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Post by baselswh on Jul 8, 2024 21:16:13 GMT
A JP Morgan internal report stated, Prince Andrew and Blairs adviser Peter Mandelson were particularly close to Epstein.
Starmer still gets advice from Mandelson, does'nt he?
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Post by oldie on Jul 8, 2024 21:28:15 GMT
A JP Morgan internal report stated, Prince Andrew and Blairs adviser Peter Mandelson were particularly close to Epstein. Starmer still gets advice from Mandelson, does'nt he? Jesus Christ |
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Post by baselswh on Jul 8, 2024 21:50:47 GMT
A JP Morgan internal report stated, Prince Andrew and Blairs adviser Peter Mandelson were particularly close to Epstein. Starmer still gets advice from Mandelson, does'nt he? Jesus Christ Forever blaspheming in response to my posts Oldie. Just putting it out there. Maybe it's old news,yesterdays papers and Mandelson is a proven good man,but does our PM still get advice from him? |
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Post by trymer on Jul 9, 2024 7:35:50 GMT
Well the people who committed the crimes were immigrants or the sons of immigrants so you cant ignore that immigration was a factor in the terrible events. I am glad that you condemn the terrorism committed in the name of Islam, I agree and I will go further and say that I condemn all terrorist bombings. But if anyone objected to our involvement in the Middle East, with all it's horror, it wouldn't matter if they were immigrants or not. They objected and that objection, in it's most extreme form, justified to them the most horrendous violence. The question I have always asked, in trying to understand such violence, was the violence perpetrated upon us in this country, worse than the violence we perpetrated upon them in theirs? The answer was never comfortable. The reality though is that the perpetrators were here by immigration,its a fact that cant be denied. The 'Blair wars' were wrong of course,dropping bombs and causing how many civilian casualties ? (we will never know how many) has no doubt made the survivors hate the West/Britain which is why I think that Blair should be put on trial for 'waging an aggressive war' he caused the problems and he should take the punishment...seeing justice done might lance the boil of hate. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 9, 2024 8:13:00 GMT
But if anyone objected to our involvement in the Middle East, with all it's horror, it wouldn't matter if they were immigrants or not. They objected and that objection, in it's most extreme form, justified to them the most horrendous violence. The question I have always asked, in trying to understand such violence, was the violence perpetrated upon us in this country, worse than the violence we perpetrated upon them in theirs? The answer was never comfortable. The reality though is that the perpetrators were here by immigration,its a fact that cant be denied. The 'Blair wars' were wrong of course,dropping bombs and causing how many civilian casualties ? (we will never know how many) has no doubt made the survivors hate the West/Britain which is why I think that Blair should be put on trial for 'waging an aggressive war' he caused the problems and he should take the punishment...seeing justice done might lance the boil of hate. The role of the west generally goes back a long way before the disastrous and illegal war in Iraq. This is a wonderful book, a recollection of life in Baghdad after the fall of the Ottoman empire. books.google.com/books/about/Farewell_Babylon.html?id=6XQBUoFwtLkC |
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Post by oldie on Jul 9, 2024 9:41:57 GMT
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 9, 2024 10:09:29 GMT
The reality though is that the perpetrators were here by immigration,its a fact that cant be denied. The 'Blair wars' were wrong of course,dropping bombs and causing how many civilian casualties ? (we will never know how many) has no doubt made the survivors hate the West/Britain which is why I think that Blair should be put on trial for 'waging an aggressive war' he caused the problems and he should take the punishment...seeing justice done might lance the boil of hate. The role of the west generally goes back a long way before the disastrous and illegal war in Iraq. This is a wonderful book, a recollection of life in Baghdad after the fall of the Ottoman empire. books.google.com/books/about/Farewell_Babylon.html?id=6XQBUoFwtLkCTo be fair, the whole world was a completely different place in the mid 19th Century !!!! |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 9, 2024 10:14:31 GMT
How is this possible with the "awful consequences of Brexit" ? "It is this work - and the promising prospects of a range of new cancer treatments as a result - which has attracted an international mix of major science investors, including the backer of Denmark’s Ozempic maker, Novo Holdings, UK-US life science investor Abingworth, British Patient Capital, Cancer Research Horizons and pharma giant Eli Lilly alongside VCs Brandon Capital, of Australia and London, and France’s Sofinnova." |
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Post by oldie on Jul 9, 2024 10:43:42 GMT
How is this possible with the "awful consequences of Brexit" ? "It is this work - and the promising prospects of a range of new cancer treatments as a result - which has attracted an international mix of major science investors, including the backer of Denmark’s Ozempic maker, Novo Holdings, UK-US life science investor Abingworth, British Patient Capital, Cancer Research Horizons and pharma giant Eli Lilly alongside VCs Brandon Capital, of Australia and London, and France’s Sofinnova." Despite, and contrary the general theme of attack on our excellent higher education establishments. Funded to no small degree by selling to overseas nationals. That's the point |
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Post by oldie on Jul 9, 2024 10:50:25 GMT
To be fair, the whole world was a completely different place in the mid 19th Century !!!! Ummm This happened around WW1 Between 1908 and 1922. When we were carving up the middle east with France. Good old Gertrude Bell |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 9, 2024 11:07:36 GMT
To be fair, the whole world was a completely different place in the mid 19th Century !!!! Ummm This happened around WW1 Between 1908 and 1922. When we were carving up the middle east with France. Good old Gertrude Bell But your link says, "In Farewell, Babylon, Naim Kattan takes readers into the heart of exotic mid-19th-century Baghdad's then-teeming Jewish community." |
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Post by oldie on Jul 9, 2024 11:27:05 GMT
Ummm This happened around WW1 Between 1908 and 1922. When we were carving up the middle east with France. Good old Gertrude Bell But your link says, "In Farewell, Babylon, Naim Kattan takes readers into the heart of exotic mid-19th-century Baghdad's then-teeming Jewish community." "Kattan takes us back to the Farhoud, the vicious pogrom which began on a hot night in May, 1941. British forces had beaten back German-backed Iraqi insurgents, but before they could enter the city, angry Bedouins swept in. “A wind of impunity was blowing…" As a young man by that stage. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2024 21:29:08 GMT
At last you’ve got the guts to come on here & say your piece to me instead of running to your commie mates with your back stabbing stories , I told you when I was only the other forum your a piece of s**t as are your mates , but instead of standing up & arguing al you gutless pieces of s**t could do was ban me Your f**king commie scum , and any time you want to discuss it tell me where you want to meet me at the mem , bring your mates along as well , there commie scum as well who need a good kicking , now f**k ofc back to your mates with your little stories , gutless w****r I say, old bean. I don't know there are too many 'commie scum' asides me, although I can't deny Rovers have a 'gutless wonder' or two, as I presume you wrote. Try to argue witfully, rather than just aggressively, old chap. Regards, Commie Scum |
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