US Elections 5th November

The arguments remain the same ice, regardless of who won the election. Trump being president doesn't disqualify him from being a fascist or racist or the son of god.
Let's see what he does, and whether he fulfills his promises, such as ending the war in Ukraine in a day. I'll give him a reasonable window of time, of which seems to be around a month or so according to some

Democrat voting figures:

2004 Kerry 59m
2008 Obama 69.5m
2012 Obama 65.9m
2020 Biden 81.3m
2024 Harris 66m

Draw your own conclusions from the 2020 figure.

Yep
It looks very much like the vote for Biden in 2020 was an anomaly, driven by people's disgust with Trump to get him out.

That constituency either sat on their hands or voted Trump this time around. It seems that the total popular vote for Trump was 72.5 million. In 2020 his vote count was 74.2 million. Do the maths.

Conclusion?

The uncommitted voting public sat on their hands.

See there it is again.

And I'm sorry but it does..

He WON this election out right,and by a HUGE landslide,and in every section - and this one couldn't be stolen.

In 2020 I knew it was stolen...but really didn't want to commit until seeing this week's result, as I try to base things on...LoGiC and the TrUtH. 🫨

But now seeing this result, those b'stards stole 2020 given how small the victory was then , and the proven events in voter fraud.

See its all about maths Pop up.. the US population spoke and voted against the radical left wing medias bulls**t, and propaganda - that it's uneducated zombies followers spread about Trump.

I'm sorry...If it walks like a duck...etc.

There has been NO PROOF that Trump is a racist, or a fascist.Its only based on what you lot have committed believe/hope that he is, based on a narrative that you have decided to follow, and s**t that you spread.

Trump was in office for FOUR years previously,and the world never ended...WW3 never started, nor did he grow a hitler tash!

I wont go into U.S national politics- like the strength of his economical history as you will not believe it, or will credit Obama...Just like anti Trumpers blame Trump on immigration in the USA today, and Ukraine and Israel etc..

The population of America spoke 2 days ago...

So are they all liars for believing in Trump not being a Nazi?

10 reasons why Trump won (or Harris lost). In no particular order. I'm sure there are others.
1. "It's the economy, stupid". Bit harsh, as economic indicators are pointing in the right direction. Most incumbent Governments will fall as people feel they are poorer. Largely due to the hysterical reaction to Covid 19, inflationary furlough schemes, the cost of living crisis, and the war in Ukraine.
2. Joe Biden. Already languishing behind in the polls, a toe curling debate with Trump saw him (and by extension the Democrats) lose all credibility.
3. Working class Americans felt listened to by the Republicans. Biden/Harris are perceived as part of the liberal elite and out of touch.
4. The Republicans are perceived as patriotic. The Democrats are perceived as internationalists. Americans are patriotic (rightly or wrongly). Go figure.
5. JD Vance. Great back story. Great orator. Future President? The sooner the better! If Vance had stood against Harris it would have been a total rout.
6. Immigration. At the risk of being sent to prison for 2 years. IMMIGRATION.
7. The witch hunt against Trump. A massive own goal for the Democrats. The frothing at the mouth left wingers pursued him relentlessly through the courts. And the effect of this? Trump was perceived as being victimised. He played the victim card. And it worked.
Oddly enough 'the right' pointed this out (well me & Nobby anyway). 'The left' didn't listen. Well done lefties. Now wipe that spittle from your chin.
8. The endorsements. Oh dear. Having relatively young people and inexperienced in business endorse the Democrats did not help. Just a bit embarrassing.
9. Harris adopted Biden's policies. Which she then couldn't explain. People voted for change. Could well be for the worse. Who knows?
10. Trump appears 'strong'. Harris appears 'weak'. Biden appeared to not know what day of the week it was.
Will Trump deliver? Probably not. A lot of his election promises are clearly ludicrous.
But he offered hope to the American electorate and they responded accordingly.
That's democracy.

No I am saying they sat on their hands in 2024. Trump's actual number of the popular vote declined from 2020. The Democratic vote precipitously. It's clear then that the 2020 Biden vote did not bleed over to Trump and did not vote to the same level for Harris.

So unless they all died, they sat on their hands.

I'm saying that the numbers are very suspicious.

I'm sure the constitution can be amended if necessary. At the moment they have to be a natural born citizen, which can include those born overseas to one or both American parents. It's not a term that is properly defined in the constitution but has been taken as meaning the above. But interpretations can change. Naturalised citizens cannot stand but it's not a leap of light years to allow that.

I'm not suggesting it will be changed. Just thought it's an interesting topic.

Trump is a servant to billionaires [including Musk] and corporate entities. With his success in both being elected and in both houses of Congress he will have a free hand. He owes people.

Trump has also stated  - In December 2022, while continuing to push the false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to widespread voter fraud, Trump suggested the "termination of all rules...even those found in the Constitution" was merited. 

Nothing is beyond possibility or probability now. He has a free hand.