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Post by baldrick on Jul 23, 2024 12:32:48 GMT
Good. MPs should be salaried sufficiently to not need a second job. If they want to keep their hand in with professions like lawyers and doctors, then it should be voluntary. I'd also stop them from taking directorships for at least a further parliament on leaving. Not sure,but I think the PM carried on working as a Lawyer and an MP for some time. You might think he'll be against stopping it. Maybe, as did a previous Conservative Attorney General, and no doubt many others. Doesn't make it a bad idea or one aimed at particular MPs. |
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Post by baselswh on Jul 23, 2024 12:36:38 GMT
Not sure,but I think the PM carried on working as a Lawyer and an MP for some time. You might think he'll be against stopping it. Maybe, as did a previous Conservative Attorney General, and no doubt many others. Doesn't make it a bad idea or one aimed at particular MPs. Agreed,but as he's the 'Boss'. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 23, 2024 13:05:23 GMT
Apparently there has been some consideration given to stopping MPs having a second job. I don't think this will happen, unless Labour are spiteful and worried enough by Reform ,to stop Farage working on GB News. Good. MPs should be salaried sufficiently to not need a second job. If they want to keep their hand in with professions like lawyers and doctors, then it should be voluntary. I'd also stop them from taking directorships for at least a further parliament on leaving. Agreed Baldrick. Many MPs do pro bono free work while as MPs to keep their hand in. Others like Fiona Bruce, our former MP, can make up to £600k in a year from other roles. Stopping directorships would be a problem for Richard Tice and Nigel Farage as the Reform Party is a Limited Company of which they are directors and not a political party. 'Members' subscriptions go straight into turnover for the benefit of the company not Reform members. RT and NF amongst 2 others can take those subscriptions as dividends or even wages if they so wished, dependent on profits. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 23, 2024 13:09:07 GMT
Maybe, as did a previous Conservative Attorney General, and no doubt many others. Doesn't make it a bad idea or one aimed at particular MPs. Agreed, but as he's the 'Boss'. Various sources indicate that Kier Starmer stepped down from the CPS in 2013 becoming an MP in 2015. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 23, 2024 13:10:00 GMT
Good. MPs should be salaried sufficiently to not need a second job. If they want to keep their hand in with professions like lawyers and doctors, then it should be voluntary. I'd also stop them from taking directorships for at least a further parliament on leaving. Agreed Baldrick. Many MPs do pro bono free work while as MPs to keep their hand in. Others like Fiona Bruce, our former MP, can make up to £600k in a year from other roles. Stopping directorships would be a problem for Richard Tice and Nigel Farage as the Reform Party is a Limited Company of which they are directors and not a political party. 'Members' subscriptions go straight into turnover for the benefit of the company not Reform members. RT and NF amongst 2 others can take those subscriptions as dividends or even wages if they so wished, dependent on profits. Thank you Cheshire. I tried pointing this out before but Reform supporters just shouted at me "what about the Lib Dems" (ltd by guarantee) |
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 25, 2024 14:43:20 GMT
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Treasury urges Chancellor to target pension savings of 6m middle-class workers. Rachel Reeves will be urged to raid the pension savings of up to 6m middle-class workers in plans presented by Treasury officials ahead of her first Budget
As anticipated by some prior to the election. And again it is likely the lower paid will be the ones to suffer
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 25, 2024 17:57:19 GMT
a... Related to the article Rachel Reeves pension Pension tax relief Pension News Tax news Rachel Reeves Treasury urges Chancellor to target pension savings of 6m middle-class workers. Rachel Reeves will be urged to raid the pension savings of up to 6m middle-class workers in plans presented by Treasury officials ahead of her first Budget As anticipated by some prior to the election. And again it is likely the lower paid will be the ones to suffer So it is the Treasury recommending pension changes not party policy as many have made out.... |
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Post by oldie on Jul 25, 2024 18:22:56 GMT
a... Related to the article Rachel Reeves pension Pension tax relief Pension News Tax news Rachel Reeves Treasury urges Chancellor to target pension savings of 6m middle-class workers. Rachel Reeves will be urged to raid the pension savings of up to 6m middle-class workers in plans presented by Treasury officials ahead of her first Budget As anticipated by some prior to the election. And again it is likely the lower paid will be the ones to suffer So it is the Treasury recommending pension changes not party policy as many have made out.... 🤫😧 |
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 25, 2024 18:53:58 GMT
a... Related to the article Rachel Reeves pension Pension tax relief Pension News Tax news Rachel Reeves Treasury urges Chancellor to target pension savings of 6m middle-class workers. Rachel Reeves will be urged to raid the pension savings of up to 6m middle-class workers in plans presented by Treasury officials ahead of her first Budget As anticipated by some prior to the election. And again it is likely the lower paid will be the ones to suffer So it is the Treasury recommending pension changes not party policy as many have made out.... Seemingly so....if that is the case now,,after the election, why would the treasury not have said prior to it.... pressure from the then government ,not to announce it...or pressure from the present government to say it's from YOUR department.....circle time .. questions for answers.... answers for questions 🤔 |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 25, 2024 21:50:42 GMT
So it is the Treasury recommending pension changes not party policy as many have made out.... Seemingly so....if that is the case now,,after the election, why would the treasury not have said prior to it.... pressure from the then government ,not to announce it...or pressure from the present government to say it's from YOUR department.....circle time .. questions for answers.... answers for questions 🤔 My understanding is that the Government has asked each department to give a form of 'state of the nation' report on how they are currently standing financially and fiscally. In other words, asking rather than telling. By the sounds of it, it is not going to make good reading..... |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 29, 2024 11:47:06 GMT
Labour to offer the Junior Doctor's a 22% pay rise. Now expect a flood of similar demands from others sectors/unions. This will not help control inflation.
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Post by oldie on Jul 29, 2024 11:58:06 GMT
Labour to offer the Junior Doctor's a 22% pay rise. Now expect a flood of similar demands from others sectors/unions. This will not help control inflation. Over two years |
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Post by baldrick on Jul 29, 2024 12:45:03 GMT
Consultants had a decent rise back in April, 6% plus add ons such as a 2.85% uplift for some. A few will benefit by almost as much.
In terms of this award, two things spring to mind; firstly this just abouts brings pay back to 2010 levels, and secondly, the cost of further industry action has to be factored in. It's one of those areas with real tangible downsides affecting the public.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 29, 2024 14:45:11 GMT
Labour to offer the Junior Doctor's a 22% pay rise. Now expect a flood of similar demands from others sectors/unions. This will not help control inflation. The cost of the disputes to the NHS was far in excess of the amount that such a rise would have cost. The last Government wanted to keep the disputes going as they then had someone to blame for the increasing waiting lists, as they did do. The health of the nation is important to productivity and the economy. It make sense to keep the NHS going, to fill vacancies by attracting people to the job, hence speeding up consultancy appointments, surgical operations, rehabilitation etc and get sick people back to work. Most sick people want to get back earning. Increasing waiting lists from 2 million in total in 2010 to over 7.5 million in May 2024 has been severely damaging to the economy. The plan to force people to go private hasn't worked and the people who have promoted a USA style system while themselves investing in those private companies like Sunak, Hunt, etc have failed the country. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 29, 2024 15:23:29 GMT
Labour to offer the Junior Doctor's a 22% pay rise. Now expect a flood of similar demands from others sectors/unions. This will not help control inflation. The cost of the disputes to the NHS was far in excess of the amount that such a rise would have cost. The last Government wanted to keep the disputes going as they then had someone to blame for the increasing waiting lists, as they did do. The health of the nation is important to productivity and the economy. It make sense to keep the NHS going, to fill vacancies by attracting people to the job, hence speeding up consultancy appointments, surgical operations, rehabilitation etc and get sick people back to work. Most sick people want to get back earning. Increasing waiting lists from 2 million in total in 2010 to over 7.5 million in May 2024 has been severely damaging to the economy. The plan to force people to go private hasn't worked and the people who have promoted a USA style system while themselves investing in those private companies like Sunak, Hunt, etc have failed the country. "The plan to force people to go private hasn't worked and the people who have promoted a USA style system while themselves investing in those private companies like Sunak, Hunt, etc have failed the country." - Nobody but nobody has promoted a health system like in the US. That really is just Project Fear all over again. "The cost of the disputes to the NHS was far in excess of the amount that such a rise would have cost." - What about the cost to the country as more unions will now threaten strike action, knowing that the government will cave in. That will damage the economy and force up inflation, affecting us all. The NHS will not improve one iota because of this pay deal, and we all know it. Defence has a Strategic Review every few years. It's about time we had a Strategic Review of the NHS ! |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 29, 2024 15:44:41 GMT
The cost of the disputes to the NHS was far in excess of the amount that such a rise would have cost. The last Government wanted to keep the disputes going as they then had someone to blame for the increasing waiting lists, as they did do. The health of the nation is important to productivity and the economy. It make sense to keep the NHS going, to fill vacancies by attracting people to the job, hence speeding up consultancy appointments, surgical operations, rehabilitation etc and get sick people back to work. Most sick people want to get back earning. Increasing waiting lists from 2 million in total in 2010 to over 7.5 million in May 2024 has been severely damaging to the economy. The plan to force people to go private hasn't worked and the people who have promoted a USA style system while themselves investing in those private companies like Sunak, Hunt, etc have failed the country. "The plan to force people to go private hasn't worked and the people who have promoted a USA style system while themselves investing in those private companies like Sunak, Hunt, etc have failed the country." - Nobody but nobody has promoted a health system like in the US. That really is just Project Fear all over again. "The cost of the disputes to the NHS was far in excess of the amount that such a rise would have cost." - What about the cost to the country as more unions will now threaten strike action, knowing that the government will cave in. That will damage the economy and force up inflation, affecting us all. The NHS will not improve one iota because of this pay deal, and we all know it. Defence has a Strategic Review every few years. It's about time we had a Strategic Review of the NHS ! I presume you are aware that the Conservative Government held talks in 2021 and onwards including Rishi Sunak, with US private equity companies about greater involvement in the UK NHS? Palantir has been taking a greater and greater role in NHS IT systems. Infosys [Sunak's father-in-law's company has also gained huge contracts within the NHS]. A number of GP group practices are owned by US investors. Nigel Farage, at least, was honest enough to promote out loud a US health type service in the UK although since much criticism he has backtracked and now saying we should have a French style system. [https://leftfootforward.org/2024/06/nigel-farage-says-nhs-should-be-abolished-in-its-current-form/] You say - The NHS will not improve one iota because of this pay deal, and we all know it. How do you know 'we all know it'.... I do agree that there should be a non political Strategic Review of the NHS, and it should be very wide ranging, including the abuse and time wasting of the system by the public, private investment and its poor track record and wide profit margins, the wide ranging use of external consultants such as McKinseys who are a waste of time, the failure of NHS wide use of IT, the Trust system which has made the healthcare system a postcode lottery, 7 day use of surgery theatres and MRI/CT scanners, etc. We need a full review of duplication of management, HR and IT systems across Trusts, etc. Further the over whelming duplication of forms and reporting needs to be dealt with. |
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 29, 2024 16:22:14 GMT
Winter fuel payments scrapped for pensioners not on benefits, Rachel Reeves announces..by Francesca Gillett and Sean Seddonichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/1024/cpsprodpb/6241/live/a9366ea0-4db9-11ef-b2d2-cdb23d5d7c5b.jpgChancellor Rachel Reeves says winter fuel payments will now be restricted to those on pension credits or other means-tested benefits She says the Labour government has inherited a projected overspend of £22bn from the Conservatives The projected overspend on the asylum system, including the Rwanda plan that Labour has now scrapped, was more than £6.4bn for this year alone, she says She has also cancelled some road and rail projects - including the tunnel under Stonehenge Reeves also confirmed the government has made a 22% two-year pay offer to junior doctors. Teachers and NHS workers will also get a 5.5% rise Shadow chancellor Jeremy Hunt (below) says Reeves is "shameless" in paving the way for tax rises - and October's Budget will be a "biggest betrayal in history by a new chancellor" ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/7/29/617bf734-e4d0-4248-bbe0-3f9c3ed1a065.jpg
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 29, 2024 17:03:06 GMT
Rachel Reeves, "Upon my arrival at the Treasury three weeks ago there were things I did not know, things the party opposite covered up"
"Covered up from the opposition.. Covered up from this house.. Covered up from the country"
"The total pressure on budgets across a range of areas was an additional £35 billion"
"Once you account for slippage in budget and a reserve of £9 billion, it means, we have inherited a projected over spend of £22 billion"
"Not in the future, now. A £22 billion hole now.. That was covered up by the party opposite"
"If left unaddressed, it would mean a 25% increase in the budget deficit this year"
"The reserve, spent three times over, only 3 months into the financial year, and they told no-one"
"Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt claimed the books were open how dare they"
"There are clear instances of specific budgets were overspent... And crucially the OBR was not aware of their forecast"
For those who will, no doubt, say she is lying, the latter point about the OBR is highly relevant.
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Post by oldie on Jul 29, 2024 17:19:41 GMT
Rachel Reeves, "Upon my arrival at the Treasury three weeks ago there were things I did not know, things the party opposite covered up"
"Covered up from the opposition.. Covered up from this house.. Covered up from the country"
"The total pressure on budgets across a range of areas was an additional £35 billion"
"Once you account for slippage in budget and a reserve of £9 billion, it means, we have inherited a projected over spend of £22 billion"
"Not in the future, now. A £22 billion hole now.. That was covered up by the party opposite"
"If left unaddressed, it would mean a 25% increase in the budget deficit this year"
"The reserve, spent three times over, only 3 months into the financial year, and they told no-one"
"Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt claimed the books were open how dare they"
"There are clear instances of specific budgets were overspent... And crucially the OBR was not aware of their forecast"
For those who will, no doubt, say she is lying, the latter point about the OBR is highly relevant. Absolutely Cheshire It appears we have a fiscally conservative chancellor but guided by what the electorate most value. More than happy to give up my £300 a year (untested) and actually the reasons for the triple lock have gone by. We are broke, and the Tories broke us |
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Post by baldrick on Jul 29, 2024 17:21:11 GMT
Rachel Reeves, "Upon my arrival at the Treasury three weeks ago there were things I did not know, things the party opposite covered up"
"Covered up from the opposition.. Covered up from this house.. Covered up from the country"
"The total pressure on budgets across a range of areas was an additional £35 billion"
"Once you account for slippage in budget and a reserve of £9 billion, it means, we have inherited a projected over spend of £22 billion"
"Not in the future, now. A £22 billion hole now.. That was covered up by the party opposite"
"If left unaddressed, it would mean a 25% increase in the budget deficit this year"
"The reserve, spent three times over, only 3 months into the financial year, and they told no-one"
"Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt claimed the books were open how dare they"
"There are clear instances of specific budgets were overspent... And crucially the OBR was not aware of their forecast"
For those who will, no doubt, say she is lying, the latter point about the OBR is highly relevant. That's quite an accusation. I know many dismiss the OBR when it suits, but not even involving them doesn't look good especially as it was set up by a Conservative Chancellor for these precise reasons. |
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