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Post by oldie on Sept 25, 2024 7:41:22 GMT
Absolutely, just think he is on a wind up. It's just plain idiocy. He/She should be embarrassed but I doubt it.
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Post by ltdgas on Sept 25, 2024 7:43:23 GMT
Politics LIVE: Starmer faces being humiliated in vote as Labour Party revolts over Winter Fuel Payments
Just shops how out of touch the commies on here are , they think freezing old people to death is fine , good job not all commies have those views Hopefully a humiliating defeat for free gear keir & the commies on here 👍👍
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 25, 2024 7:44:16 GMT
Once again, why don't the UK look at the German model for the unemployed. If you lose your job for the first year of unemployment they will give you 70% of your previous wage. In year two of being unemployed it drops to 50%. Year three it's 30%. After three years it's nothing. Their thinking goes that one year should be long enough to find another job, so the 70% is designed so that people/families can still live normally ie. the kids can still go to music/dance lessons etc. After three years it's not exactly nothing but they stop paying you based on your last wage. Then you drop into the basic level of benefits, which is pretty low. PS - I may have got some of the percentages wrong (things change) but you get my drift.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 25, 2024 7:56:31 GMT
Once again, why don't the UK look at the German model for the unemployed. If you lose your job for the first year of unemployment they will give you 70% of your previous wage. In year two of being unemployed it drops to 50%. Year three it's 30%. After three years it's nothing. Their thinking goes that one year should be long enough to find another job, so the 70% is designed so that people/families can still live normally ie. the kids can still go to music/dance lessons etc. After three years it's not exactly nothing but they stop paying you based on your last wage. Then you drop into the basic level of benefits, which is pretty low. PS - I may have got some of the percentages wrong (things change) but you get my drift. In Switzerland it was much the same Nobby. Having a job for the same Company for 2 or more years,then legitimately leaving,you got 90% in first year and80% in second. I did'nt know this and had to finish my job ( Crohns,my specialist had advised I finish it a year before and he did the appropriate sick note ). Quite the surprise the money I recieved. What it did encourage was people would do 2 years and then take 2 years off.Not quite what the Government was hoping for. I knew someone that did just that.
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Post by ltdgas on Sept 25, 2024 7:57:04 GMT
Absolutely, just think he is on a wind up. It's just plain idiocy. He/She should be embarrassed but I doubt it. You couldn’t make it up , the terroist sympathiser who has been banned 2 times off this board for the garbage he posts , telling me who’s never been banned I should be embarrassed by my postings 😂😂😂😂 Go and get your own house in order before you attempt to tell me what to do / post Another commieswho couldn’t wait to pile in on the tories , but roar there eyes out when the s**t show with the commies gets showed up
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Post by ltdgas on Sept 25, 2024 8:03:13 GMT
Starmer defends countryside-trashing pylon plan - 'We need more!' Hopefully sticks some in these champagne commies on here’s gardens , make my day
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Post by oldie on Sept 25, 2024 8:06:32 GMT
Once again, why don't the UK look at the German model for the unemployed. If you lose your job for the first year of unemployment they will give you 70% of your previous wage. In year two of being unemployed it drops to 50%. Year three it's 30%. After three years it's nothing. Their thinking goes that one year should be long enough to find another job, so the 70% is designed so that people/families can still live normally ie. the kids can still go to music/dance lessons etc. After three years it's not exactly nothing but they stop paying you based on your last wage. Then you drop into the basic level of benefits, which is pretty low. PS - I may have got some of the percentages wrong (things change) but you get my drift. Yep, not much wrong with that, in principle. But, if the applicant is already on in work benefits, is that a real incentive? My feel is that we should stop looking just at income but also look at costs. Our housing market is a shambles and probably the cost of owning/renting a home causes a huge strain on personal budgets, in work. Out of work it is untenable and housing benefit payments and homelessness (in the worse case scenario) is costing a bloody fortune.
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Post by ltdgas on Sept 25, 2024 8:07:32 GMT
NHS doctors threaten to quit over Labour pension tax raid fears Senior GPs consider taking early retirement as Rachel Reeves’s Budget looms
😂😂😂, streeting 😂😂😂,
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Post by ltdgas on Sept 25, 2024 8:12:19 GMT
Labour's benefit clampdown: DWP officials set to have access to claimant bank accounts in a bid to stop welfare fraud 🙄🙄, disgusting, we will help the people on benifits , that’s what the commies said , yea by going through there bank accounts !!
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Post by oldie on Sept 25, 2024 8:21:11 GMT
Labour Government cabinet exposed. The Daily Express has discovered that in fact they are not human, but non binary Martians presenting as humanoids.
According to a certain member of this forum
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Post by baldrick on Sept 25, 2024 8:24:24 GMT
Benefit claimants should have to look for work - Starmer..by Chris Mason, Political editori.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/25/00/90059165-13888241-image-a-170_1727221256035.jpgKeir Starmer has said he believes that benefit claimants should be expected to look for work. He added that there would be "hard cases" and that the government and businesses should help those who may feel anxious about re-entering the workplace, but that the "basic proposition that you should look for work is right". The prime minister was speaking to the BBC's Today programme, following his party conference speech in which he said he wanted to "level" with the country about the "trade-offs" people would face. He told Labour activists: "If we want to maintain support for the welfare state, then we will legislate to stop benefit fraud, do everything we can to tackle worklessness." Following the speech, he was asked in an interview with the Today programme if he agreed with the proposition that virtually no-one should claim benefits without trying to get back to work. "The basic proposition that you should look for work is right," he replied. "People need to look for work, but they also need support. "That's why I've gone out to look at schemes where businesses are supporting people back into work from long-term sickness. "Quite often, I think what lies behind this is a fear for someone who's been on long term sickness that - 'can they get back into the workplace? Are they going to be able to cope? Is it all going to go hopelessly wrong?'" The inactivity rate - the number of people out of work and not looking for a job - surged during the Covid pandemic and has since remained at a persistently high level. Nearly 3 million people are out of work due to ill health, a 500,000 increase on 2019. The Office for Budget Responsibility says the cost of sickness and disability benefits will increase by £30bn in the next five years. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/24/23/90056177-13887943-Prime_Minister_Sir_Keir_Starmer_yesterday_promised_to_introduce_-a-7_1727217234507.jpgSpeaking to the BBC, the prime minister was also pressed on other trade-offs he listed in his speech including the argument that the public had to accept pylons if they wanted cheaper electricity. He said people with concerns should be listened to but added: "We want cheaper electricity, we need cheaper power, we can't pretend that can be done without the need for pylons above the ground. "Politics is about being honest with people, saying: 'If you want xyz then we are going to have to do the following things'." On illegal migration, Sir Keir said there was a backlog of tens of thousands of asylum seekers waiting to have their claim processed, while the government was paying for their accommodation. He accused the previous Conservative government of "pretending there's some magical way to wish away that number". He said his government would process the backlog and return those who had no right to be in the UK. "But I was being clear, if you have that process, there will be people who are processed, who then are able to claim asylum." Around 97,000 people claimed asylum in the year to the end of June 2024, with the largest number coming from Afghanistan. Other nationalities applying in large numbers include those from Iran, Pakistan, Vietnam, India, and Bangladesh. In the same year, 7,190 people who were not granted asylum were returned to their home country. Yep , forcing I’ll people back to work bt , but I’m sure the commies will be along soon to justify it , they applauded freezing old people to death , so this policy should be right down there alley 🙄🙄 Caring about other people, Ltdgas? Are you a closet socialist? 😘
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 25, 2024 8:24:39 GMT
Politics LIVE: Starmer faces being humiliated in vote as Labour Party revolts over Winter Fuel Payments Just shops how out of touch the commies on here are , they think freezing old people to death is fine , good job not all commies have those views Hopefully a humiliating defeat for free gear keir & the commies on here 👍👍 I'm really not sure what Labour are thinking on this. The amount of money saved is just miniscule yet the optics are hurting them badly and will continue to do so right up to the next election. For example they are spending 8 billion setting up this new GB Energy company. Over 12 billion committed to Public Sector pay rises with more to come. 8 billion given to African countries to help them with their drives towards Net Zero. On top of that Reeves is hinting that she will rip up her fiscal rules to borrow an additional 30 billion! There were boos in the audience at the Labour Conference when it was announced that the debate on the WFA would be moved from it's slot on Monday (full house) to virtually the last slot on the Tuesday, when most of the conference delegates had left for home! Obviously the Labour leadership did not want to hear any criticism from their own party. Plus, their paymasters, the Unions, have voted against scrapping the WFA. I'm struggling to understand why they are sticking to this policy so tightly. The suggestion by a Labour Minister last week that it was necessary to stop a run on the banks, plus Starmer pretty much repeating the same claim, is just pure fantasy. Do they seriously think that people believe nonsense like this? What they should do is announce that after 'looking at the books again' and following 'decisions they have already taken' it's possible to reinstate the WFA. Yes, they will take some flak for the u-turn, but it will be nothing compared to the years of bad press it will currently bring. Plus, it makes them look more human. Why they have to try to hide behind this "we are tough and making tough decisions" line is nonsense and grates with the public every time they come out with it. Scrapping the WFA was not a "tough decision", it was a a stupid one and their insistence on scrapping it is not only politically bad but makes them appear incompetent. Politics is about the optics. For example, the Transport Secretary Louise Haigh, who capitulated to the Unions over the Train Drivers settlement. She has just received a 'donation' of 10,000 quid from the Unions. Nothing wrong with that I hear you all say, but it doesn't look good does it. It stinks of corruption. Lord Ali provides Starmer and his wife with clothes, let's the Deputy PM Rayner use his apartment in New York for free, gives 14,000 quid to Bridget Phillipson (Secretary pf State for Education) to pay for her birthday party, and I have no doubts he has been spreading his cash on others in the Party details of which will surely leak out over time. He got a Pass to allow him into the HoC. Once again nothing wrong I hear you say, but once again it stinks of corruption. Starmer himself would not deport illegals to Rwanda because he deems Rwanda to be 'unsafe'. Yet he accepts Corporate Hospitality at Arsenal for free, when of the sleeves of the Arsenal players it says, "Visit Rwanda". With Rwanda sponsoring Arsenal? It doesn't look good does it. By the way, Sunak went to watch Southampton with just two security people sat next to him in the stands. No Corporate Box. You would have thought that with 14 years to prepare for government that they'd be clued up about how things work.
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 25, 2024 8:25:19 GMT
Britons 'tired of the liberal agenda' fleeing 'woke' UK for Russia as Putin welcomes them with open arms 😂😂😂, commies new immigration policy ?? 😂😂😂 Is that the new wording for "come and join our meat wagon parade" Continual vacancies
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 25, 2024 8:33:24 GMT
Once again, why don't the UK look at the German model for the unemployed. If you lose your job for the first year of unemployment they will give you 70% of your previous wage. In year two of being unemployed it drops to 50%. Year three it's 30%. After three years it's nothing. Their thinking goes that one year should be long enough to find another job, so the 70% is designed so that people/families can still live normally ie. the kids can still go to music/dance lessons etc. After three years it's not exactly nothing but they stop paying you based on your last wage. Then you drop into the basic level of benefits, which is pretty low. PS - I may have got some of the percentages wrong (things change) but you get my drift. In Switzerland it was much the same Nobby. Having a job for the same Company for 2 or more years,then legitimately leaving,you got 90% in first year and80% in second. I did'nt know this and had to finish my job ( Crohns,my specialist had advised I finish it a year before and he did the appropriate sick note ). Quite the surprise the money I recieved. What it did encourage was people would do 2 years and then take 2 years off.Not quite what the Government was hoping for. I knew someone that did just that. Son in law, has several times employed people who literally turn up for just 2 hours and leave, I've he took on, went to the local shop for morning break, he was also in there ,said hi! See you soon, workplace was just 1 mile away, she failed to return, she rang in to say she won't be returning!! All this is to prove they were in the search for employment,the excuse was . She didn't feel comfortable in the workplace ,so back to the benefits office to get her money,with proof she has attempted to achieve work
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Post by ltdgas on Sept 25, 2024 8:48:01 GMT
There is growing unease within the NHS about the government’s "broken" messaging, the BBC has learned. Senior sources in the health service have told the BBC they believe some of the claims have gone too far - and may result in patients being put off seeking help and causing lasting damage to staff morale. And they claim there mending the nhs 🙄🙄
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Post by ltdgas on Sept 25, 2024 9:07:19 GMT
Starmer took £20k for accommodation so son could sit GCSEs ‘undisturbed What a suprise not , beak yet again in the trough
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Post by ltdgas on Sept 25, 2024 9:20:54 GMT
I can just imagine the PMs to Ltdgas. 'Hi mate. We're all with you on the immigration stuff, 100%, but maybe we need to word these things a bit more carefully because we don't want the commies getting ideas that we're just kidding.' And the ones which Ltdgas doesn't get to see: 'Christ guys this ltd guy is out of control. He's going to make the rest of us look like idiots. Any ideas how to get him to tone it down?' PS these quotes are of course a work of fiction. Almost certainly. Before I start have you got your mates from gas s**t to hold your hands , if not I’m sure one of the commies on here will do Look like Idiots , you look like a bunch of hypocrites, can’t wait to have a pop at the tories , then try to shut down any negative stuff about your beloved commie party , as for the links arnt real , you’ll never find that out as you lot will never look for anything negative will you And what were your words Come on over to the other forum ( this one ) , we can change it , yes I remember !! You and your mates are pissed because I’m stopping you turning it into another commie cesspit Anyway enough for today , you’ll need to get a cuddle from your mates on gas s**t to make sure you’re ok . Nb from catching up on what’s happening on this forum you said to another poster come over to gass**t you’ll get a warm welcome , maybe you can have a word with stupid Stewart & get me in banned , I’d love to sample this war welcome , see you over there soon , you know your mission
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Post by oldie on Sept 25, 2024 9:21:56 GMT
Is there a competition this morning for the biggest torrent of meaningless posts?
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Post by baselswh on Sept 25, 2024 9:26:08 GMT
Is there a competition this morning for the biggest torrent of meaningless posts? Yes and you've just won 1st prize!
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Post by ltdgas on Sept 25, 2024 9:29:43 GMT
Growing unease in NHS about 'broken' messaging, BBC told Health Secretary Wes Streeting with a serious expression IMAGE SOURCE, GETTY IMAGES Image caption, Wes Streeting has declared the NHS "broken" Article information Author, Nick Triggle Role, Health correspondent Twitter, @nicktriggle 25 September 2024 There is growing unease within the NHS about the government’s "broken" messaging, the BBC has learned. Senior sources in the health service have told the BBC they believe some of the claims have gone too far - and may result in patients being put off seeking help and causing lasting damage to staff morale. When Wes Streeting was made health secretary in England, he declared the NHS "broken" - a phrase he and others in government have used repeatedly since. That has been followed up recently with claims cancer is a "death sentence" because of NHS failings, while maternity services "shame" the nation. But the government said it was important "to be honest" about the scale of the challenge. The revelations come ahead of Mr Streeting addressing the Labour Party conference in Liverpool later. The BBC has spoken to senior people in the health service as well as officials within NHS England. One hospital leader told the BBC: "We understand the politics of what the government is doing - they feel they need establish in the public’s mind what a difficult inheritance they have been given. "It's something the Tories did very effectively in 2010 and even back in 1979 over the winter of discontent. "But there's an increasing nervousness that if it continues much longer it could spook patients and make it really difficult to raise staff morale. Hope is important." 'Wrong tone' Similar views are being expressed privately at NHS England. Sources there said officials had made the government aware of its concerns about the messaging and is monitoring the impact it is having on patients coming forward for check-ups and appointments. "We are not seeing anything in the figures to suggest it's having an impact, but we are keeping a close eye on it," one source said. Another hospital leader said: "If the government isn’t careful it will cause lasting damage. Yes, we know there are many problems, but there is also lots of great care out there that is not being recognised. "We need to see a shift - the cancer death sentence phrasing strikes completely the wrong tone." The death sentence claim was made in a written response from government to a story covered by the BBC last week about the variation in waiting times by different cancers, and in the House of Commons by Streeting on 12 September, the day Lord Ara Darzi published his report into the state of the NHS. In both cases, it was suggested Lord Darzi’s report found cancer was "more likely to be a death sentence for NHS patients than those in other countries". Lord Darzi did not use the phrase death sentence in his report, although he did point out the UK had higher cancer mortality rates. Lord Darzi has been approached for comment, but is yet to respond. When asked for a response to the language, Cancer Research UK pointed the BBC to data showing that one in two people diagnosed with cancer now survive at least 10 years. Meanwhile, the phrase "national shame" was used by Mr Streeting in response to a report by the Care Quality Commission report last week, which found two in three maternity units were not safe enough. Sir Julian Hartley, of NHS Providers, which represents health leaders, said it was important to recognise what the NHS was doing well and the efforts of staff who were working "flat out". "There’s a lot to be proud of despite ongoing concerns and difficulties," he added. Sir Keir Starmer and Wes Streeting addressing NHS staff at University College London Hospital As I said ghastly , you’ll find all the links if you Want to , you don’t want to , or are you going to claim the bbc is not a reliable link 🙄🙄
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