulties, and in the last year having her bladder removed due to an evil NHS learning difficulties nurse lying about my sister a decade ago that kept a catheter in her during that time when there was no need. I challenged all this funding, and got told it was due to the growing population and goverment cutbacks. She is more stable now, but has to go to reviews each six mouth for her PIP in order to justify her need for it. Maybe this answers why I hold certain views on here... I feel for you. Aim your anger well. |
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Post by Icegas on Oct 30, 2024 19:40:06 GMT
You won't hear anything on here about it from me,as Ive never once talked economics or budgets as it doesn't interest me now. The world will tick over regardless of today. I lost all interest in any goverment promising anything in budgets after I paid 24k out of my own pocket for personal home care for my sister between 2010 - 2019, when her PIP allowance was cut back by 75% dispute her at the time needing - 24hr personal care due to going into status seizures, having no spleen,being autistic with learning difficulties, and in the last year having her bladder removed due to an evil NHS learning difficulties nurse lying about my sister a decade ago that kept a catheter in her during that time when there was no need. I challenged all this funding, and got told it was due to the growing population and goverment cutbacks. She is more stable now, but has to go to reviews each six mouth for her PIP in order to justify her need for it. Maybe this answers why I hold certain views on here... I feel for you. Aim your anger well. Thank you Oldie. I'm over anger now,the damage has been done so no point living in the past.But I've never directed any that I had at innocent individuals. But when people see my views on immigration and the system on here,this isn't because I'm a blind racist and bigot.I have a long line of grievances that has shape my opinions from years of bad experiences. But that's not a discussion for this thread. |
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Post by trymer on Oct 30, 2024 19:43:23 GMT
You won't hear anything on here about it from me,as Ive never once talked economics or budgets as it doesn't interest me now. The world will tick over regardless of today. I lost all interest in any goverment promising anything in budgets after I paid 24k out of my own pocket for personal home care for my sister between 2010 - 2019, when her PIP allowance was cut back by 75% dispute her at the time needing - 24hr personal care due to going into status seizures, having no spleen,being autistic with learning difficulties, and in the last year having her bladder removed due to an evil NHS learning difficulties nurse lying about my sister a decade ago that kept a catheter in her during that time when there was no need. I challenged all this funding, and got told it was due to the growing population and goverment cutbacks. She is more stable now, but has to go to reviews each six mouth for her PIP in order to justify her need for it. Maybe this answers why I hold certain views on here... Aim your anger well. At the NHS that needs reform rather than vast amounts of money chucked at it . |
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Post by trymer on Oct 30, 2024 19:44:25 GMT
Today's Budget speech. I expect to hear a lot about "tough decisions", "Tory chaos", "working people", "investment", "fixing foundations", "the poorest in society", "black hole". "14 years" In the first minute of the speech ! |
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Post by trymer on Oct 30, 2024 19:47:06 GMT
Yes,you will save hundreds of pounds a year with that penny off of a pint. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2024 19:49:26 GMT
Yes,you will save hundreds of pounds a year with that penny off of a pint. Amazing How long have you been a dick head or were you born this way? |
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Post by trymer on Oct 30, 2024 19:53:36 GMT
Yes,you will save hundreds of pounds a year with that penny off of a pint. Amazing How long have you been a dick head or were you born this way? Well ,when in Rome.....anyway attack the post not the poster,its a rule and I dont want you getting banned before your holiday. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2024 20:02:18 GMT
Amazing How long have you been a dick head or were you born this way? Well ,when in Rome.....anyway attack the post not the poster,its a rule and I dont want you getting banned before your holiday. Ok Let's do it What evidence do you, or can you, provide for this assertion "Yes,you will save hundreds of pounds a year with that penny off of a pint." Go on |
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Post by baldrick on Oct 30, 2024 22:08:39 GMT
Amazing How long have you been a dick head or were you born this way? Well ,when in Rome.....anyway attack the post not the poster,its a rule and I dont want you getting banned before your holiday. That's ironic. 🤭 |
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