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Post by baselswh on Sept 6, 2024 17:30:32 GMT
Ministers won't deny GB may rent prison space off Estonia.
So,Labour won't send foreign invaders to Rwanda,but our criminals may go to Estonia to do their time for King Charlie.
What a mess our country is.
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 6, 2024 17:55:00 GMT
Yvette Cooper spoke to the media after the "Smash the boats" meeting. She told us how serious the situat6is and little else. On being twice asked 'where will the 100,000 in hotels go',she did'nt say. Sounds like bad news for Britons on the council housing list,as the queue jumpers will be queue jumping once again. That'll be young men that hate gays,our culture,music,food etc,treat women badly and some will be rapists,murderers and terrorists. Hamas supporters,ISIS supporters.Etc etc. Yes A culmination of 14 years of Tory gross incompetence...terrible isn't it. Instigated by the former East German,and friendly ðŸ¤Ms Merkel....a lot of people,including a good part of the German nation detest this woman for what she set in motion
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Post by baselswh on Sept 6, 2024 17:56:43 GMT
Yes A culmination of 14 years of Tory gross incompetence...terrible isn't it. Instigated by the former East German,and friendly ðŸ¤Ms Merkel....a lot of people,including a good part of the German nation detest this woman for what she set in motion Blair,Mandelson, Brown and that b'stard adviser to Blair played a significant role in this mess too.
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Post by oldie on Sept 6, 2024 21:38:29 GMT
Yes A culmination of 14 years of Tory gross incompetence...terrible isn't it. Instigated by the former East German,and friendly ðŸ¤Ms Merkel....a lot of people,including a good part of the German nation detest this woman for what she set in motion Anyone but our own government eh...
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 7, 2024 7:32:20 GMT
Instigated by the former East German,and friendly ðŸ¤Ms Merkel....a lot of people,including a good part of the German nation detest this woman for what she set in motion Anyone but our own government eh... Well..did she or otherwise...? No good putting up your Labour bitter pill here on this.....
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Post by oldie on Sept 7, 2024 8:28:42 GMT
Anyone but our own government eh... Well..did she or otherwise...? No good putting up your Labour bitter pill here on this..... That's between the Germans and their Government. Nothing to do with a UK government elected two months ago after 14 years of Tory rule. Try another one
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Post by trymer on Sept 7, 2024 8:31:29 GMT
Anyone but our own government eh... Well..did she or otherwise...? No good putting up your Labour bitter pill here on this..... You are of course correct, plus Blair admitted on his radio 4 book plug interview that his governments immigration policies had caused 'problems'.
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 7, 2024 9:18:21 GMT
Well..did she or otherwise...? No good putting up your Labour bitter pill here on this..... That's between the Germans and their Government. Nothing to do with a UK government elected two months ago after 14 years of Tory rule. Try another one Let's just face up to it ..as Germany ' run' the EU it is a policy that has been swamped by the members and former member states,and somewhere along the lines the UK were part of that ' old boys club's ...and as I have mentioned previously when she first implemented her open door policy, a lot of Germany was in uproar about it, ..the difference now being there is no real control on the European shores,or seemingly willingness to stop the boats, despite millions being thrown at France to ' aid the Gengarme in the difficulties of stopping them 'a case of get them out of here' . set them sail to the UK,and now the Labour party can see exactly what it is,and they ,like the Conservatives can't do a thing about it, only talk,no real solutions.
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Post by francegas on Sept 7, 2024 9:31:27 GMT
So Labour remove the winter fuel allowance for millions of pensions, the rumour doing the rounds now is they are planning to remove the single person council tax allowance (something Angie did not deny when questioned on this subject) hitting again pensioners who are widows or widowers.
Anyone else think Labour really hate pensioners?
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Post by oldie on Sept 7, 2024 10:46:41 GMT
So Labour remove the winter fuel allowance for millions of pensions, the rumour doing the rounds now is they are planning to remove the single person council tax allowance (something Angie did not deny when questioned on this subject) hitting again pensioners who are widows or widowers. Anyone else think Labour really hate pensioners? You seen the state of local authority finances?
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Post by oldie on Sept 7, 2024 10:54:17 GMT
That's between the Germans and their Government. Nothing to do with a UK government elected two months ago after 14 years of Tory rule. Try another one Let's just face up to it ..as Germany ' run' the EU it is a policy that has been swamped by the members and former member states,and somewhere along the lines the UK were part of that ' old boys club's ...and as I have mentioned previously when she first implemented her open door policy, a lot of Germany was in uproar about it, ..the difference now being there is no real control on the European shores,or seemingly willingness to stop the boats, despite millions being thrown at France to ' aid the Gengarme in the difficulties of stopping them 'a case of get them out of here' . set them sail to the UK,and now the Labour party can see exactly what it is,and they ,like the Conservatives can't do a thing about it, only talk,no real solutions. All tosh of course. There is world wide issue with human migration, which needs a coordinated response. The EU have attempted to do so hias.org/news/eu-pact-migration-and-asylum-explained/Not saying this will work, as the author points out the majority of people who turn up at borders qualify for Asylum under international law. Same in the UK. Simplistic analysis and finger pointing does nothing to address the issues
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Post by francegas on Sept 7, 2024 11:38:01 GMT
So Labour remove the winter fuel allowance for millions of pensions, the rumour doing the rounds now is they are planning to remove the single person council tax allowance (something Angie did not deny when questioned on this subject) hitting again pensioners who are widows or widowers. Anyone else think Labour really hate pensioners? You seen the state of local authority finances? Well just maybe if Labour hadn't caved in to Union demands by giving inflation busting pay rises, maybe if they reduced the foreign aid budget to look after their own citizens and maybe if they did a u-turn on giving £10 Billion to other countries to assist with their climate change issues there would be more money available to local authorities and pensioners would not have to suffer.
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Post by oldie on Sept 7, 2024 13:07:16 GMT
You seen the state of local authority finances? Well just maybe if Labour hadn't caved in to Union demands by giving inflation busting pay rises, maybe if they reduced the foreign aid budget to look after their own citizens and maybe if they did a u-turn on giving £10 Billion to other countries to assist with their climate change issues there would be more money available to local authorities and pensioners would not have to suffer. And maybe, just maybe, if the Tories had not emasculated local authority funding after 2010 they wouldn't be in the state they are now. At the same time heaping more and more responsibility on them as a result of Tory policies. It beggars belief that you would seek to blame a government of two months for the current state of our nations finances.
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Post by francegas on Sept 7, 2024 16:50:00 GMT
Well just maybe if Labour hadn't caved in to Union demands by giving inflation busting pay rises, maybe if they reduced the foreign aid budget to look after their own citizens and maybe if they did a u-turn on giving £10 Billion to other countries to assist with their climate change issues there would be more money available to local authorities and pensioners would not have to suffer. And maybe, just maybe, if the Tories had not emasculated local authority funding after 2010 they wouldn't be in the state they are now. At the same time heaping more and more responsibility on them as a result of Tory policies. It beggars belief that you would seek to blame a government of two months for the current state of our nations finances. When did I say that. Labour would have been fully aware of the country's finances, after all isn't that the job of the shadow chancellor as she would have had full access to the books, so when they were voted in they had ample opportunity to have done what I said above. Instead they choose to punish the pensioners. Funny how you're happy to blame the Tories yet never once blamed Labour for the state of the finances in 2010 just quoting nothing to do with Labour it was a world wide issue.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 7, 2024 16:56:24 GMT
Ricky Jones,the Labour Councillor accused of encouraging people to riot has pleaded not guilty. He did'nt know that encouraging people to slit the throats of other people ( he made the appropriate hand gesture) was against the law. He's 57 years old. There's a film out that proves his guilt. The lawyer representing Jones has in his time represented a few absolute charmers,eg Anjem Choudary.
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Post by francegas on Sept 7, 2024 19:08:06 GMT
Ricky Jones,the Labour Councillor accused of encouraging people to riot has pleaded not guilty. He did'nt know that encouraging people to slit the throats of other people ( he made the appropriate hand gesture) was against the law. He's 57 years old. There's a film out that proves his guilt. The lawyer representing Jones has in his time represented a few absolute charmers,eg Anjem Choudary. So Jones' trial date is set for "January" which is a joke considering the number of people arrested for rioting, posting on Facebook etc have been before a judge and sentenced already.
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Post by oldie on Sept 7, 2024 20:01:16 GMT
And maybe, just maybe, if the Tories had not emasculated local authority funding after 2010 they wouldn't be in the state they are now. At the same time heaping more and more responsibility on them as a result of Tory policies. It beggars belief that you would seek to blame a government of two months for the current state of our nations finances. When did I say that. Labour would have been fully aware of the country's finances, after all isn't that the job of the shadow chancellor as she would have had full access to the books, so when they were voted in they had ample opportunity to have done what I said above. Instead they choose to punish the pensioners. Funny how you're happy to blame the Tories yet never once blamed Labour for the state of the finances in 2010 just quoting nothing to do with Labour it was a world wide issue. Funny Not only did austerity fatally undermine our GDP growth prospects post 2010, they nearly doubled our debt to gdp ratio pre pandemic and then just to rub salt into a gaping wound "The UK government's public sector finances for the first three months of the 2024/25 financial year were £3.2 billion worse than budgeted" 😱🤬
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Post by baselswh on Sept 7, 2024 21:00:21 GMT
The lawyer representing Jones has in his time represented a few absolute charmers,eg Anjem Choudary. So Jones' trial date is set for "January" which is a joke considering the number of people arrested for rioting, posting on Facebook etc have been before a judge and sentenced already. 2TK.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 8, 2024 16:01:13 GMT
So Jones' trial date is set for "January" which is a joke considering the number of people arrested for rioting, posting on Facebook etc have been before a judge and sentenced already. 2TK. As has been mentioned several times, it depends whether people plead guilty or not, whether they are dealt with quickly or it goes to trial....
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Post by icegas on Sept 8, 2024 22:50:11 GMT
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