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Post by Icegas on Oct 29, 2024 19:21:05 GMT
By proper government, who listened and responded to today's world and this country instead of being self serving, career politicians following the woke agenda.This is from the justice system, the media and the cops down on the streets. Pull up the drawbridge on any immigration now given todays press release, ban any kind of radical Islam and remove them from this country if they follow it. They want another reaction by us, people like you and me who are not racist - nor will ever be, but are only concerned citizens talking up about this and have the balls to bring this up. They released this today as they know that there are people in this country who are waiting to exploed after the summer and yesterday.They want a reaction...and I sincerely hope that they don't get one. They are pushing a racial and civil war. Myself, personally have never been more frustrated on this forum then in the last 48 hours by ignorant, and just plan arrogant and un educated discourse on here given on certain subjects. Oh, the irony Gas are 1-0 down.
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Post by baldrick on Oct 29, 2024 19:36:22 GMT
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Post by Icegas on Oct 29, 2024 19:46:24 GMT
Oh the ironing...πββοΈ
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Post by baldrick on Oct 29, 2024 19:52:40 GMT
Oh the ironing...πββοΈ Feeling flat or just board? π
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Post by Icegas on Oct 29, 2024 20:00:11 GMT
Oh the ironing...πββοΈ Feeling flat or just board? π I'm cooking a pork roast currently,was going to have beef but there wasn't any...and enjoying a few beers as off tomorrow. Why would I be flat? I'm half watching the Gas draw against Weston-super-Mare while in and out of the kitchen. π
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Post by oldie on Oct 29, 2024 20:12:05 GMT
Feeling flat or just board? π I'm cooking a pork roast currently,was going to have beef but there wasn't any...and enjoying a few beers as off tomorrow. Why would I be flat? I'm half watching the Gas draw against Weston-super-Mare while in and out of the kitchen. π Christ, you are watching the game in advance?? πππ
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Post by baldrick on Oct 29, 2024 20:16:39 GMT
Feeling flat or just board? π I'm cooking a pork roast currently,was going to have beef but there wasn't any...and enjoying a few beers as off tomorrow. Why would I be flat? I'm half watching the Gas draw against Weston-super-Mare while in and out of the kitchen. π You said "ironing". They were puns, never mind.
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Post by Icegas on Oct 29, 2024 20:18:58 GMT
I'm cooking a pork roast currently,was going to have beef but there wasn't any...and enjoying a few beers as off tomorrow. Why would I be flat? I'm half watching the Gas draw against Weston-super-Mare while in and out of the kitchen. π Christ, you are watching the game in advance?? πππ It's amazing.π€ But is it normal for the mare to have a donkey up front? As you a knowledgeable guy on most fronts... Get the pun...π«‘ The sea.... hotels, seagulls s**tting on brummies...anyway..π I'm getting decent at this sarcasm and humour thing won't you admit? Never will be be Brean level tho.
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Post by Icegas on Oct 29, 2024 20:19:33 GMT
I'm cooking a pork roast currently,was going to have beef but there wasn't any...and enjoying a few beers as off tomorrow. Why would I be flat? I'm half watching the Gas draw against Weston-super-Mare while in and out of the kitchen. π You said "ironing". They were puns, never mind. I'm aware of what I said....π€£
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Post by oldie on Oct 29, 2024 20:29:22 GMT
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Post by Icegas on Oct 29, 2024 20:51:05 GMT
What's not so funny is you all called myself and others on here that questioned the Southport attackers background as just being right wing racists. (Not just aimed at you Oldie btw..) They,the media told us he was a Christian....That he was mentally ill ( I completely agree he is..) You..by them, then told us it wasnβt terror related..You, then by them...called us racist because we questioned this story. Where is the debate about that on here tonight..? None of you will,or can you justify your actions during the summer after this attack in regards to us that questioned it and the abuse we got for it. That's no funny sir.. They lied to us, and you - and they fooled you.. The "they" I'm talking about are the Government and media. Shame on you all.
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Post by baldrick on Oct 29, 2024 21:34:50 GMT
What's not so funny is you all called myself and others on here that questioned the Southport attackers background as just being right wing racists. (Not just aimed at you Oldie btw..) They,the media told us he was a Christian....That he was mentally ill ( I completely agree he is..) You..by them, then told us it wasnβt terror related..You, then by them...called us racist because we questioned this story. Where is the debate about that on here tonight..? None of you will,or can you justify your actions during the summer after this attack in regards to us that questioned it and the abuse we got for it. That's no funny sir.. They lied to us, and you - and they fooled you.. The "they" I'm talking about are the Government and media. Shame on you all. The motivation for the attack hasn't been determined, at the moment these new charges are separate until otherwise confirmed. The speculation at the time was that he was a Muslim immigrant with his name mentioned, none of which were true. That was what sparked the riots. If you read what I wrote at the time, it was that we don't know and shouldn't speculate until we knew more. That is still the case. As for being lied to by the media and government, this is a live investigation so they only go by what the police and CPS find. There is more to this story, the whole truth will be told eventually.
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Post by oldie on Oct 29, 2024 21:45:24 GMT
What's not so funny is you all called myself and others on here that questioned the Southport attackers background as just being right wing racists. (Not just aimed at you Oldie btw..) They,the media told us he was a Christian....That he was mentally ill ( I completely agree he is..) You..by them, then told us it wasnβt terror related..You, then by them...called us racist because we questioned this story. Where is the debate about that on here tonight..? None of you will,or can you justify your actions during the summer after this attack in regards to us that questioned it and the abuse we got for it. That's no funny sir.. They lied to us, and you - and they fooled you.. The "they" I'm talking about are the Government and media. Shame on you all. The motivation for the attack hasn't been determined, at the moment these new charges are separate until otherwise confirmed. The speculation at the time was that he was a Muslim immigrant with his name mentioned, none of which were true. That was what sparked the riots. If you read what I wrote at the time, it was that we don't know and shouldn't speculate until we knew more. That is still the case. As for being lied to by the media and government, this is a live investigation so they only go by what the police and CPS find. There is more to this story, the whole truth will be told eventually. The voice of reason, amongst the hysteria
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Post by Icegas on Oct 30, 2024 7:28:36 GMT
What's not so funny is you all called myself and others on here that questioned the Southport attackers background as just being right wing racists. (Not just aimed at you Oldie btw..) They,the media told us he was a Christian....That he was mentally ill ( I completely agree he is..) You..by them, then told us it wasnβt terror related..You, then by them...called us racist because we questioned this story. Where is the debate about that on here tonight..? None of you will,or can you justify your actions during the summer after this attack in regards to us that questioned it and the abuse we got for it. That's no funny sir.. They lied to us, and you - and they fooled you.. The "they" I'm talking about are the Government and media. Shame on you all. The motivation for the attack hasn't been determined, at the moment these new charges are separate until otherwise confirmed. The speculation at the time was that he was a Muslim immigrant with his name mentioned, none of which were true. That was what sparked the riots. If you read what I wrote at the time, it was that we don't know and shouldn't speculate until we knew more. That is still the case. As for being lied to by the media and government, this is a live investigation so they only go by what the police and CPS find. There is more to this story, the whole truth will be told eventually. β "The motivation for the attack hasn't been determined, at the moment these new charges are separate until otherwise confirmed." But Balrick, come on we both know the outcome of this.The police wouldn't have been forced to announce this otherwise. β "The speculation at the time was that he was a Muslim immigrant with his name mentioned, none of which were true. That was what sparked the riots." No, it was sparked by 20 years of this country being under attack and people, rightly or wrongly reacted to the killing of three babies. After the news yesterday it's is clear he was a Islamic terrorist given what the police found so the public reaction was right, but not the riots. β "If you read what I wrote at the time, it was that we don't know and shouldn't speculate until we knew more. That is still the case." I will agree with that, as without looking back I'm 99% sure you did. That didn't stop others calling myself and others racist,or far right for saying something that was clearly going to be announced at some point,and that was yesterday and just the beginning. β "As for being lied to by the media and government, this is a live investigation so they only go by what the police and CPS find." We've done that..and they covered up the real story,and told apart of it yesterday. Why should we trust an clearly corrupt system again? How can we trust a group that said it wasn't a terrorist attack a few hours after the act? How can we support their judgement? β "There is more to this story, the whole truth will be told eventually." Agreed,but the damage would already have been done.
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Post by Icegas on Oct 30, 2024 7:32:54 GMT
The motivation for the attack hasn't been determined, at the moment these new charges are separate until otherwise confirmed. The speculation at the time was that he was a Muslim immigrant with his name mentioned, none of which were true. That was what sparked the riots. If you read what I wrote at the time, it was that we don't know and shouldn't speculate until we knew more. That is still the case. As for being lied to by the media and government, this is a live investigation so they only go by what the police and CPS find. There is more to this story, the whole truth will be told eventually. The voice of reason, amongst the hysteria You say the same thing over and over again without any substance, or being advantageous to a conversation. It's an interesting strategy.
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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2024 7:44:27 GMT
The voice of reason, amongst the hysteria You say the same thing over and over again without any substance, or being advantageous to a conversation. It's an interesting strategy. ππ So I quote a post, compliment it and it's words. Ummmm....confused I think you are
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Post by Icegas on Oct 30, 2024 8:18:20 GMT
You say the same thing over and over again without any substance, or being advantageous to a conversation. It's an interesting strategy. ππ So I quote a post, compliment it and it's words. Ummmm....confused I think you are No your just repetitive in your words and responses, with hidden insults in them...They just lack any kind of sugar on them as you execute today.
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Post by baldrick on Oct 30, 2024 9:42:25 GMT
The motivation for the attack hasn't been determined, at the moment these new charges are separate until otherwise confirmed. The speculation at the time was that he was a Muslim immigrant with his name mentioned, none of which were true. That was what sparked the riots. If you read what I wrote at the time, it was that we don't know and shouldn't speculate until we knew more. That is still the case. As for being lied to by the media and government, this is a live investigation so they only go by what the police and CPS find. There is more to this story, the whole truth will be told eventually. β "The motivation for the attack hasn't been determined, at the moment these new charges are separate until otherwise confirmed." But Balrick, come on we both know the outcome of this.The police wouldn't have been forced to announce this otherwise. β "The speculation at the time was that he was a Muslim immigrant with his name mentioned, none of which were true. That was what sparked the riots." No, it was sparked by 20 years of this country being under attack and people, rightly or wrongly reacted to the killing of three babies. After the news yesterday it's is clear he was a Islamic terrorist given what the police found so the public reaction was right, but not the riots. β "If you read what I wrote at the time, it was that we don't know and shouldn't speculate until we knew more. That is still the case." I will agree with that, as without looking back I'm 99% sure you did. That didn't stop others calling myself and others racist,or far right for saying something that was clearly going to be announced at some point,and that was yesterday and just the beginning. β "As for being lied to by the media and government, this is a live investigation so they only go by what the police and CPS find." We've done that..and they covered up the real story,and told apart of it yesterday. Why should we trust an clearly corrupt system again? How can we trust a group that said it wasn't a terrorist attack a few hours after the act? How can we support their judgement? β "There is more to this story, the whole truth will be told eventually." Agreed,but the damage would already have been done. There is a big difference between what we think and what we know. I understand your anger even at the government, but that's an opinion not yet proven. It may well do but we don't know that, which is my point. Speculation is all well and good, but it won't heal wounds, bring back the poor girls or help the families grieve. It just pours more petrol onto the fire and solves nothing. It's facts and proven motivation which will determine guilt and sentence. I truly hope he spends the rest of his life in prison.
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Post by Icegas on Oct 30, 2024 10:14:38 GMT
β "The motivation for the attack hasn't been determined, at the moment these new charges are separate until otherwise confirmed." But Balrick, come on we both know the outcome of this.The police wouldn't have been forced to announce this otherwise. β "The speculation at the time was that he was a Muslim immigrant with his name mentioned, none of which were true. That was what sparked the riots." No, it was sparked by 20 years of this country being under attack and people, rightly or wrongly reacted to the killing of three babies. After the news yesterday it's is clear he was a Islamic terrorist given what the police found so the public reaction was right, but not the riots. β "If you read what I wrote at the time, it was that we don't know and shouldn't speculate until we knew more. That is still the case." I will agree with that, as without looking back I'm 99% sure you did. That didn't stop others calling myself and others racist,or far right for saying something that was clearly going to be announced at some point,and that was yesterday and just the beginning. β "As for being lied to by the media and government, this is a live investigation so they only go by what the police and CPS find." We've done that..and they covered up the real story,and told apart of it yesterday. Why should we trust an clearly corrupt system again? How can we trust a group that said it wasn't a terrorist attack a few hours after the act? How can we support their judgement? β "There is more to this story, the whole truth will be told eventually." Agreed,but the damage would already have been done. There is a big difference between what we think and what we know. I understand your anger even at the government, but that's an opinion not yet proven. It may well do but we don't know that, which is my point. Speculation is all well and good, but it won't heal wounds, bring back the poor girls or help the families grieve. It just pours more petrol onto the fire and solves nothing. It's facts and proven motivation which will determine guilt and sentence. I truly hope he spends the rest of his life in prison. I agree Balrick, but I'm not stirring anything up on here.Im not a violent man, nor would I ever encourage it. But the facts were clear from day one, but no one wanted to admit them apart from those that then did and were then called far right by our own EVIL Prime minister for doing so! It didn't take a much to work this out, not because I was being intolerant of immigrates, but rather just connecting the dots of the problems we face. I get your position of saying let's just see until we can prove what his motivation was, it's the PC, nice guy approach to have. But you don't kill 3 girls,and have the material he was later found out with unless what I'm saying is right! You know...as does everyone on here, now know what this 'things' intentions were. He killed 3 girls,then has been charged with the production of a biological toxin under Section 58 of the Terrorism Act. And Tommy Robinson could also face doing more time for failing to give the police pin to his phone under the same act..
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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2024 10:16:20 GMT
β "The motivation for the attack hasn't been determined, at the moment these new charges are separate until otherwise confirmed." But Balrick, come on we both know the outcome of this.The police wouldn't have been forced to announce this otherwise. β "The speculation at the time was that he was a Muslim immigrant with his name mentioned, none of which were true. That was what sparked the riots." No, it was sparked by 20 years of this country being under attack and people, rightly or wrongly reacted to the killing of three babies. After the news yesterday it's is clear he was a Islamic terrorist given what the police found so the public reaction was right, but not the riots. β "If you read what I wrote at the time, it was that we don't know and shouldn't speculate until we knew more. That is still the case." I will agree with that, as without looking back I'm 99% sure you did. That didn't stop others calling myself and others racist,or far right for saying something that was clearly going to be announced at some point,and that was yesterday and just the beginning. β "As for being lied to by the media and government, this is a live investigation so they only go by what the police and CPS find." We've done that..and they covered up the real story,and told apart of it yesterday. Why should we trust an clearly corrupt system again? How can we trust a group that said it wasn't a terrorist attack a few hours after the act? How can we support their judgement? β "There is more to this story, the whole truth will be told eventually." Agreed,but the damage would already have been done. There is a big difference between what we think and what we know. I understand your anger even at the government, but that's an opinion not yet proven. It may well do but we don't know that, which is my point. Speculation is all well and good, but it won't heal wounds, bring back the poor girls or help the families grieve. It just pours more petrol onto the fire and solves nothing. It's facts and proven motivation which will determine guilt and sentence. I truly hope he spends the rest of his life in prison. This, Absolutely. What I detest almost as much as what this kid did, is people using this terrible event to vent their prejudices and unfounded opinions on social media which does nothing to resolve any inherent issues, but only serves to help them feel better about themselves. Some might call that selfish, insular, thinking.
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